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I'm really worried about McGovern. When I go to games I like to pick a player and focus on him. Today was McGovern. I know he did his ankle in the last quarter, but up until then he was genuinely aweful. His workrate off the ball was terrible. He just doesn't work hard at all whne the opppostion have the ball, and they looked they they were specifically working the ball through the area that he was defending because they knew he wouldn't do anything to stop them moving the ball through that part of the ground. Very concerning

I'm really worried about McGovern. When I go to games I like to pick a player and focus on him. Today was McGovern. I know he did his ankle in the last quarter, but up until then he was genuinely aweful. His workrate off the ball was terrible. He just doesn't work hard at all whne the opppostion have the ball, and they looked they they were specifically working the ball through the area that he was defending because they knew he wouldn't do anything to stop them moving the ball through that part of the ground. Very concerning

Fair observation, ok our forward entries dont help but he hasnt worked hard enough IMO and been disappointing.
Bit harder to get a kick with us than the Crows and his work rate hasnt adjusted.
I'm not sold on McGovern, Harry and Charlie all being down forward every game, we always look congested, top heavy and they struggle to find space.
We badly lack that class mid sized finisher with some X factor like a Chad Wingard(when in form) or Jayden Stephenson who has that raw pace and happy knack of finding the ball
near goal.

You're looking at specifics EB, that's too miss the point.

Why so many of our lot looking listless, disinterested and playing accordingly?

You do the above when you are used to losing and motivation falls away, we got off to a good start
on the back of Cripps then they got in front and some of our blokes thought close enough is good enough
and yep thats a coaching issue.
I only commented on McGovern because Jack raised his name but we didnt have any real winners today and only a few break evens.
Kerr, Deluca(if drafted) in this week....
I'd be trying positional changes too...Newman on a wing, Kennedy half back flank etc etc

We simply need time.

Time for our youngsters to truly grow into their bodies.

Time played together to know each others strengths and weaknesses.

Time for our youngsters to become seasoned competitors.

Time for them to build belief in their abilities.

Time playing to the same game plan so the kids know what to do on game day.

Time doing it so they can learn when to stick to the plan and when to deviate.



I'm firmly of the belief that our coaches know more about the game than we do, and that where we see a player taking us apart and we wonder why he isnt being tagged, our coaches are wondering where his opponent is, and why he's let him run free.

Ever wondered why we constantly seem out numbered?  The answer is simple.  Too many aren't working up and down hard enough for long enough.

People are seeing it now....MacGovern is either a bludger,  or he conserves energy by not putting in,  which suggests no tank.  So hard questions need to be asked. He certainly isn't earning his cheque.

Never been sold on him either,  only ever plays five minutes a game,  then isn't sighted.   But he has a lot if mates in that regard.

Time is the key.
The way this rebuild was structured injected an element of 'time' that gave an extra period for developing the list that would not usually have been sustainable.
That reduced the normal pressures on administration, list managers and coaches.
They were given longer than others in the past.
Very smart, very well sold.
But time can also be very fickle and there comes a point when it no longer works in your favour and counts against you (It's taking too long, You've had enough time.)


The longer it then takes the greater the pressure grows.
It grows quickly once it really starts to impact.
And the greater the pressure grows the more likely there will be change.

While individual supporters may maintain a faith until the end, those with the actual responsibility for administering the process will be the ones under the pump.
If every one of these holds their nerve in two or three years time we may have a good mid-aged competitive list.
In fact I'm pretty certain we will anyway...the question is 'how good' and 'how sustainable'?
And to believe all the current personnel will still be in place in their current roles just seems unrealistic.

People are seeing it now....MacGovern is either a bludger,  or he conserves energy by not putting in,  which suggests no tank.  So hard questions need to be asked. He certainly isn't earning his cheque.

Never been sold on him either,  only ever plays five minutes a game,  then isn't sighted.   But he has a lot if mates in that regard.