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Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #15
Disgraceful. Not good enough against half a team.
Thats the issue...the Swans had a half a team and nothing in the twos and we still couldnt get get over the line.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #16
June 18. 

On the 17th I take off for Europe. Lucky I won't be here for the guillotine.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #17
I like Vossy alot but he can't get this team playing and need to find someone that can. Gutted to say it actually.

Vossy and the players will be gutted as well, I get that - but we have been through this crap for literally years.

How many more first round picks does this club want to play finals?

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Reply #18
Time to break out the sacked,cracked, and backed list...you can add a section on list managers and assistant coaches....
The sacked list has been relative easy, there are a couple of surprising ones to some that I'd add to it but I won't mention names tonight as it will sound like being salty after another loss.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #19
I like Vossy alot but he can't get this team playing and need to find someone that can. Gutted to say it actually.

Vossy and the players will be gutted as well, I get that - but we have been through this crap for literally years.

How many more first round picks does this club want to play finals?

Reckon we have to do it different and stick with Voss and start looking at whats around him in terms of assistant coaches, footy managers and list managers. Hardwick had great support staff that helped save his job, they had Balme, got a decent recruiter in Hartley and had the right assistants, no more panic and sack the coach but Id be sacking some players at years end.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #20
Reckon we have to do it different and stick with Voss and start looking at whats around him in terms of assistant coaches, footy managers and list managers. Hardwick had great support staff that helped save his job, they had Balme, got a decent recruiter in Hartley and had the right assistants, no more panic and sack the coach but Id be sacking some players at years end.
100% EB, sack players not coaches.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #21
Yep.
I reckon it's time for some of the players to come under a bit of scrutiny.
Especially in that leadership role.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #22
Reckon we have to do it different and stick with Voss and start looking at whats around him in terms of assistant coaches, footy managers and list managers. Hardwick had great support staff that helped save his job, they had Balme, got a decent recruiter in Hartley and had the right assistants, no more panic and sack the coach but Id be sacking some players at years end.

Yeah tend to agree. But they have been playing so poorly for months now and it hasn't been rectified.


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Reply #23
In the ‘month ahead’ thread I said I’d be shocked to win all 4, not shocked to lose all 4, happy to win 2.

To me we relied too heavily on Cripps last year and built a team around him that did well - BUT it was always him that pulled us from the loss. Always. The man cannot always do that, not how he’s been bruised and battered. Reminder of C Judd not long ago.

Over it, I’m done, I am so sad. Really I love footy but I can’t watch our forwards kick anymore - my husband covers his eyes now too. That’s not how footy should be watched.


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Reply #24
We have no discernible onfield leaders. Zero.  

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Reply #25
Yep.
I reckon it's time for some of the players to come under a bit of scrutiny.
Especially in that leadership role.
Leadership is an interesting area, Id be getting someone like a Luke Hodge to do some work for us in that area, he probably wont leave his FT media work but Id be wanting him to mentor a few of our so called leaders and try and get some action happening in that area.

 

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #26
Shambles. Utter shambles.

It’s not so much the losing that bothers me it how far off we STILL look from being a decent team - we seriously play like a bottom tier team. Game plan is under 11s standard and foot skills are just woeful.

I had so much belief at the start of this year really thought we would comfortably play finals and do some serious damage in there.
This club is a laughing stock and to be perfectly honest I don’t even know how to begin to fix it.
Sounds crazy but won’t be long before we say this rebuild is running out of time as it usually takes several years of making finals before you may snare one.

The fact this group hasn’t played one final is amazing for all the wrong reasons. And year 8 is going to be another one with us sitting in the bottom half of the ladder.

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Reply #27
We simply have no game plan.  Disorganised, leaderless rabble, playing dumb football.

Time to turn this side on its head, give some of the performers in the 2s a crack, and see if we can salvage the ship before we sink to the bottom again.

We shouldn't be too surprised - this malaise started half-way through last season, and the damning fact is we have done next to nothing to turn it around.  We somehow thought that picking the same old faces in the same old positions would do the trick.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #28
We have no discernible onfield leaders. Zero.  
Leaders as in plural? Fark me gimme just one good one and Ill be happy. Folded like a deck of cards in less than 10 minutes.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #29
Leadership is an interesting area, Id be getting someone like a Luke Hodge to do some work for us in that area, he probably wont leave his FT media work but Id be wanting him to mentor a few of our so called leaders and try and get some action happening in that area.

It's certainly not something we can call on our own for...
I don't think we've had a good one for the last 20+ years.
Captain or leadership group.
Even Judd was more someone who just led by his own playing ability.
None of them have seemed too inspirational....and the coach/ captain relationship hasn't really seemed too strong with any, if rumours are correct.