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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
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Strange move from Hinkley imo and I thought Wines contributed well early when not in the ruck but tired when he went in the ruck and that move helped us both in the ruck contests and around the clearances.
Yes, I suspect a few of Hinkley's players are underdone and/or carrying injuries, because I thought the same about some of Hinkley's weirdness and couldn't explain it! It's like they'd work hard to win momentum then just surrender it a moment later.

Almost the AFL equivalent of a game of checkers, not sure it was a great night for either coach, but our players were switched on and supreme.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 12 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Port Adelaide
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I have to laugh at LP’s fears about opposition rucks setting out to harm Harry.
Don't jinx us!

You often post about respecting opponents, then you lightly dismiss the opposition's prime battering ram.

BigH's main advantage is his mobility and acceleration for a player his size, a ruck injury could end all that.

If I'm not mistaken, BigH is a twin, and his twin brother Ben has already had two minor PCLs.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
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Fantasia was pretty good on Saturday.  He had some critical possessions deep in defence and his pass to Harry for a goal was outstanding.  He's still not hitting the scoreboard himself though.
I thought it was his best game for us so far, but off a low base.

Still very worried about his lack of physical contesting, for me it's not a game style that stands up in finals, you often see him lurking in the background at stoppages, rarely moves forward into the traffic, even when the ball spills in his direction he seems to back off waiting for it to be delivered.

I much prefer the likes of Acres, Cottrell even Owies, because even if they aren't able to break through at the stoppage they still have a go when they have to.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
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Hardwick did make one pertinent point; 131 tackles were laid for very few free kicks.  A lot of those tackles were relatively meaningless, repeat efforts in congestion, but more than a few should have been rewarded with holding the ball free kicks and some should have been punished for holding the man.
Coaches all want a different version of the rules, the version that favours the own game style, don't listen to coaches, listening to coaches is even worse than listening to the media.

Coaches won't even give a consistent interpretation at different ends of the ground!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Quote from: Thryleon on
There is no law stating the free kicks should even resemble even.  All it shows is a trend of how likely one team was to infringe vs another although you could argue how its possible that the team who had the lions share of the play, and won most of the ball, and had way more posessions and less tackles ended up with more free kicks against.
If umpires do what Hardwick suggests, blow the whistle early rewarding the tackler, then it must be the case frees are lopsided if possessions are lopsided.

What would you rather watch, blokes attacking the footy and being protected in doing so, or snipers hanging back and tackling after somebody else has done all the hard work to take possession of the footy?

Our game has a long history of rewarding the players who attack the footy, but it recent times it's flipped to be more rewarding for the sniper. I'm finding it difficult to watch, because blokes like Cripps and Walsh are basically held before they even take possession, then dumped if they win the footy. A bloke like Cripps who 9 out of 10 times takes front position at stoppages should be earning heaps of free kicks, he hardly gets any. Yet midgets who throw themselves into his shoulder get rewarded for high contact!

In the past good taggers would spoil, get a fist in the way and stop possession, now many are being coached to allow the opponents to collect the footy before wrapping them up in a tackle. It's deliberate tactic, not just to win the footy but to take an opponent out of the chain of play.

I want to see players side by side, toe to toe, focussed on winning the footy.

PS: Hardwick started all this moving the ball forward at any cost, the kicking in danger and the tackling and dumping of players, because he had a small fast on ball crew that could spread easily with just one extra number. It was easier for them to hunt the man than the ball, if they pick up the pill and get trapped on the inside they can't run and spread, so they hang back and snipe.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
There won't be much to come out of that umpire complaining, Hardwick's example was Charlie being spun in the tackle but the reality is Andrew didn't halt Charlie's movement or inhibit his disposal so the umpire is correct.

Despite an out of the box low free kick count there wasn't much obvious stuff missed, and I suspect the main complaint will be that all the subtle / borderline frees went GC's direction in the 1st half, but I didn't see any major clangers by the umpires for either side.

The problem as we all know it is that the umpiring is an interpretation that changes regularly, week to week month to month. Whether that is driven by the public, media or AFL opinion it doesn't matter. It's clearly not stable.

I'm against Hardwick's demand umpires blow the whistle sooner, he seems to think "We the public" want that as the default, which in effect encourages and rewards tacklers. But for me it's the exact opposite of what the general public want, we want the player hunting the ball rewarded, we do not want the sniper who sits off the contests and tackles rewarded.

Doc had some great stuff to say about umpiring on the Ben and Harry Podcast, he described how players are trained to compete around the queue based method umpires use to make decisions. But he said it's the one thing he would change if he could, he'd get rid of queue based umpiring.

Where does this concept of queue based decision making come from, it's probably a response to slow motion replays and broadcaster behaviour! It's interesting the media is pointing at the coaches today, and the media points at the umpires, and the media points at the AFL administration, but it's actually the media doing most of the driving.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: AI and creativity.
It's interesting to read the media picking up on the stupidity of AI responses.

At first the media tried the scare tactic, AI will become our overlord, then when the fear waned it was AI will be the cure all, and that's clearly not the case.

But now the media is going down the AI is stupid route, and that's never been or ever will be the case because AI is neither smart nor dumb.

As I mentioned right from the start, AI is only as good as the data you feed it on, and the real problem is humans are liars and bullcrap artists. The volume of bullsh1t drowns out the truth, and AI is learning from all the bullcrap people speak and write and it's learning that delivering stupid responses creates more clicks. AI learns from a feedback loop.

The problem has never been AI, and the problem has never been technology, the problem is always and will always be human.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
The folly of rucking BigH by default was exposed in the commentary when Brown started banging on about TDK going solo.

King rightly came in and described why solo rucking TDK is not sustainable season long, then there was a suggestion to ruck Charlie and King nearly fell out of his chair, and he describe why you don't ruck Charlie ever, and the same applies to overuse of BigH in the ruck, the risk is too high relative to the benefit.

The BigH to the ruck is an occasional pinch hit option, not a default tactic.

If our MC aren't smart enough to make use of Pitto and TDK sensibly, as required, we have an MC problem it's not the players.

Personally, I though the return of Saad and the front and square work of Williams made a huge difference yesterday, and off the back of Cripps and Walsh being dominant things might have got better if Witts had zero respite.

Williams is not scared to get at the feet of the marking contests and it makes a a huge difference. I also note once his confidence was up he got a few runs through the midfield and did well, his critics should take note.

I thought it's laughable that some have suggested GC were an easy kill, Miller, Rowell, Witts, Lukosius, King, Andrew, we destroyed the GC strengths, surely whoever suggested the easy kill was joking.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
I felt TDK as our solo ruck worked OK against Witts solo, whether it's TDK or Pitto solo against Witts making a difference I don't now, how long is a piece of string.

I also don't know what happens if we have both against a solo Witts, but I suspect when Pitto is in good form alongside TDK they make a very powerful combo, it's the same as what happened to Gawn. I doubt we'll overlook that opportunity when it presents.

I thought TDK / Witts broke about even today, with TDK having the general play and Witts having the stoppages, but Witts win was deconstructed by Cripps, Walsh and Hewett so that's a good outcome for us. However, with Cripps and Walsh playing like that I can't see things getting worse for us if we are stoppage dominant in the ruck.

Williams had significant game influence today, fans seem reluctant to give him credit where credit is due. For me his F50 success highlights a fundamental contributing cause of our failings over the last few weeks. How can it be a rookie SF like Williams gets in all the right spaces, while relatively more seasoned SFs like Fantasia, Owies and Durdin cannot?