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Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #45 –
We switched the ball on 2 occasions when we had even numbers then switched back to the same side and kicked long to worse congestion than was there before.
We just have a lot of stupid players who don't know what to do.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #46 –
Need to try Dow and Fogarty in the forward line - these three amigos not very good.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #47 –
Quote from: pinot on
Talls and midfield had a good game. Ground ball players forward line and defence - couldnt put on score board pressure.
I know alot of blame is going to be put on players that missed shots on goal. But at least they are getting in positions to impact the scoreboard - its the players that are not getting in positions at all is the problem

Our midfield didn't have a good game.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #49 –
Quote from: LoveNavy on
Sad but true that 😔

We also haven't had a run with our best 22 for years now. Yet other teams repeatedly have healthy lists. Whilst many other issues need addressing, none will pay dividends without a healthy list. Continuously robbing Peter to pay Paul doesn't work.
Agree but we turn to a turd real fast when we lose key soldiers. Other teams like Essendon Saints pies etc seem to alter things they change their gameplan and even with players out those teams are still hard to beat.

We rely on individual brilliance with key players having massive games and that getting us over the line rather than an even spread who play smart to a style that gets the job done.

We have no system and no brand despite having a very strong list imo.

When was the last strong win without big games from our stars?

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #50 –
We won every stat convincingly except
I50s (-4)
Stoppage Clearnances (-4)
Tackles I50 (-2)

Disposals +86
Marks +39
Contested Marks +6
Contested Possession +20
Frees +6
HOs +6
Centre Clearances +4
And yet we lose by 4 goals. Two goals in an entire half of footy with a forward line consisting of the last two Coleman Medalists is an abomination.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #51 –
Quote from: pinot on
I thought they were terrific today. At their butal best.
Pinot, they had lots of possessions but they were ineffective or inefficient.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #52 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
We won every stat convincingly except
I50s (-4)
Stoppage Clearnances (-4)
Tackles I50 (-2)

Disposals +86
Marks +39
Contested Marks +6
Contested Possession +20
Frees +6
HOs +6
Centre Clearances +4
And yet we lose by 4 goals. Two goals in an entire half of footy with a forward line consisting of the last two Coleman Medalists is an abomination.


We got plenty of ball, just used it poorly. And I thought we got the rub of the green with a few soft frees. Just seem disconnected, unsure and scrubby at the moment.
 

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #53 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Pinot, they had lots of possessions but they were ineffective or inefficient.

Disagree - they were 77% efficient.  Thats very high. They beat up their opponent on the inside and outside.

They did their job.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #54 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
We switched the ball on 2 occasions when we had even numbers then switched back to the same side and kicked long to worse congestion than was there before.
We just have a lot of stupid players who don't know what to do.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #55 –
Quote from: pinot on
Disagree - they were 77% efficient.  Thats very high. They beat up their opponent on the inside and outside.

They did their job.
lol
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #56 –
Small forwards are no good I'm afraid and need to try some other players.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #57 –
Quote from: pinot on
Disagree - they were 77% efficient.  Thats very high. They beat up their opponent on the inside and outside.

They did their job.

No they didn’t. Which one of them pushed forward and slotted a goal at a crucial time?

We lose to these “St Kildas” every year because some unheralded up and comer with a bad haircut has a breakout game and kicks 3 or 4 goals which ultimately proves the difference.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #58 –
The switch plan is supposed to happen quickly. They were Constantly slowing it down - why?

The bomb into f50 is so consistently used that it doesn’t work. And we had no one at the fall. It was an extremely frustrating game to watch.

Read again what someone said earlier - this team consists of;

Reigning Brownlow medallist
Reigning Coleman medallist
Previous year Coleman medallist

Absolutely crapful display of coaching out there and skills from the boys also crapful.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #59 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
We switched the ball on 2 occasions when we had even numbers then switched back to the same side and kicked long to worse congestion than was there before.
We just have a lot of stupid players who don't know what to do.

Yep been saying it for years. We have the dumbest collection of footballers in the game.