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Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #30
Leadership is an interesting area, Id be getting someone like a Luke Hodge to do some work for us in that area, he probably wont leave his FT media work but Id be wanting him to mentor a few of our so called leaders and try and get some action happening in that area.
Do what Adelaide did, target a gun player and leader from another club and offer him the Captaincy.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #31
We simply have no game plan.  Disorganised, leaderless rabble, playing dumb football.

Time to turn this side on its head, give some of the performers in the 2s a crack, and see if we can salvage the ship before we sink to the bottom again.

We shouldn't be too surprised - this malaise started half-way through last season, and the damning fact is we have done next to nothing to turn it around.
I don't know what we can do to change things:
[1] our match committee still pick the same blokes, no matter how poorly they're playing.
[2] We don't make positional changes. if it doesn't work, we stick with it.
[3] We don't learn from the mistakes of the previous week.
[4] We don't take away the opposition's best players, we let them run into form.
[5] We're playing selfish football. Not enough effort to make our teammates look good.
[6] Our disposal has to be the worst in the competition. Even the Weagles, who put in no effort at all, can hit a target better than we can.
Honestly, I don't know what the coaching staff can do, because they don't try to logical things.
Live Long and Prosper!

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #32
Really is hard to believe that every individual at this once great club actually get paid for whatever it is they do. Players can't dispose of the ball to an AFL standard. "Coaches" cannot improve on the skills that said players are delivering. those same "coaches" can't formulate an effective game plan to suit the players. Administrators consistently fail on recruitment of players to fill deficiencies within our structure. They all just live inside the 4 walls with an oblivious attitude to those who are the heart and soul of a football club. The supporters. They get money to put us through this torture, year after year. Are they sadists or are we masochists or is it a combination of both? Anyway think I'll give this site a rest for a week as I'm rambling. I think I've lost my mind

 

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #33
De Koning is completely inept when it comes to marking.

He even juggled a freakin' chest of all things.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #34
I suggested we do it last week, i demand we do it this week.
Drop Harry.

He is a liability.

He is dropping marks. The ones he takes he can't kick. We are wasted our entries inside 50 going to him. He is useless once the ball hits the ground.
So why are we playing him??

Harry out. Bring back SOJ as 3rd tall and let TDK play from the square.

Cripps, i don't care what miracle you can perform during the week on that ankle. Have the week off champ. Bring Dow in.

Hewitt....will be forced to have a rest. Bring Ed in from the sub vest.

Newman....will be done with a hamstring....bring back Cincotta after his efforts in the 2's.

Hollands....will be an out. Bring back LOB

Durdin....needs a rest. Bring in Fisher and reward his effort in the 2's.

If Kennedy needs a rest, bring in Fogarty.

Give Cowan the sub vest.


OUT: Harry, Hollands, Hewitt, Durdin, Newman, Cripps, (Kennedy)
IN: SOJ, LOB, Ed, Fisher, Cincotta, Dow, (Fogarty)
SUB: Cowan.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #35
Do what Adelaide did, target a gun player and leader from another club and offer him the Captaincy.
We did it with Kernahan in 87. That seemed to work.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #36
It's certainly not something we can call on our own for...
I don't think we've had a good one for the last 20+ years.
Captain or leadership group.
Even Judd was more someone who just led by his own playing ability.
None of them have seemed too inspirational....and the coach/ captain relationship hasn't really seemed too strong with any, if rumours are correct.

Fair Points......Cripps form(excluding injury issues tonight) hasnt been great and his body language isnt right on the field.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #37
De Koning is completely inept when it comes to marking.

He even juggled a freakin' chest of all things.
TDK has played like a juvenile giraffe since day 1.  All arms and legs with little or no physical co-ordination.  I can't see that changing any time soon.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #38
Might be better to wait until tomorrow to comment further on this one.
It's getting late and the people are angry, my friends.

If the number of folks who are handing in their memberships tonight according to their social media posts then there will be no trouble getting a seat in the second half of the year.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #39
Reckon we have to do it different and stick with Voss and start looking at whats around him in terms of assistant coaches, footy managers and list managers.

The issue is EB who's responsible for our gameplan the constant bombing on top
of the head of our forwards and the lack of nous our forwards have regarding leading making space blocking etc seriously has doing my head in.

HTF is this still happening!!  8 years and still
no improvement at all. i watched this
part of the game very closely tonight andnim
notmkirdong lucky if we tries to spot up a target in F50 4-5 times the whole game. i mean how is this even possible at this standard. I watch local footy and that is much better organised going into the 50 then us.

So is it the players or coach thats responsible?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #40
For so many years, despite numerous senior coaches and assistant coaches,  we still have a team that looks like we have selected a group of players that have never met before to play in a scratch match.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #41
I suggested we do it last week, i demand we do it this week.
Drop Harry.

He is a liability.

He is dropping marks. The ones he takes he can't kick. We are wasted our entries inside 50 going to him. He is useless once the ball hits the ground.
So why are we playing him??

Harry out. Bring back SOJ as 3rd tall and let TDK play from the square.

Cripps, i don't care what miracle you can perform during the week on that ankle. Have the week off champ. Bring Dow in.

Hewitt....will be forced to have a rest. Bring Ed in from the sub vest.

Newman....will be done with a hamstring....bring back Cincotta after his efforts in the 2's.

Hollands....will be an out. Bring back LOB

Durdin....needs a rest. Bring in Fisher and reward his effort in the 2's.

If Kennedy needs a rest, bring in Fogarty.

Give Cowan the sub vest.


OUT: Harry, Hollands, Hewitt, Durdin, Newman, Cripps, (Kennedy)
IN: SOJ, LOB, Ed, Fisher, Cincotta, Dow, (Fogarty)
SUB: Cowan.
I suggested it weeks ago.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #42
The issue is EB who's responsible for our gameplan the constant bombing on top
of the head of our forwards and the lack of nous our forwards have regarding leading making space blocking etc seriously has doing my head in.

HTF is this still happening!!  8 years and still
no improvement at all. i watched this
part of the game very closely tonight andnim
notmkirdong lucky if we tries to spot up a target in F50 4-5 times the whole game. i mean how is this even possible at this standard. I watch local footy and that is much better organised going into the 50 then us.

So is it the players or coach thats responsible?
They went the bomb approach because the Swans had no talls down back...but the expectation was that Harry and Charlie might be able to get some through the big sticks and TDK might be able to make a few stick in his hands but alas no cigar on any of those expectations.

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #43
Shambles. Utter shambles.

It’s not so much the losing that bothers me it how far off we STILL look from being a decent team - we seriously play like a bottom tier team. Game plan is under 11s standard and foot skills are just woeful.

I had so much belief at the start of this year really thought we would comfortably play finals and do some serious damage in there.
This club is a laughing stock and to be perfectly honest I don’t even know how to begin to fix it.
Sounds crazy but won’t be long before we say this rebuild is running out of time as it usually takes several years of making finals before you may snare one.

The fact this group hasn’t played one final is amazing for all the wrong reasons. And year 8 is going to be another one with us sitting in the bottom half of the ladder.

Do we face reality and do the Honorable thing by players like Patrick Cripps? Do we offer to help them get to a club that could potentially win a premiership and know that we are going to take several more years to even compete against the best teams? Is that just admitting defeat, or finally accepting reality?

Patrick Cripps may never play in a premiership at Carlton. At this rate, he may only get a small taste of finals before his career ends. What about Sam Docherty? Same boat?

Re: AFL Rd 11 2023 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #44
Patrick Cripps may never play in a premiership at Carlton. At this rate, he may only get a small taste of finals before his career ends. What about Sam Docherty? Same boat?
Sam Docherty, what about Sam Walsh?? The way we're travelling I can't see him getting a taste either