Set for a 19:50 start at the SCG.
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Hopefully we play well enough that someone will want to post.
Reckon that jumper goes alright.
I think we can all agree that was a clear hitout to advantage to Cottrell.
I think we need to start making videos of the injustices against our players and the clear differences in how holding rules and infringements are applied and a please explain to the umpires.
WTF Charlie! Kicking into the man on the mark is a cardinal sin.
At this point, it looks we’re playing on more often than not.
My God the skill errors.
Kicking skills are deeeeeplorable
Fme we are killing the disposal efficiency AGAIN
Who is our skills coach 🤔
For all our effort and time in possession...3 points up. FAAARK
Not anymore
it's like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Funny how when we kicked it long to the talls we're just bombing it in and the ball is killed but when opposition does it gets marked
How many more easy goals is this team going to give away
Who is our skills coach 🤔
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Starts and ends with Voss
It's like as soon as a team get a run on, we go into our shells and crap ourselves.
It's like as soon as a team get a run on, we go into our shells and crap ourselves.
It's like as soon as a team get a run on, we go into our shells and crap ourselves.
You can say that again
And I did !
Can't fault the endeavour, but we just can't kick the ball!!!!
Can't fault the endeavour, but we just can't kick the ball!!!!
Yep - story of the season.
I’m guessing the Swans are playing extra defenders and relying on winning it on the ground and slingshotting.
The fumbling is dreadful. You'd swear they were trying to pick up a greasy pig.
I’m guessing the Swans are playing extra defenders and relying on winning it on the ground and slingshotting.
Well it's worked for everyone else so why not
Small mercies - we haven’t been blown out of the water (actually leading) and playing a team at our level, maybe even slightly worse.
Yay.
Swans are bringing the ball to ground and when they do you expect Durdin, Motlop and Owies to tackle and tackle hard - but they have yet to have a tackle
I thought the indigenous round was last round? Nice guernsey but prefer the dark navy blue jumper.
20 v 9 tackles. Swans intentions are clear.
I thought the indigenous round was last round? Nice guernsey but prefer the dark navy blue jumper.
It’s spread over 2 rounds.
we are fumbling like a team truly bereft of confidence
Where is Cripps, been invisible for weeks.
Back to turning no namers into superstars. It's like 2012 all over again
Corey Durdin -3 points at 1/4 time. Only stat is giving away a free kick.
Out for Fisher next week i think,
Blake's exactly what we don't have...breakaway pace out of stoppage
Hewitt has copped a 2nd big hit from the night.
Take the boy off.
Maybe Voss will ask to have his contract cancelled rather than having to put up with this rubbish.
Replace a severely underperforming Hewitt with a seriously underperforming Curnow. Woohoooo what a fecking fabulous MC we have, so inavitive, so radical.
Seasons over regardless of the result tonight. Do disappointing just inept.
Seasons over regardless of the result tonight. Do disappointing just inept.
Game is not even halfway through yet.
Season is not even halfway through yet.
FMD we have some sooky supporters at the moment.
De Koning palming straight to the opposition.
Lucky we have a genuine 2nd ruck though,
Harry FMD
Charlie FMD
Where would we be without Charlie?
Game is not even halfway through yet.
Season is not even halfway through yet.
FMD we have some sooky supporters at the moment.
Evidently we ar watching different games
Game is not even halfway through yet.
Season is not even halfway through yet.
FMD we have some sooky supporters at the moment.
No smoking just reality. We are absolutely zero chance of making any impact even if we fall into the finals. We have gone backwards from 2022.
Where would we be without Charlie?
I thought exactly the same.
Game is not even halfway through yet.
Season is not even halfway through yet.
FMD we have some sooky supporters at the moment.
Did you not just drop durden at quarter time? 😂😂
Watching Carlton should carry a health warning these days...
Does the face count as high fend off? Wait it's Buddy
No smoking just reality. We are absolutely zero chance of making any impact even if we fall into the finals. We have gone backwards from 2022.
If we have gone backwards so far. Thats fine.
There is more time left to go forwards this year, then the amount of time we have gone backwards.
Ergo, plenty of time to turn it around.
Foot skills and general kicking to our forward are about as bad as you will see.
Goals from pack marks snaps or fees. Rarely see just a nice lead up mark and goal
We’re not out of this by any means, but by God, if there’s an official list for finding the most difficult way of doing something, we must use this as the basis for our game plan. Nothing looks clean or easy.
Those "sooky" supporters have been the ones who have emotionally given everything to this club and they deserve a lot better than the utter dog cr@p this club is serving up on field at the moment.
Did you not just drop durden at quarter time? 😂😂
I tried to drop him last week.
He isn't right at the moment, he was carrying something last week.
Don't pick injured players!
Those "sooky" supporters have been the ones who have emotionally given everything to this club and they deserve a lot better than the utter dog cr@p this club is serving up on field at the moment.
This 'Dog crap' has us 2 point behind.
Imagine if we actually improve 10% from here. It will be a 6 goal win.
So glad i refused getting a membership. Pack of frauds. Joke.
This 'Dog crap' has us 2 point behind.
Imagine if we actually improve 10% from here. It will be a 6 goal win.
Not everyone sees everything from a glass half full. What if they improve 10% they win by 10 goals.
If we have gone backwards so far. Thats fine.
There is more time left to go forwards this year, then the amount of time we have gone backwards.
Ergo, plenty of time to turn it around.
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Two games out of the eight after tonight. Remember last year? Our draw is worse and we had four more wins. Do the maths.
Not everyone sees everything from a glass half full. What if they improve 10% they win by 10 goals.
Remind me, where did this team finish last year?
So whats going on, Im out, are we still crap?
Charlie FMD
Seriously this ground is a joke. How small is it?
Can clearly see the difference of TDK to Pit around the ground.
No comparison
Where would we be without Cottrell
Where would we be without Cottrell
Been among our best IMO.
So now Charlie has developed a hook. It’s not hard, Charlie - just extend your right arm out to your right to straighten up.
3 more scoring shots.
7 points down.
Poor kicking is going to cost us again.
Cmon Durdin stick the tackle
So whats going on, Im out, are we still crap?
Yes we are but we're still in it, somehow
Stick your tackles!
Zero tackles inside 50.
Cripps FMD
Kicking for goal is another example of crap
Skills.
No excuses not luck just not skilled enough to be consistent.
Bottom 4 team this year
Goal kicking practice next week.....for everyone!
We kicked 1.4 that quarter including an OOF or 2? Seriously nothing has changed. Effort can't fault it but the skills are shizen beyond belief
Goal kicking practice next week.....for everyone!
They practice they are just not good enough. Simple as that. Their foot skills are just not there.
Seriously this ground is a joke. How small is it?
We've kicked how many ootf? 😮💨
They practice they are just not good enough. Simple as that. Their foot skills are just not there.
They don't practice enough. They are not allowed to. The S+C coaches don't want them to tear something by having too many shots on goal.
Dunstall has been banging on about this for years.
Lack of confidence is killing this team. They have the yips with almost every facet of the game.
Should be 4 goals up.......Francis on Curnow means we just have to kick it to Charlie because the former is a spud and cant go with him. Charlie should kick 5 plus after half time if we get him the ball.
Good game from Weitering this week, Heeney on the ball has been a bit of a nuisance, thought he might have played forward.
Whoever is on Wicks needs a kick up the Ar$e as well, just stay on your man and dont allow easy goals...
Lack of confidence is killing this team. They have the yips with almost every facet of the game.
Harrys confidence is zero.
Give him a week off. Play TDK as our FF/CHF. Can't do any worse.
I dont know what everyone else has seen, but I'm seeing lots of shirked contests, chases given up on, lots of long bomb kicking to nowhere, and a spectacular ability to make the easy look difficult.
Someone should be ironing out rowbottom too. Dirty prick.
Harrys confidence is zero.
Give him a week off. Play TDK as our FF/CHF. Can't do any worse.
Maybe. They just need a lick of the ice cream, some reward for effort. A win or two will work wonders IMO
We might be be trying harder tonight but really this is more of the same. Poor I50, missed goals and poor transition into defence. Another loss coming unless we can change this.
I dont know what everyone else has seen, but I'm seeing lots of shirked contests, chases given up on, lots of long bomb kicking to nowhere, and a spectacular ability to make the easy look difficult.
Thought the contesting has been alright but the Swans are playing that scrubby SCG style game that leads to a lot of errors and wild kicks from packs etc. Just need to clear out the forward line and leave Charlie alone with his man...
Boyd is giving us the run off the back line, makes a difference. Newman is fixing up Papley and Weiters is finding some form. Backs are having a crack! Just kick straight!!!
Lack of confidence is killing this team. They have the yips with almost every facet of the game.
So agree. We are so much better than Sydney talent wise but skills wise, at the moment, deplorable.
Now skills are bound to confidence so Vossy ffs please let the boys off the stupid handballing game plan and let them go for it!
The loping handball is banned, as of now.
Kicking in front of goal for a minor score or OOTF - not allowed.
I feel sorry for them. You cannot tell Me the players don’t have the skills, they wouldn’t be there if they didn’t (Altho Ed Curnow please do not kick again).
Coaches or skills coaches not coaching to the teams strengths. I’m still Team Voss but a problem has crept in that needs to be curtailed asap!
Maybe. They just need a lick of the ice cream, some reward for effort. A win or two will work wonders IMO
He doesn't want to have shots at goal though. He looks like he is crapting himself.
I don't think i've seen him smile in a month. He appears to be hating football right not.
Release the pressure. Give him a break.
Hayward, Wicks and Papley 7 tackles between them
Durdin, Owies, Motlop 1 tackle between them
In a half of football too - untenable
Aside the obvious goalkicking debacle. We need to win centre clearances. Oh and lay at least 1 tackle i50🙄
Sam Walsh crap
Half time stats....
Disposals +6
Kicks +6
Handballs -even
Inside 50s +3
Free kicks +4
Hitouts +4
Clearances -3
Contested possessions +15
Uncontested possessions -1
Turnovers -7 (we have had less turnovers!)
Marks + 16
Marks inside 50 + 3
Contested marks + 7
Disposal efficiency - 2.8%
DE I50 +16.4% :o
Tackles -8
1%ers -14
Difference?
Scoreboard
6.2 vs 4.8
Dumbest team in the comp.
No footy iq.
Aside the obvious goalkicking debacle. We need to win centre clearances. Oh and lay at least 1 tackle i50🙄
This is not a Disney film!
Dumbest team in the comp.
No footy iq.
Like porridge
Kemp doesn't like a contest
If we could stop ffinup so much we could win this
Kemp doesn't like a contest
Disagree.
Put his body on the line big time in the last quarter.
Got clear instructions to use the corridor more at half time.
Pit getting smashed against a back up
Ruck. Just have to try and get TDK going at least he contributes around the ground
Half time stats....
Disposals +6
Kicks +6
Handballs -even
Inside 50s +3
Free kicks +4
Hitouts +4
Clearances -3
Contested possessions +15
Uncontested possessions -1
Turnovers -7 (we have had less turnovers!)
Marks + 16
Marks inside 50 + 3
Contested marks + 7
Disposal efficiency - 2.8%
DE I50 +16.4% :o
Tackles -8
1%ers -14
Difference?
Scoreboard
6.2 vs 4.8
So the only stat that really counts is the scoreboard ;)
2 Coleman medalists against a small undersized defence and we just can’t isolate them.
Disgusting on all fronts.
Charlie FINALLY!
So the only stat that really counts is the scoreboard ;)
Its the easiest thing to fix too.
Thats why i don't get all the hate going on.
We are playing 'terrible'. like 'dog $h!t', [insert emotive response here]
In reality, its nothing more than a few straight kicks the difference,.
To paraphrase a line from Hardwick, “Carlton killing Carlton.”
Please Harry
FFS Harry....you can do this. Don't think about it, just kick it!!!!
Same problem with Harry - he left his left hand down near his knee which put him off balance and the foot naturally swings to the right to compensate. Extend the left arm Harry ::)
Late call by the ump there, but right call.
Harry does better with the snap.
He should nail this....if he hits the right side of the ball.
....but no.
My god
they make the most of their opportunities and we don't its as simple as that
We've been dominating the ball. Can't find the big sticks.
They get one shot at it and nail it.
Goal kicking!!!
This goal kicking is heartbreaking
Point, point, point, point, then they go forward and get a goal.
Disagree.
Put his body on the line big time in the last quarter.
go watch the game again and pay attention. I said he doesn't like a contest.
Most of our boys don't play physical. They almost avoid it. Our opponents bodyline the ball and are happy to take them out.
Shambles of a organisation. Finally after 8 years we improve then in a flash back to a fking mess
Swans are clearing the ball away too easily.
Small forwards are not getting to wear they need to be
and/or
We are simply too tall up forward and are done when the ball hits the ground.
Cripps doesn't look interested
McKay Curnow and TDK all crash into eachother for that marking attempt.
Not a small to be seen once it hits the deck.
McKay Curnow and TDK all crash into eachother for that marking attempt.
Not a small to be seen once it hits the deck.
That’s our game plan. Get the 3 talls to all contest against each other in a pack for the one ball!! No wonder we are a laughing stock.
You would think 8 years into a rebuild we may have worked that one out but nope. Just keep doing it week in week out.
Further to the half time stats. We kept the gap and closed the gap in all the right areas.
Pressure was up, tackles and 1%ers.
Even our DE% is in front.
Only difference, again, is kicking at goal.
Looks like another loss. We've busted our arses for 3 quarters to no avail. I can see us falling away from here to lose by 20 odd points.
We’ve already lost Hewett for next week’s game against Melbourne given the HIA protocol. Now we have to wait to see if the MRO will suspend Cerra for his tackle on Hickey. At least Hickey got up and played on, so we might dodge a bullet there.
Huge final quarter for the club
One quarter to show some ticker. How HUNGRY are we ???
We kill ourselves.
We are better than Syd. Why aren’t we playing like we are? So damn frustrating.
I think I’ll have to check out of the season if we don’t win today, I said we would be 6 goals. It’s painful for me to watch now, I feel sorry for them.
They are not dumb they are not unskilled etc etc -
I don’t know wtf is going on but it’s confidence.
As I said in another thread, in these situations it was P Cripps that got us over the line. He can’t do that anymore and we have no one else doing it - but it’s really just not real cohesion.
Oh and not being able to kick a f******* goal!
How badly does this team want it. We will soon find out.
Looks like we don't have an interchange
We just need to kick a flukey goal to get the monkey off our back
Newman gone, Hollands gone
Looking to the leaders to stand up.
Perhaps a bit ambitious belief ::)
Big arm wrestle going on now.
We need to kick the next one.
Start talks with Hardwick blues
Oh and Kennedy is off as well
Yep Shawny, Voss is kaputt, can't find the "on"'swich, but I doubt anyone can.
This list has killed another coach
Oh and Kennedy is off as well
Durdin not right either with a knee/leg
Down to half an interchange.
This is where the 2 rucks luxury hurts the most.
Sorry Kennedy is back!
McKay is shot.
Painful to watch this rubbish. Kicking into 50 is just so predicable and dumb yet it happens again and again and again.
I get our skills are bad but who do you blame for our decisions into 50. Is that the players or the game plan. If it’s the game plan then our coach has to go.
McKay is shot.
Season is shot
Coach is shot
Club is shot
Game over, season over
Painful to watch this rubbish. Kicking into 50 is just so predicable and dumb yet it happens again and again and again.
I get our skills are bad but who do you blame for our decisions into 50. Is that the players or the game plan. If it’s the game plan then our coach has to go.
You got a premiership coach in the other coaching box and opposition supporters complaining about the same dumb kicks inside 50.
This Sydney side is on it's knees and they still have us covered.
That was so predictable. Truly pathetic.
Game is not even halfway through yet.
Season is not even halfway through yet.
FMD we have some sooky supporters at the moment.
Point made. Wake up.
Cripps down is just the cherry on top.
Disgusted
And it's goodnight Vienna. That is all folks.
At least weitering has returned to form.
FFS stop kicking it to harry. He is a liability at the moment,
Just a dumb club really.
Devastated.
Done.
Dusted.
Sad.
The Ed curnow can play 200 games and still can’t kick really says it all.
Devastated.
Done.
Dusted.
Sad.
Ditto
If we were playing West Coast next week I wouldn't back us.
Ive watched the last bit fo the 3rd and 4th, shambolic is all I can say.
Bottom 4 team folks.
WC North Hawks then us. That’s where we are.
we could end up with Reid after all
Can't watch this side anymore I'm done folks
63 years a supporter and this me about done.
We will sack the coach. We will be Carlton.
The biggest disappointment to me is the lack of player development for the past 3 yr.
Big fail....
Enjoyed the site..
Anybody who backed us as favourites deserved to do their dough. So predictable.
So much hope this year, all gone to dust.
What a sad state of affairs.
+ 7 Inside 50's
6.15
1.6 for Curnow and McKay.
+ 7 Inside 50's
6.15
1.6 for Curnow and McKay.
why statistics are crap.
We never looked like winning that. Even when we scored they answered instantly
Move the discussion to the post game thread folks and we'll lock this one up.
If we had someone else you'd drop Harry, he is horrid at the moment. Game in the balance, missed easy goals (well they should be for a Coleman medalist) dropped an easy mark, just terrible.