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Robert Heatley Stand / Our "Line in the Sand" moment!
OK, the time is right.

No more, it can't be tolerated, it's time for our Line in the Sand game.

Quote from: wikipedia
Hawthorn players were allegedly directed at half time, by Club Director Dermott Brereton who played for the Hawks during the 1980s and early 1990s, to "draw a line in the sand"[1] and take a physical stand against the Bombers to make it clear that they wouldn't take the intimidation any longer. Brereton denied the allegation but admitted to advising senior players "to stand up to any Essendon aggression".[2]

Win, lose or draw, a statement needs to be made!

There is no better opponent to make this stand against than the Cheating Kents!

I suspect the Dawks will make a statement about EFC this weekend!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon
I'm hopeful we can dig deep against one of our traditional foes. I just want to see some team cohesion and it's probably time to move those mid-twenties guys who are below average on.

Get through with no injuries and we may beat the Saints the following week. A surprise win and we can be 2-2, so who knows.

Years ago we were like cut snakes when our back was to the wall, now we look more like a slab of beef thrown in the Lions den!

Seeing Smith, and Judd, rip off some Wet Toast jumpers was at least some sign of resistance!

Smith, the kid on the field had more go than 10 year players, despite his complete lack of readiness for AFL!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015-Rnd 3 Carlton vs Essendon
Doesn't matter, they got a kick. You can do what you can with you're put up against. If you do well then then get promoted.

Fair enough, I wasn't there so I can't comment.

I'd love to see 1AW stand on Carlisles head just one more time, and then have Luke "The Hair Sniffer" Darcy give somebody else 2015 Mark of the Year again just to prove what a dickhead Darcy is!

Feck we've been done over in recent years, and nobody at the top end of our club seems to care!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
Wrong LP, where did I advocate keeping the sh1te? I think I said earlier that no one should be off limits, but we certainly have massive problems with our leadership that need sorting out before we can really start going forward, IMHO of course.

Do you read what you post?

They may have been among our best but their best obviously falls a looong way short of what is needed. We may have turned the list over but we didn't turn over the leadership/senior players. That's where we need to be focused.

Doesn't that mean turn over the leaders first, that is what "where we need to be focussed" means doesn't it?

I get it, you want the whole lot gone, very realistic, not unreasonable at all!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
They may have been among our best but their best obviously falls a looong way short of what is needed. We may have turned the list over but we didn't turn over the leadership/senior players. That's where we need to be focused.

It's just crap, we have some quality surrounded by sh1te and you're advocating to keep the sh1te and replace the quality.

Well if the new quality is still surrounded by sh1te it will still stink!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
Think Mick was shattered. There was something subtle in the way he named leaders, or who he didn't name, during his presser. It was a message to some players about his thoughts without him saying it..

I had thought the same in the pass, a careful choice of words, even Ling said as much.

But I'm not so sure any more, and I think Ling is just being polite!

I've watched Malthouse on the boundary line, late last season and Rnd 1 this season and he looks confused, dishevelled even!

It's actually a bit sad!  :(
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
We haven't really looked like premiership material in the reign of 3 coaches and probably as many popes. The common denominator being the playing list, at least it's senior members.

Rubbish, we have turned over the list equal to or more than any other club in the competition, it's just a bogus claim that the list is the common factor!

The fate of our club doesn't begin and end with two or three, and those seniors as you call them, Simpson, Judd, Gibbs as three of them were among our best last night!

Geez I hate to see where we end up when Simmo and Judd retire!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
On last night's performance the removal of Robbo, Garlett, Betts and Waite only served to demonstrate one thing - we didn't remove enough of the so called senior players and leaders. That is where our problems are together with the coaching group that can't get through to them and isn't being listened to.

They are playing exactly the way they are coached, the problem is the way they are coached to play is mostly irrelevant to modern football and also doesn't suit our list!

Go back and watch the first few minutes of the 3rd term, you see a wide shot of the ground as we try to take the ball into F50. While we struggle to pick it up and use the ball on the fence line, three or four Wet Toaster's flood back across the outer wing and are standing spread across our CHF line waiting for us to bomb the ball. There is probably two or three of them for every Carlton forward!

We take the slow road to China every time, building compounds as we go, and when we get there we keep finding an army waiting at the border! It's fecking obvious!

FMD, the ancient Greeks knew the shortest way across a circle is through the centre. Our blokes look tired because the game plan requires them to run 50% more than their opponents. 30 seconds taking it around the boundary, 5 seconds watching it go back through the middle!

Finally the post match press conference, Malthouse struggles to recall even two or three names from the team he has coached for multiple seasons, do you lot need a clearer indicator it's over for him as a match day coach?

This is typical of the ageing process, stress causes an ever reducing number of neurons to misfire and people make bad or stupid decisions, they look confused and struggle to recall basic details after the fact!

It doesn't mean he isn't capable as a head coach or director of coaching, but he cannot match day coach, he looks confused and disorientated at times!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015 Rd2 Carlton vs West Coast Post Match Pain & Suffering
What a lovely evening, it was great to see our boys out there. I love the way they go about the game, so freely, so much invention, so innovative. Fast ball movement, creation of space, excellent use of subs and perfect match day planning. Tactical genius, effort, hardness at the ball, skills, marking, decision making.

We have it all!

It's hard to imagine us being beaten! ;)

We'll have 80,000 members before the mid-season break!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2015-Rnd 2 West Coast vs Carlton
Are we any risk of letting Cripps get involved at stoppages? Or will he be wasted floating around doing not much of anything.

I think he was involved in 20+ stoppages in the NAB game V Geelong and 3 versus Richmond.

The guy is 10 feet tall and the eagles mids are pygmies.

He may have had a bit of Judd envy last week, fwiw they looked like they were all back to the old "Stand-back and let the man work" mode of operation! Which wasn't a major problem because I think we did OK in stoppages, plus Judd is just awesome!

So I agree, let Cripps get in there and let someone like Judd or Gibbs make themselves dangerous on the outside or inside F50.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
Don't think it needs to be quick if it's precise but slow movement followed by a stray kick is death.

It doesn't matter who you are, eventually there is a stray kick and if you move slowly enough a zone is setup to pick it off!

Nobody, not one player or any team, kicks at 100%

The game plan has to craft a win while dealing with imperfections in players.

Our game plan want or needs defensive perfection, but it creates such extreme pressure on the players trying to implement it that it becomes self-defeating! Then to top off their exasperation they get dragged over to the boundary for another earful of confidence, they look puzzled because they tried to do what was asked but failed! It's not like they did something wrong, just that the didn't succeed at it!

Nobody is perfect, not Malthouse and not the players, have a game plan that can deal with it!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Worst Leaders in the AFL!
The one and only way to get rid of the +1 is fast ball movement!

Our current game plan is a like a concession to failure, no risk with no rewards!

But it makes a lot of supporters happy, less blow-outs! ;)

I'd rather have a few 100 point victories mixed in with a few 100 point losses, and bet on a favorable split for the rest, than have a season full of gallant defeats!