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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)
There are players from that draft still playing top football, Burgoyne played in a premiership side last year and Thompson won Adelaide's B&F and has been AA, we would have killed for Drew Petrie or Ted Richards at any time in the last 10 years.
The only current ten year players we have drafted are Simmo and Walks, the rest have disappeared without a trace.
We might have finally got one right with Cripps but I'm not convinced that trading pick 7 for Jacksch was good value, time will tell.
I reckon that's where our rebuild fell over.  Too much reliance on too few.

These days you need a good team with depth, not a few stars with a cast of triers.

St Kilda are the last side I can think of that went the latter and ironically were beaten to a flag by two teams that chose the former.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)
There's no point going over it, what's done is done and neither of us will change our mind.
I remember going to a game when Pagan was coach, there were 16,000 of us hardy souls at the MCG to watch us line up Ian Prendergast against Matthew Pavlich, Pavlich kicked 3 in the first 10 minutes and ended up with 9.
That was fun, but I didn't blame Pagan when we lost the match.

Agreed, and the biggest problem about sacking Pagan was the cultural issue of the tail wagging the dog.

Bryce Gibbs learnt that lesson well it seems.

Has repeated it twice and seems to be teaching his mates too.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton pasted by Pies (Post Game)
Firstly, I'd like to give kudos to Rowe, Touhy, Simmo, Docherty, Judd, Murph and especially Armfield for trying!!!!!

Thats 7 players out of 22 who had a crack. Thats woeful and our biggest problem. Too little from too few.
The pies had 3 players who didnt have double figure stats FFS. That is team footy as opposed to our crap. 

For mine, I'd like to send a message to the group by dropping Walker and Gibbs. Gibbs may as well have had a black and white jumper on and walker was mr invisible for the night.

Warnock tried and probably played his best game for us in the end. Even managed to bend down and pick up the ball too!! Was crape in 1st half but busted his butt in 2nd half. decision to play him ahead of Cas as still a mistake IMO.

We were deplorable. I dont know where to go from here. What has changed from last year for us to get worse?????
You missed Cameron Wood too.

Sums it up, a bloke who was discarded and unwanted in the VFL was one of our better players tonight along with another discard who was playing in the Sanfl.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Round 5 preview Carlton v Collingwood
In the form he is in, Id be leaving him in the team until such point that he significantly misfires.

28, might net us a decent trade or even might end up on the market via free agency.  Either will get us decent compensation.

HAVE to shop him around, particularly whilst he challenges the younger more able bodies to beat him to a game.