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Could those with Italian backgrounds explain why Cincotta is pronounced Sin-COT-ta rather than Chin-COT-ta?

Of course, families are entitled to pronounce their surnames as they wish and those wishes should be respected. Oddly enough, Scott Camporeale seemed surprised to discover that in Italy his surname would be pronounced Cam-po-ree-ARL-ee. And of course some pronunciations are driven by the need to separate the name from English words, such as the surname Koch (pronounced David Cosh or the Coke brothers in the US). And then we have the 2 different ways of saying Fogarty.

Mav, if you're referring to the highlights package on the CFC website, I'd say those commentators simply don't know they're mispronouncing it. Hopefully "Chincotta" himself knows the right way.

Not always Pauly. Some Italians seem to be ashamed of their heritage and/or just dont give a crap about proper  pronunciation. Perfect example is Leigh Mon-tag-na  who went to great lengths to butcher it on purpose. Recently Josh Ro-shell-i's dad explained that the proper way is Ra-keh-leh but everyone uses Ro-shell-i. Only recent one who bothers to correct everyone is Chris Pet-truck-a. Even our former Formula 1 ace Danny Rick-ardo doesnt pronounce his name properly. As you will know, proper pronunciation is Rich-arrdo with an accent or role on the rr. I have been in Italy watching Italian F1 telecasts and they pronounce it properly thank god.

WASurfer, I agree Cincotta is a like-for-like replacement for Saad (or at least as close as we could find outside last week’s team), but that doesn’t mean he will inherit Saad’s role. I think the “next man up” philosophy has its limits and until Cincotta can prove himself in the seniors he won’t be treated as Saad Mk 2. Newman would now be the leader of the small/midsized defenders.

That leaves us with 2 tall defenders in Weets and Young, tallish defenders in Gov & Plowman/Kemp (or maybe even JSOS), Newman and Cowan. Cincotta may be the 7th defender. Much depends on what we do with Young and Weets. Having some height isn’t a bad thing as the Saints might throw Marshall forward and he’s not a bad forward. But if Membrey and Owen are their talls, what do we do with Weets and Young? Weets did say he’ll likely be on Membrey at some stage but he also said he prefers to play deeper and Membrey prefers to play as a link man and that’s not an ideal match up for him. He also noted Membrey has a good vertical jump and that seemed to concern him. Can Young play smaller on mobile forwards like Owen or does he need to play on a tall marking forward? In a recent game, Young had the fastest sprint for our boys: 33.7 km/h. Remember that Dustin Fletcher was very tall (198 cm) but he regularly played on small forwards such as Phil Matera and we all still have nightmares over the rundown tackle of Jeff Garlett to force a draw. Maybe he can do the same sort of job for us on a small who marks well above his head. The concern is whether he has the necessary agility.

Not always Pauly. Some Italians seem to be ashamed of their heritage and/or just dont give a crap about proper  pronunciation. Perfect example is Leigh Mon-tag-na  who went to great lengths to butcher it on purpose. Recently Josh Ro-shell-i's dad explained that the proper way is Ra-keh-leh but everyone uses Ro-shell-i. Only recent one who bothers to correct everyone is Chris Pet-truck-a. Even our former Formula 1 ace Danny Rick-ardo doesnt pronounce his name properly. As you will know, proper pronunciation is Rich-arrdo with an accent or role on the rr. I have been in Italy watching Italian F1 telecasts and they pronounce it properly thank god.

My wife got corrected on how to say her own surname at an Italian club once.

Chin-COT-ta