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Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #60 –
Quote from: IvanAwfulbigone on
No they didn’t. Which one of them pushed forward and slotted a goal at a crucial time?

We lose to these “St Kildas” every year because some unheralded up and comer with a bad haircut has a breakout game and kicks 3 or 4 goals which ultimately proves the difference.

We will agree to disagree because in my view neither the midfield nor talls lost us the match its the quality of craft of small forwards. Cant win with 15 players on the field and these three amigos have had enough chances.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #61 –
Same old rubbish, hasn't changed in a generation. Nobody runs, nobody cares, can't kick to team mates, can't kick goals from in front, don't have any passion, don't have any thrills, nobody wants to kick goals, nobody has a red hot go, nobody takes on the game, nobody takes responsibility nobody cares so why should we. There was a story today about the breakdown in relations between SOS and Carlton. I don't care who is right or wrong but the self indulgence is mind blowing. It is typical of the culture that is at the Club. Individual first, team second or maybe third.
There is no game plan if you can't kick it to your team mates. Jack, Harry, Charlie and Cripps all missed goals they could have or could have kicked. Small forwards had chances to kick goals but turned back to hand the ball off, Players get the ball free in the middle of the ground and either have no one to kick it to, hold the ball up, go sideways or kick nowhere to no one.
Thank God Sayer's sacked the Coach and sacked the CEO otherwise we might be in trouble. This season has all the hallmarks of 2012.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #62 –
When you fall 4 goals short, shanking 4 set shots inside 50 and only kick 2 second half goals from plenty of chances, then to me, you can blame whatever you want, but converting cost us dearly because above the shoulders is important. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #63 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
When you fall 4 goals short, shanking 4 set shots inside 50 and only kick 2 second half goals from plenty of chances, then to me, you can blame whatever you want, but converting cost us dearly because above the shoulders is important. 

Yes, I agree. Scoreboard pressure always helps. Charlie 3.3, Jack 2.3, Harry 1.2, Cripps 2 behinds etc. Cripps' kicking was really improving over the last couple of years. Seems to have gone backwards a little.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #64 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Yes, I agree. Scoreboard pressure always helps. Charlie 3.3, Jack 2.3, Harry 1.2, Cripps 2 behinds etc. Cripps' kicking was really improving over the last couple of years. Seems to have gone backwards a little.
Cripps goal less for the season so far. He had 10 by rnd 6 last year.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #66 –
Stkilda had problems converting too, Membrey missed a few easy ones by his standards early and given the amount of ball we had we never generated enough shots on goal and it was our method more than bad goalkicking that let us down.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #67 –
Imagine if Tom Papley had managed to move to Carlton a few years back. Oh, what might have been …

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #68 –
Making the eight is a pipedream, we blew it last year.   Brownlow medallist, a host of blokes in AA form and they FORKED IT UP. Panicked when some smarts was required...and everyone thought we would just roll in the next year and make the eight.  What an effing joke of a "professional" sporting club.

I had reservations about Voss being appointed and I'm yet to be impressed.  Ticked off a club legend in the process and burned many bridges.

Funny how that bogus "review" tipped out a coach, yet the majority of the list survived and there were relatively few other changes about the club.  And real changes are required, ot shuffling the deck chairs.

Roll into '23 and have blokes looking disinterested, half fit or playing like their tiktok accounts matter more to them than the jumper.  If we were serious we'd drop at least four of these passengers but our MC lack the stones, and have done so for years. 

Our problems run deep.  Real deep.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #69 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Stkilda had problems converting too, Membrey missed a few easy ones by his standards early and given the amount of ball we had we never generated enough shots on goal and it was our method more than bad goalkicking that let us down.

thats fair EB1, but the complexities surrounding missing your chances might reverse the scoreline, and that's the important part.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #70 –
Quote from: pinot on
We will agree to disagree because in my view neither the midfield nor talls lost us the match its the quality of craft of small forwards. Cant win with 15 players on the field and these three amigos have had enough chances.

I definitely agree our small forwards don’t seem to have any sense of positioning, or ability to read the flight of the ball, or even that sense of urgency to pounce or apply pressure.
Keyboard warrior #24601

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #71 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
thats fair EB1, but the complexities surrounding missing your chances might reverse the scoreline, and that's the important part.
Thry..I agree that missed chances change momentum. Harrys misses and Butlers multiple goals changed the game for the worse and broke the game open.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #72 –
Just watched the Voss presser. Said Tom De Koning was ill earlier in the week and couldn't train.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #73 –
There is zero flair in this team.

Over coached?

I get Doch and Saad missing throws out the team but our game plan should still be doable no matter the personnel.

Let’s not forget we were holding on because Cripps was turning it on. Where t f is the rest of the team
Standing up?

Lots of 4-5 players standing around waiting for the ball to come out, mostly being intercepted by St kilda and run away with.

Re: AFL Rd 6 2023 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs St Kilda

Reply #74 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Just watched the Voss presser. Said Tom De Koning was ill earlier in the week and couldn't train.
Wouldnt have a made a difference if he'd played.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time