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Title: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 16, 2016, 07:40:27 pm
The last game for the season for the NBs does not bode to be a good one. Willi killed us last time. And we will not be as strong with a few injuries.
Saturday 20th August at Ikon, at 1400 hours.

Edit: Sorry, this is the 2nd last game for the NBs. The last game will be next week at Windy Hill against the Drug Cheats.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 18, 2016, 08:41:40 pm
NORTHERN BLUES VS WILLIAMSTOWN
Saturday 20th August, 2016
IKON Park, 2:00 PM

NORTHERN BLUES

B: 4. S Russell 43. S White 34. J Glass-McCasker
HB: 33. D Thomas 50. B Jordan 38. B Gowers
C: 76. J Tutt 1. T Wilson 20. A Everitt
HF: 51. B Boekhorst 48. K Jaksch 49. D Armfield
F: 46. L Sumner 19. H McKay 23. H Kerbatieh
R: 36. C Wood 32. N Graham 37. T Jones
Int: 24. T Roos 21. C Barrett 22. D Aujla 12. Z Ballard 65. D Viojo 6. G Strachan 30. S Bolger 10. T Totevski 45. D Stevens 31. J Foster 35. K Declase 80. M Korcheck

23P: 40. M Blakey
    

WILLIAMSTOWN

B: 26. J Johnstone 31. D Fahey 7. N Sing
HB: 5. C Lockwood 8. P Faulks 17. J Charleston
C: 11. J Dorgan 4. B Jolley 24. W Wheeler
HF: 10. L Masters 3. S Dunell 14. A Siposs
F: 23. B Bese 36. T Davies 49. N Meese
R: 13. A Cordy 6. M Gibbons 15. B Bewley
Int: 2. D Conway 32. C Hislop 25. S Critchley 20. S Hetherington 18. J Greiser 27. J Chisari 33. T Currie 44. J Owen 

23P: 41. M Norton
 
No Smith? Well, he is probably gone anyway. No Gorringe? No idea what that means! Skittles on the bench? That bodes poorly for him.
To be honest, if we played at our best we could beat this lot. But we haven't and don't look like it. They killed us last time.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 18, 2016, 08:51:33 pm
BLUES VS WILLIAMSTOWN
Saturday 20th August, 2016
IKON Park, 11:00 AM
 
NORTHERN BLUES

B: 54. C McCabe 31. J Foster 35. K Declase
HB: 6. G Strachan 41. J Cripps 22. D Aujla
C: 65. D Viojo 24. T Roos 74. B Malual
HF: 12. Z Ballard 30. S Bolger 21. C Barrett
F: 5. J Cyster 29. B Casley 9. J Corboy
R: 80. M Korcheck 45. D Stevens 47. A Brown
Int: 82. D Iermano 64. L Jacques 53. H Payne 55. W Krithararis 73. A Aurrichio 68. M Maynard 13. C Adams 66. M Dawson 70. S Peet 77. L Hickey 84. M Vesnaver 78. M Walson 16. J Thorpe
    
WILLIAMSTOWN

B: 43. C Sullivan 45. L Carter 20. S Hetherington
HB: 12. L Griffiths 25. S Critchley 18. J Greiser
C: 27. J Chisari 21. A Anastasio 2. D Conway
HF: 47. L Schultz 33. T Currie 32. C Hislop
F: 35. B Myers 44. J Owen 40. B Monk
R: 37. T Curtis 30. A Carr 1. E Carr
Int: 46. J Burke 53. N Ebinger 48. T Condon 29. A Di Ciero 52. D Di Donato 54. J Eales 50. T Johnstone 42. J Maher 56. D Brumby
34. L McMahon 51. J Minogue
 
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 18, 2016, 08:58:42 pm
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Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: blueboys_1 on August 19, 2016, 09:12:22 pm
NORTHERN BLUES VS WILLIAMSTOWN
Saturday 20th August, 2016
IKON Park, 2:00 PM

NORTHERN BLUES

B: 4. S Russell 43. S White 34. J Glass-McCasker
HB: 33. D Thomas 50. B Jordan 38. B Gowers
C: 76. J Tutt 1. T Wilson 20. A Everitt
HF: 51. B Boekhorst 48. K Jaksch 49. D Armfield
F: 46. L Sumner 19. H McKay 23. H Kerbatieh
R: 36. C Wood 32. N Graham 37. T Jones
Int: 24. T Roos 21. C Barrett 22. D Aujla 12. Z Ballard 65. D Viojo 6. G Strachan 30. S Bolger 10. T Totevski 45. D Stevens 31. J Foster 35. K Declase 80. M Korcheck

23P: 40. M Blakey
    

WILLIAMSTOWN

B: 26. J Johnstone 31. D Fahey 7. N Sing
HB: 5. C Lockwood 8. P Faulks 17. J Charleston
C: 11. J Dorgan 4. B Jolley 24. W Wheeler
HF: 10. L Masters 3. S Dunell 14. A Siposs
F: 23. B Bese 36. T Davies 49. N Meese
R: 13. A Cordy 6. M Gibbons 15. B Bewley
Int: 2. D Conway 32. C Hislop 25. S Critchley 20. S Hetherington 18. J Greiser 27. J Chisari 33. T Currie 44. J Owen 

23P: 41. M Norton
 
No Smith? Well, he is probably gone anyway. No Gorringe? No idea what that means! Skittles on the bench? That bodes poorly for him.
To be honest, if we played at our best we could beat this lot. But we haven't and don't look like it. They killed us last time.

Gorringe is injured and will not play again this season. Hip issue as reported by McKay last week I think.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 20, 2016, 07:32:59 am
You are correct. I forgot all about it. "My bad".
I did not know that Lamb was injured, nor Smith, but neither is there.
We often keep an Emergency free in case of 'issues' coming up on Match Day, so probably 11 Carlton players will play.
Wish I was there to see it. 
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: ianh on August 20, 2016, 02:41:50 pm
Lost the development game by 8 pts.

seniors 7 up at QT but sadly Tim Totevski went down with his knee again and it didn't look good.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: ianh on August 20, 2016, 02:47:10 pm
QT  stats
GOALS: Wilson, Ballard, Strachan.
DISPOSALS: Tutt 7, Foster 6, Wilson 5, Boekhorst 5, Strachan 5 and Roos 5.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 20, 2016, 04:24:52 pm
Down 37 to 86 into the last
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Lods on August 20, 2016, 05:23:57 pm
Full time
Williamstown 13-20-98 def NB 6-7-43

GOALS: Wilson, Ballard, Strachan, Roos, Blakey, McKay
DISPOSALS: Tutt 32, Boekhorst 24, Wilson 21, Strachan 17, Jaksch 16, Jones 16
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Baggers on August 20, 2016, 05:34:28 pm
Would have loved to have been there but have been floored by this flu. Worst I've had in decades... it's a shocker.

Though when I look at the final scoreline maybe I didn't miss much! Looking forward to knowing more about the game..
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 20, 2016, 06:41:39 pm
AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues   3.1  3.2  9.7  10.10 (70)
Williamstown   2.6  6.13  7.14  10.18 (78)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Thorpe 2 Corboy 2 Peet 2 Droessler  Hickey  Krithararis  Stevens
Williamstown: Anastasio 2 Carr 2 Schultz  Conway  Griffiths  Owen  Condon  Monk

BEST:
Northern Blues: Peet Corboy Declase Stevens Hickey Brown
Williamstown: Myers Sullivan Carr Hislop Schultz Minogue

Peter Jackson VFL 2016
Northern Blues   3.4  3.5  5.7  6.7 (43)
Williamstown   2.2  8.8  11.11  13.20 (98)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Blakey  Wilson  Ballard  McKay  Roos  Strachan
Williamstown: Dunell 4 Hetherington 2 Davies 2 Norton  Chisari  Jolley  Gibbons  Dorgan

BEST:
Northern Blues: Tutt Strachan Blakey Wilson McKay Wood
Williamstown: Currie Dunell Gibbons Jolley Charleston Norton

Only 10 Blues out there today, suggesting that a few were kept for tomorrow: all 3 emergencies, in fact.
Interesting when Boekhorst got it 24 times. No mention of Jaksch either.

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Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: RiverRat on August 20, 2016, 06:56:20 pm
Would have loved to have been there but have been floored by this flu. Worst I've had in decades... it's a shocker.

Though when I look at the final scoreline maybe I didn't miss much! Looking forward to knowing more about the game..

The flu did you a favour. I didn't check out the pies but here is a review of the players.

No Everitt or Graham.

Tutt and Boekhorst were the standout Carlton players – they stood out because of their effort, their pace and their equally inept disposal skills.

I watched the game from behind the goals to get a closer look at the tall defenders and Harry McKay, who lacked touch but he consistently played in front so he was able to mark on the lead and whenever kicks fell short.  Unfortunately he never looked like taking a contested mark despite being in front of his shorter opponent who was able to out-position him or spoil from behind with too much ease. 

As far as the four tall defenders are concerned:
Foster was the most impressive because he was the only one who was able to stay with his opponent and consistently spoil in marking contests. His ball handling and disposal skills were also good. Showed enough to possibly get another year on the list.

Glass-McCasker moves well and seems to have good skills but lacked the presence to impact the game and was the least noticeable of the four when he was on the ground - I didn’t notice him after half time; was presumably injured.

Gowers played with intensity but without finesse and rookie listed players don’t often get more than 2 years - don’t let the gate hit you on the way out.

The most disappointing was Jaksch because more was expected of him. Despite some posters calling for his promotion, I have never been convinced but I thought he could be worth persevering with because he has decent straight-line speed and decent hands. After today, I would not be disappointed to see him let go. Of his 16 disposals, a significant number would have come after kicking to himself to play on after a behind and he nearly stuffed up one of those. For the most part he seemed to spend his time trying to arrange to be the loose man in defence so that he could have an opponent with whom he could possibly break even. Rarely have I seen a loose man fail to get to so many contests or fail to influence (or even touch the ball) on the occasions when he managed to get there in time. When he was required to man up on an opponent, he usually zoned off behind that opponent and then failed to get close enough to spoil (or even create) a marking contest unless the ball was kicked so high that his opponent became a sitting duck.

Korcheck and Wood were well handled and out-bodied by undersized former Bullants ruckman, Nick Meese. Wood is barely VFL standard these days (a massive drop off from last year) whilst Korcheck has yet to reach those lofty heights.

DVR flashed some nice skills from time to time in the midfield but so infrequently that his performance could be better described as a decent impression of the invisible man.

Of the VFL listed players, Kerbatieh did not impress. The better players were Strachan, Wilson, Roos, Aujla and Blakey (redhead from Northern Knights), who flashed some decent skills. Tim Totevski appeared to injure his knee seriously in the first term.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 20, 2016, 07:30:01 pm
@RR So it sounds like KJ and DVR added another few nails in their coffins.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 20, 2016, 08:00:54 pm
The flu did you a favour. I didn't check out the pies but here is a review of the players.

No Everitt or Graham.

Tutt and Boekhorst were the standout Carlton players – they stood out because of their effort, their pace and their equally inept disposal skills.

I watched the game from behind the goals to get a closer look at the tall defenders and Harry McKay, who lacked touch but he consistently played in front so he was able to mark on the lead and whenever kicks fell short.  Unfortunately he never looked like taking a contested mark despite being in front of his shorter opponent who was able to out-position him or spoil from behind with too much ease. 

As far as the four tall defenders are concerned:
Foster was the most impressive because he was the only one who was able to stay with his opponent and consistently spoil in marking contests. His ball handling and disposal skills were also good. Showed enough to possibly get another year on the list.

Glass-McCasker moves well and seems to have good skills but lacked the presence to impact the game and was the least noticeable of the four when he was on the ground - I didn’t notice him after half time; was presumably injured.

Gowers played with intensity but without finesse and rookie listed players don’t often get more than 2 years - don’t let the gate hit you on the way out.

The most disappointing was Jaksch because more was expected of him. Despite some posters calling for his promotion, I have never been convinced but I thought he could be worth persevering with because he has decent straight-line speed and decent hands. After today, I would not be disappointed to see him let go. Of his 16 disposals, a significant number would have come after kicking to himself to play on after a behind and he nearly stuffed up one of those. For the most part he seemed to spend his time trying to arrange to be the loose man in defence so that he could have an opponent with whom he could possibly break even. Rarely have I seen a loose man fail to get to so many contests or fail to influence (or even touch the ball) on the occasions when he managed to get there in time. When he was required to man up on an opponent, he usually zoned off behind that opponent and then failed to get close enough to spoil (or even create) a marking contest unless the ball was kicked so high that his opponent became a sitting duck.

Korcheck and Wood were well handled and out-bodied by undersized former Bullants ruckman, Nick Meese. Wood is barely VFL standard these days (a massive drop off from last year) whilst Korcheck has yet to reach those lofty heights.

DVR flashed some nice skills from time to time in the midfield but so infrequently that his performance could be better described as a decent impression of the invisible man.

Of the VFL listed players, Kerbatieh did not impress. The better players were Strachan, Wilson, Roos, Aujla and Blakey (redhead from Northern Knights), who flashed some decent skills. Tim Totevski appeared to injure his knee seriously in the first term.
Thanks for the report, RR. Pity it had to be so negative, but you can only call them as you see them and if you can only see faecal matter, then that's all you can comment on. :(
I really wonder what has happened to Wood this year. 2 years ago he DESERVED senior games: he tried in the ruck, he took marks and he made you notice him. Now about all you notice is the lack of those things. I cannot believe he now gets beaten by Nick Meese. :(
I am also sorry to read that Kerbatieh did nothing. I haven't given up on him yet, but he is another whose form has dropped significantly.
Honestly, I'd be as good value as some of these guys and I am still in hospital.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: chymb on August 20, 2016, 11:21:46 pm
I was there until part-way through the third and noticed KJ early because he did a couple of good things but then started noticing him for all the wrong reasons.
I though McKay looked a class above a couple of times but I have a tendency to dream ;D

Where was Whiley, Everitt, etc? Is it standard practice to end the season early for players unlikely to play in the seniors again?
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: jeza on August 21, 2016, 09:35:33 am
Difficult to judge too harshly guys playing in a team so undermanned.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 21, 2016, 09:47:58 am
Must have some impact on development when your listed players are playing with substandard VFL players.....we really need to bring in some better VFL types or get a stand alone team where we attract and pay up for better VFL players to support our listed players.
Whats Jordan Russell doing playing with the Bulldogs two's for example?...he should be with the NB's....
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: cookie2 on August 21, 2016, 10:41:04 am
Another factor may be that several of our list now have a pretty good idea that they won't be around next year so the motivation level would be flagging?
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Baggers on August 21, 2016, 10:56:19 am
Thank you for the ripper report, Ye Rat O' the River.

Now you know my secret! Look forward to the pies, enjoy the pies because the footy is likely to be pretty darn disappointing!



Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Shakin77 on August 22, 2016, 07:41:02 pm
Where is Clem Smith?
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: laj on August 22, 2016, 07:58:59 pm
@RR So it sounds like KJ and DVR added another few nails in their coffins.

Jaksch can't do much right. He's had a good VFL year kicked goals at one end, been good at the other end. Had a couple of games where he's kicked 4, two or three more where he's kicked 3. If that crap I really look forward to things when he comes good! No matter what he does, or has one below par game, seems he's always going to be no good. No matter his faults, an attitude may be one, no-one can say he hasn't shown a bit this year in the VFL.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: DJC on August 22, 2016, 08:45:28 pm
Jaksch can't do much right. He's had a good VFL year kicked goals at one end, been good at the other end. Had a couple of games where he's kicked 4, two or three more where he's kicked 3. If that crap I really look forward to things when he comes good! No matter what he does, or has one below par game, seems he's always going to be no good. No matter his faults, an attitude may be one, no-one can say he hasn't shown a bit this year in the VFL.

I can! Even though he hit the scoreboard in the game I saw, his performance was ordinary and he gave nowhere near the effort required of our senior players.  KJ needs to dominate at VFL level and he hasn't done that so far.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Pratty on August 23, 2016, 09:09:53 am
Must have some impact on development when your listed players are playing with substandard VFL players.....we really need to bring in some better VFL types or get a stand alone team where we attract and pay up for better VFL players to support our listed players.
Whats Jordan Russell doing playing with the Bulldogs two's for example?...he should be with the NB's....

Yep, agree. We've been down this road before haven't we elwood. You and I have spoken of this a number of times.

And, then you have the Pies stand alone VFL team on top and flag favourites. We need some more success at VFL level for sure, and the development of our younger guys to blossom a lot more than it has, or is. I look forward to more changes and development from the Club!
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: RiverRat on August 23, 2016, 05:59:57 pm
Jaksch can't do much right. He's had a good VFL year kicked goals at one end, been good at the other end. Had a couple of games where he's kicked 4, two or three more where he's kicked 3. If that crap I really look forward to things when he comes good! No matter what he does, or has one below par game, seems he's always going to be no good. No matter his faults, an attitude may be one, no-one can say he hasn't shown a bit this year in the VFL.

He has shown a little bit from time to time but has not improved noticeably since last year - has similar level of capability to Matthew Watson - more pace / less reliable disposal skills / able to hold an uncontested mark that falls into his hands / able to win a free kick if he ever gets in the front position / commonly has posters calling for him to get promoted on the back of not showing very much but because he might do better at the higher level.

Watto was retained on the list for several years because of his draft position and the hope, as a tall player, that he might develop with time; deja vu?
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: cookie2 on August 23, 2016, 06:11:05 pm
@RR
My take on Jaksch is similar. I think BB and SoS are very skeptical about his ability to make it at senior AFL level and he has a lot of work to do if he is to change that perception. It will be interesting to see if the club will allow him to serve out his contract.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Baggers on August 23, 2016, 06:22:09 pm
Yep, agree. We've been down this road before haven't we elwood. You and I have spoken of this a number of times.

And, then you have the Pies stand alone VFL team on top and flag favourites. We need some more success at VFL level for sure, and the development of our younger guys to blossom a lot more than it has, or is. I look forward to more changes and development from the Club!

x 2. A stand alone CFC 2nds just has to happen or more player resources be poured into the NBs. For a number of reasons our seconds are effectively a burden on the seniors. This summer we just have to recruit quality VFL players to help our kids/recovering seniors, not hinder them. The BB and other senior side coach's influence on the NBs was very evident early in the season and at times during the season (effort/intensity) but the lack of talent on the paddock (for whatever reason) finally wore everyone down.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: DJC on August 23, 2016, 06:50:21 pm
x 2. A stand alone CFC 2nds just has to happen or more player resources be poured into the NBs. For a number of reasons our seconds are effectively a burden on the seniors. This summer we just have to recruit quality VFL players to help our kids/recovering seniors, not hinder them. The BB and other senior side coach's influence on the NBs was very evident early in the season and at times during the season (effort/intensity) but the lack of talent on the paddock (for whatever reason) finally wore everyone down.

I'm not convinced that we need a stand alone team but we must have a core group of experienced, very good VFL standard players. 

I guess that one of the problems is being able to play AFL-listed players where and how they are expected to play at AFL level.  The VFL core group should include a couple of solid versatile midfielders and a bunch of blokes who are comfortable playing in defence or as a forward.  Someone mentioned Jordan Russell and I think that players of his ability and versatility would be ideal.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Gointocarlton on August 23, 2016, 07:16:39 pm
Someone mentioned Jordan Russell and I think that players of his ability and versatility would be ideal.
Being treated very well at the WBs and loves it there from what I have been told.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: spf on August 23, 2016, 07:23:14 pm
My take on it is that we should have an aim to supplement the AFL listed player with quality VFL regulars, with the aim of playing finals, and possibly winning it.

Players would develop together and hopefully have some measure of success, a lot easier when the team has a chance of winning.

Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Thryleon on August 23, 2016, 08:45:12 pm
Personally I'd like us to use the vfl for two reasons.

1. Development of our AFL level talent to help them learn what roles they need to be able to perform in the seniors.

2. Talent identification based on players who failed to get drafted.  Bring them into our vfl environment and if they show the right stuff get them to our club in future.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: DJC on August 24, 2016, 07:04:41 pm
Some interesting player assessments from the coach:

Quote

12. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 24 disposals, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances
From the coach: Blaine provided some really important offensive run and played a variety of roles. He had some really pleasing contests at different times but there were also some areas where he needs to improve, which he continues to work on.

31. Jayden Foster
Stats: 11 disposals, 5 marks
From the coach: In patches, he positioned himself and defended really well on his direct opponent. There were a few times he lost concentration and communication with the other defenders which caused him to be beaten on the lead.

34. Jesse Glass-McCasker
Stats: 6 disposals, 3 marks
From the coach: Similar to ‘Foz’, he had some good examples of defending well but wasn’t able to be consistent. He showed some pleasing aggression at different stages through his spoils and ability to impact in the air.

38. Bill Gowers
Stats: 12 disposals, 6 marks
From the coach: He provided some run and dash off half back and generally used it well. He needs to be diligent in staying engaged in his role as a defender when the ball is out of area.

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: He was down on what we’ve come to expect, where he misread the ball in flight and had a couple of poor aerial contests. He wasn’t able to reset on the day.

80. Matthew Korcheck
Stats: 2 disposals, 16 hitouts
From the coach: Korcheck competed admirably in the ruck against Meese but wasn’t able to impact as much as he has with follow-up and taking marks going forward. He’s still looking to add that part to his game more consistently.

19. Harry McKay
Stats: 9 disposals, 6 marks, 1 goal
From the coach: Harry showed some patches and took some really good learning out of the game as he builds fitness and form. I thought he took a step forward with his movement patterns and ability to get into marking positions and contest in the air.

76. Jason Tutt
Stats: 32 disposals, 6 marks, 6 inside 50s, 4 clearances
From the coach: He provided good run as he always does and found plenty of the ball, and also had some really important one-on-one contests. Later in the game that impact fell away in the contest but generally his effort was really strong.

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside 50s
From the coach: Dillon played as an inside midfielder and positioned himself well, but wasn’t quite able to impact the game by way of winning the ball. He showed some really good offensive running patterns at different stages forward of the ball.

36. Cameron Wood
Stats: 6 disposals, 4 tackles, 23 hitouts
From the coach: His effort was really strong in the first half and he competed well around the ground, but faded later in the game. He largely set the tone early for his on-ballers.

Apart from Boekhorst and McKay, who will still be around in 2017? 

I'd say Glass-McCasker, Gowers and Korchek.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Thryleon on August 24, 2016, 07:26:05 pm
It depends.

If our club sees enough they might persist with skittles.

I reckon two years isn't enough time for some play.

His second year was better than his first.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: DJC on August 24, 2016, 07:29:19 pm
It depends.

If our club sees enough they might persist with skittles.

I reckon two years isn't enough time for some play.

His second year was better than his first.

True Thry.  Skittles was playing some decent footy midway through the season.  I guess it will depend on whether SOS, Bolton and Fraser think that was his peak or whether he can improve on that and play consistently good footy.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: townsendcalling on August 24, 2016, 07:36:26 pm
48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: He was down on what we’ve come to expect, where he misread the ball in flight and had a couple of poor aerial contests. He wasn’t able to reset on the day.

Some on this site will read that as 'KJ had another good day for the NBs, must be due for a call up!!'
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: sandsmere on August 25, 2016, 06:46:33 am
According to the "other" forum, Jaksch is contracted in 2017, so will be staying.

Will need to pull the finger out though.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on August 25, 2016, 10:15:58 am
12. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 24 disposals, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances
From the coach: Blaine provided some really important offensive run and played a variety of roles. He had some really pleasing contests at different times but there were also some areas where he needs to improve, which he continues to work on.

Translation....Picks and chooses when he goes for the footy and isnt hard enough often enough...

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: He was down on what we’ve come to expect, where he misread the ball in flight and had a couple of poor aerial contests. He wasn’t able to reset on the day.

Translation: Didnt put the body on the line in the marking duels and pulled out of marking contests....I couldnt get him to play in front and take a hit for the team.his heart isnt in it..

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside 50s
From the coach: Dillon played as an inside midfielder and positioned himself well, but wasn’t quite able to impact the game by way of winning the ball. He showed some really good offensive running patterns at different stages forward of the ball.

Translation: Looks good when he gets it but doesnt win enough footy, worked hard running forward.....forget to say he did nothing the other way...

38. Bill Gowers
Stats: 12 disposals, 6 marks
From the coach: He provided some run and dash off half back and generally used it well. He needs to be diligent in staying engaged in his role as a defender when the ball is out of area.

Got the tools to be a good player but has been watching  too much of Zac Touhy and thinks he doesnt need to mind a man....
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: crashlander on August 25, 2016, 04:01:19 pm
12. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 24 disposals, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances
From the coach: Blaine provided some really important offensive run and played a variety of roles. He had some really pleasing contests at different times but there were also some areas where he needs to improve, which he continues to work on.

Translation....Picks and chooses when he goes for the footy and isnt hard enough often enough...

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: He was down on what we’ve come to expect, where he misread the ball in flight and had a couple of poor aerial contests. He wasn’t able to reset on the day.

Translation: Didnt put the body on the line in the marking duels and pulled out of marking contests....I couldnt get him to play in front and take a hit for the team.his heart isnt in it..

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside 50s
From the coach: Dillon played as an inside midfielder and positioned himself well, but wasn’t quite able to impact the game by way of winning the ball. He showed some really good offensive running patterns at different stages forward of the ball.

Translation: Looks good when he gets it but doesnt win enough footy, worked hard running forward.....forget to say he did nothing the other way...

38. Bill Gowers
Stats: 12 disposals, 6 marks
From the coach: He provided some run and dash off half back and generally used it well. He needs to be diligent in staying engaged in his role as a defender when the ball is out of area.

Got the tools to be a good player but has been watching  too much of Zac Touhy and thinks he doesnt need to mind a man....
God, I wish those comments were not so close to the mark. Nice translations.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: PaulP on August 25, 2016, 04:02:25 pm
God, I wish those comments were not so close to the mark. Nice translations.

Agree.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: Baggers on August 25, 2016, 05:31:23 pm
Pretty good stuff, EB1.
Title: Re: VFL Round 20: Northern Blues vs Williamstown
Post by: RiverRat on August 25, 2016, 06:24:47 pm
12. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 24 disposals, 8 inside 50s, 6 clearances
From the coach: Blaine provided some really important offensive run and played a variety of roles. He had some really pleasing contests at different times but there were also some areas where he needs to improve, which he continues to work on.

Translation....Picks and chooses when he goes for the footy and isnt hard enough often enough... and can't hit a target to save himself.

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: He was down on what we’ve come to expect, where he misread the ball in flight and had a couple of poor aerial contests. He wasn’t able to reset on the day.

Translation: Didnt put the body on the line in the marking duels and pulled out of marking contests....I couldnt get him to play in front and take a hit for the team.his heart isnt in it.. Actually failed to get to many marking contests and his stats flatter him because he padded them by playing on when taking the kick-in after a behind was scored.

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 3 inside 50s
From the coach: Dillon played as an inside midfielder and positioned himself well, but wasn’t quite able to impact the game by way of winning the ball. He showed some really good offensive running patterns at different stages forward of the ball.

Translation: Looks good when he gets it but doesnt win enough footy, worked hard running forward.....forget to say he did nothing the other way... Didn't work that hard running forward.

38. Bill Gowers
Stats: 12 disposals, 6 marks
From the coach: He provided some run and dash off half back and generally used it well. He needs to be diligent in staying engaged in his role as a defender when the ball is out of area.

Got the tools to be a good player but has been watching  too much of Zac Touhy and thinks he doesnt need to mind a man.... Only goes hard at it and lacks different speed settings - Tom Bell tendencies.