Carlton Supporters Club

There are a few names that are royalty at Princes Park and the thought of SOJ running around in other colours doesn't thrill me what so ever. I'm still getting over Jezza and more recently Waite leaving us.
SOJ plays his best ball as the 3rd tall in the fwd line. And our fwd line operates better when he is there because he has to attract a decent backman. Running him around as a ruckman does his game no benefit.

For sure, running him around in the ruck was a terrible mistake. But even as a 3rd tall, he's struggled. We desperately need leg speed, everywhere... and Jack is just too slow and as an inside mid, you can get away with being slow, but nowhere else. He's probably our slowest forward, which gives his opponent the opportunity to run off him and create a forward entry.

Correct ........... if his name was Jack Shiitt we would be looking at him through a completely different lens.

For a slow fwd, he still takes alot of marks for set shots. Pity he misses more than he should.

That's Jack's main problem at the moment; if he had converted more of his opportunities, he'd probably still be in the 22.

For a slowish forward he still manages to catch opponents and, of our forwards, only Durdin and Motlop have stuck more tackles than Jack - not that I expect Harry and Charlie to focus on tackling.

Hope JSOS is the sub tonight. His last couple of weeks haven't been great but doubt there's many others who bust a gut like he does. Against the Dogs I think it was, took a couple of great contested marks in the backline early. He's a strong overhead mark for his size and if his kicking for goal was better, we'd be talking about him in a different light. Chases and tackles hard....sometimes the little things that go unnoticed. He's been asked to ruck undersized a lot in the last couple of seasons and without wanting to go down the whole ruck debate here, IMO that has worked against him. Personally, I'd rather have him as a permanent forward rather than the 3 smalls playing at the same time.

So he deserves credit for that, not just his surname.

Nobody has stated he's getting a gig was undeserved, but that doesn't take away from his recent ineffectiveness in some of the roles the club has asked him to do, it's not his fault, it's MC stupidity!

Fans calling for him to be 2nd ruck better hope they do not get what they are asking for, I've written it before and I'll write it again the ruck is prematurely ending his career and not through injury. If he is going to be purely judged in our playing him as a ruck it's slur on his good name, because despite all the good effort he brings he is not up to it!

He can be an effective HFF, Wing or perhaps even a tagger. All roles he has done well in, but in 2023 under the way the game is being adjudicated ruck is over as an option for him.

We(Carlton) hurt a lot of players by not managing them in a horses for coarses approach, in my opinion Scott at the Handbaggers are the best in the business at having the right player in the right role and managing them through the season. I hope Cook brings some of it and makes players understand they can't all be the big show!

You seem to think 2nd ruck is his primary focus. Its not.
He plays there for (at most) 1/4 of the game.

In a bad 1/4 of a game our day is often done, so I don't think we need to go further than that in analysis!

AFL is hard enough without given the opposition a 1/4 head start, regardless of whether it's the 1st-1/4 or the Last-1/4!

You do realise its for 5 minutes at a time, not an entire quarter block right.

I'm a bit vague, getting old, but was that 3 or 4 Filth goals in the 5 minutes while SoJ rucked?

It's absurd that you are prepared to surrender even 5 minutes to create a role for SoJ.

AFL isn't a charity, we don't want everyone to have a fair go, we want to dominate the opposition all day every day, not give them a holiday once a quarter!