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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #15
It is strange that Jamo and Carrazzo fronted the media and not Murphy.

Carrazzo was also the one trying to gee up his teammates ater half time.  

Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #16
It is strange that Jamo and Carrazzo fronted the media and not Murphy.

Carrazzo was also the one trying to gee up his teammates ater half time.
Was actually at the resumption of play after 3/4 time but in any case, the game was shot. The majority went into their shells and didn't raise a yelp in the last.
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #17
Murphy was supposed to be a guest on SEN this arvo with the OX. Anyone hear him?

Yes he was, usual tripe dished out though. All company lines blah blah. The worst thing is we face Melbourne this week where we will probably have a nice win and the club will paper over cracks again. I would rather another good team so we can really be exposed so we cant keep shovelling sh1te under the carpet.

Cheers thanks for that JC.
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #18
Nick Graham was on too. Said that MM wants him to be more attacking, get forward and kick goals. He tends to get caught being a kick behind the play.

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Reply #19

Seems most of the better footy brains in the commentator world agree that MM is the man for the job but are those around him? He finds himself in a similar situation to Roos... but about 10 years his junior. Seems the new Pres will have his work cut out for him. Hope he's ditched any rose coloured glasses and is ruthlessly objective about our list, coaching, dev and recruiting.

Geez mate, we need to be protecting the club from this guy, not letting him put more of his mates in place.

Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #20
Seems everyone has been out in force today on damage control duty.
If that's meant to calm the supporters it's a bit of a fail.
To me that just makes folk jittery and adds to the feeling of crisis.


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Reply #21
Seems everyone has been out in force today on damage control duty.
If that's meant to calm the supporters it's a bit of a fail.
To me that just makes folk jittery and adds to the feeling of crisis.

Absolutely, and it has the added benefit of treating supporters as fools.

Maybe someone should send Sticks and co a "Telegram" and clue them up on this new thing the kids are in to, it's called the internet and it has a bi product called social media. ::)
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #22
The club and it's various preprogrammed talking heads are only focused on one thing and that is selling memberships and hitting that magical 50k. It is blind to everything else and all actions are expedients designed to support that. If they ever realise that what supporters want to see is a base of a solid organisation with realistic strategies and action plans, plus the right people to execute those plans, then memberships will follow. They've got the cart before the horse IMO.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #23
The club and it's various preprogrammed talking heads are only focused on one thing and that is selling memberships and hitting that magical 50k. It is blind to everything else and all actions are expedients designed to support that. If they ever realise that what supporters want to see is a base of a solid organisation with realistic strategies and action plans, plus the right people to execute those plans, then memberships will follow. They've got the cart before the horse IMO.

I'd agree with that.
All the talk for the next week will be about redemption......... playing for the jumper, pride in performance, embarrassed by last week, un-Carlton like effort.
It's all designed to get folk to fall in behind the club rather than to question what's got us here in the first place.


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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #24
Geez I'll tell you what lucky we have Melbourne this week and not Freo in Freo or even Gold Coast up there. Could get ugly very quickly.
Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #25
The club and it's various preprogrammed talking heads are only focused on one thing and that is selling memberships and hitting that magical 50k. It is blind to everything else and all actions are expedients designed to support that. If they ever realise that what supporters want to see is a base of a solid organisation with realistic strategies and action plans, plus the right people to execute those plans, then memberships will follow. They've got the cart before the horse IMO.

Gee Biscuit Man that sounds like the Play Book from the Hawks! :o
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #26
Geez I'll tell you what lucky we have Melbourne this week and not Freo in Freo or even Gold Coast up there. Could get ugly very quickly.

Freo in Freo would be bad, but Gold Coast in Gold Coast are not the awesome force to be deeply concerned about yet.  They have a few missing this week, and it could have been the sort of team (if we had won) that would restore a bit of faith with supporters and had we lost the excuse would simply be about ability and talent rather than anything else.

Melbourne on the other hand is a bit of a lose lose for the club.  We should be expecting a win and in our current state, we may just snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Either way the club cant really win.  Beat Melbourne and thats what we should be doing.  Lose, and there will be a Lynch mob at visy park on monday.  I reckon we are quite scared about this game actually.

If it rains, beware...

The following week against the Doggies is as hairy and ask.  We start 0-5 and there will be all sorts of strife and heads will definately roll.
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #27
@Thry

a. We just bl00dy well have to win, that is an absolute given.

b. Just as importantly is the manner in which we win. If it is done well  and shows all the right attributes of character, then maybe we can start to look forward again with a minuscule scrap of positivity.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #28
@Thry

a. We just bl00dy well have to win, that is an absolute given.

b. Just as importantly is the manner in which we win. If it is done well  and shows all the right attributes of character, then maybe we can start to look forward again with a minuscule scrap of positivity.

Sums it up nicely. Pretty sure we will make a good account of ourselves.
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Re: "Carlton Must Voice Realistic Goals To Members" - (Patrick Smith) SEN

Reply #29
OK which one of you works for the Carlton marketing department?

Seriously, stuff we post here turns up on the Carlton website or in the newspapers faster than a story about a politician being proven right!

I mean a web page on the club website listing a summary of Carlton in the news after pages and pages on here calling for realism in club statements. Sorry Carlton FC, but you cannot win, and you have completely missed the point!

Tell us something the newspapers haven't told us already, tell us something real!
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