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Title: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 05, 2018, 11:11:02 am
All ready for tomorrow night. have fun. I'll be there, abusing my vocal chords.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 07:47:13 pm
Hey Ho Let’s Go
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on April 06, 2018, 08:10:35 pm
Marchy down the race...
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 08:19:53 pm
Great start has amounted to naught, Pies running harder, and our defence is shot already
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Jeffy38 on April 06, 2018, 08:22:49 pm
Killing us outside the bubble
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2018, 08:25:10 pm
A lot of our blokes aren't in the game yet, Rottingwood getting something from most.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on April 06, 2018, 08:25:33 pm
They look a lot quicker. Hopefully they will slow down in second half and we are still in it.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 08:25:43 pm
Sidebottom on track for a 60+ disposal game, will Bolts put anyone on him?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 08:27:56 pm
With Marchbank down (or doubtful at best) it is now Weiterings time to shine.

but FFS keep your feet! Never have i seen a key back on the ground more than him.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 08:35:29 pm
Why do we have Liam Jones playing on Treloar, and Plowman playing on Reid?

Multiple times i've seen this, so its not a matter of zoning off.

EDIT: and now treloar has gone into the guts, so Jones is matched up on Sidebottom!
WTF?!
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 08:35:53 pm
How our midfield going?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2018, 08:36:01 pm
This could get nasty... they're taking over and it is far too easy.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2018, 08:37:26 pm
They've kicked the last 6 goals in around 17 minutes of football. Oh dear...
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 08:43:05 pm
We are about to get smashed peeps, and I want to know what the hell the coaching dream team has been doing for the last 5 months, we have gone backwards at a million miles an hour >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: blue4life on April 06, 2018, 08:45:52 pm
We are a rabble.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: maxm68 on April 06, 2018, 08:47:32 pm
WAP.... Goodnight.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2018, 08:47:35 pm
4th rebuild...
this doesnt look good,
weitering is shot,
no leadership out there - what.so.ever.

this is going to get nasty
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 08:48:45 pm
How our midfield going?

Winning hitouts.
Winning centre clearances....and clearances overall.

Could be worse.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 08:50:41 pm
Winning hitouts.
Winning centre clearances....and clearances overall.

Could be worse.

It's on Channel 72.

Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 08:52:11 pm
It's on Channel 72.

504 thanks.

Not saying they are good.....just that it could be worse.

If they had anyone forward of centre, we might see how good our forwards are.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on April 06, 2018, 08:52:22 pm
Any hope or is it done and dusted?

Are we hitting yet a new rock bottom?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on April 06, 2018, 08:52:46 pm
Any alfalfa green shoots showing yet BB?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: BluePhantom on April 06, 2018, 08:53:42 pm
We will never get another Friday night game.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rick on April 06, 2018, 08:53:53 pm
Absolutely atrocious if this all they got why bother
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 08:55:05 pm
Any hope or is it done and dusted?

Are we hitting yet a new rock bottom?

Marchbank missing 20mins of footy just about lost us the game.

He's back on now and things are better, but we are seriously under the pump and we need something dramatic to change. Half time can't come quick enough.
If we cut half time short and come back 10minutes before the pies do, we might be able to get back into the game.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 08:56:40 pm
504 thanks.

Not saying they are good.....just that it could be worse.

If they had anyone forward of centre, we might see how good our forwards are.

Uncontested possession count?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 08:56:56 pm
No Moore, Fasolo, Elliott, DeGoey. Otherwise we'd be 12 goals down.

Small mercies...........

Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: sydneybluesfan on April 06, 2018, 08:58:13 pm
13 players yet to lay a single tackle 1 minute before half time. There’s something seriously wrong. We are an absolute rabble.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 08:58:50 pm
Well, phuk! Where do we go from here. We can't find a side that stays committed year in, year out.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2018, 08:59:17 pm
Absolutely atrocious if this all they got why bother

I am finding it difficult to enjoy this. Year after year of crap. Progress?????
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on April 06, 2018, 08:59:42 pm
Wooden spoon coming our way boys.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:01:45 pm
The Treloar/Sidebottom move to FF has thrown Bolton completely, Pies did the same move last week vs GWS, obviously we did no scouting at all, cant compete when the the coach cant find the right matchups....
Pies are intimidating us too...too many boys in our team.....
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2018, 09:02:32 pm
Wooden spoon coming our way boys.

So we can have more draft picks to screw up?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:03:03 pm
Why do we have Liam Jones playing on Treloar, and Plowman playing on Reid?

Multiple times i've seen this, so its not a matter of zoning off.

EDIT: and now treloar has gone into the guts, so Jones is matched up on Sidebottom!
WTF?!

Outcoached, no scouting from last week...same move by Buckley vs GWS...
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:03:18 pm
The good news is how good are we for 5 mins in the first quarter at the G?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on April 06, 2018, 09:03:40 pm
Gee we are in real trouble this Year already.

I can’t think what can turn it around? How many players do you have to turn over to be competitive?  Am losing spirit this season already - I fear the blowtorch might come on B.B. very quickly now
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:03:58 pm
Wooden spoon coming our way boys.

Yep. We are all at sea! Poor skills execution and our zone defence is just not working - players are just confused and do not know what to do or where to go. A loooong year ahead. Feel like just taking the year off atm!!  :(

Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:04:41 pm
So we can have more draft picks to screw up?

Probably.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 09:05:18 pm
13 players yet to lay a single tackle 1 minute before half time. There’s something seriously wrong. We are an absolute rabble.

We've recruited players that have shown that can play, we've seen that the last two years but when the effort is so poor it's doesn't matter who's out there. Very disappointing. 16 years, bar a patch between 2008-11 and other odd flashes, we have been so uncommitted to the task with a poor, on-field culture.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:05:34 pm
The Treloar/Sidebottom move to FF has thrown Bolton completely, Pies did the same move last week vs GWS, obviously we did no scouting at all, cant compete when the the coach cant find the right matchups....
Pies are intimidating us too...too many boys in our team.....

We never had anyone in out backline to stop their average small forwards...so putting gun mids down there was a smart move. A move that we should've been prepared for given they did it last week.

Another failure to pick a side to match the opposition. That is 3 from 3.

Slow learner.

We can (but won't) still win the game from here, but it won't change the fact we didn't pick a side giving our best chance of winning.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on April 06, 2018, 09:05:48 pm
Gee I'm lost for words :-\
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:06:03 pm
Outcoached, no scouting from last week...same move by Buckley vs GWS...

Just posted the same thing.  ;)
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Vivian on April 06, 2018, 09:06:24 pm
Our midfield is full of children that are brushed aside.  Few can tackle and the skills are lacking.  Is the depth so lacking that we play Dow who is not at all ready?
The Jones experiment is likely at the end game. He is exposed, but is being too easily exploited.
Grundy is dominating kreuzer.

All a bit grim.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 09:06:28 pm
We will never get another Friday night game.
Sorry BF, we’ve got another 3 to embarrass our club in this year
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:06:45 pm
We've recruited players that have shown that can play, we've seen that the last two years but when the effort is so poor it's doesn't matter who's out there. Very disappointing. 16 years, bar a patch between 2008-11 and other odd flashes, we have been so uncommitted to the task with a poor, on-field culture.

Poorly coached, soft and when you see how many players are unmanned you know the players are not committed and there is zero leadership.....
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:07:16 pm
We've recruited players that have shown that can play, we've seen that the last two years but when the effort is so poor it's doesn't matter who's out there. Very disappointing. 16 years, bar a patch between 2008-11 and other odd flashes, we have been so uncommitted to the task with a poor, on-field culture.

Our chances of getting any established stars would be about zero now - who would want to come to us - more importantly, who would want to stay??
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:08:12 pm
Hard to watch and basically not acceptable.

Polsen, Lamb ain’t up to it. Weitering and Jones putrid.

We’re carrying so many tonight - SPS, Dow, Garlett, Fisher, Murphy (MIA) the list goes on. Horrible
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: shawny on April 06, 2018, 09:08:16 pm
Our mid field has not one player that can sprint hard from a contest. Murphy can’t do it anymore and there is no one behind him capable.

Dow as an early pick just adds to this problem - he also only has one gear.

Getting smashed on the outside by an average team with a heap of injuries. 
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:08:40 pm
Uncontested possession count?

We can't keep possession of the ball, so getting smashed.

Thats 1 part, midfielders fault
1 part lack of forward setup
1 part inexperience
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:09:28 pm
This is a coaching issue I'm afraid. How many more promising guys do we we have to burn up?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:10:30 pm
Hard to watch and basically not acceptable.

Polsen, Lamb ain’t up to it. Weitering and Jones putrid.

We’re carrying so many tonight - SPS, Dow, Garlett, Fisher, Murphy (MIA) the list goes on. Horrible

Ha.    That 2 of our best players tonight.

Trade them like Gibbs and bring in a 18 year kid.   Should improve things.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: slikguy on April 06, 2018, 09:11:13 pm
Agreed. We’ve been out coached again
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:11:45 pm
The Jones experiment is likely at the end game. He is exposed, but is being too easily exploited.

Drop Weitering and Jones.
Bring in Rowe and A. Silvagni.

Problem solved.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:12:24 pm
Drop Weitering and Jones.
Bring in Rowe and A. Silvagni.

Problem solved.

Back to the future?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:12:52 pm
We can't keep possession of the ball, so getting smashed.

Thats 1 part, midfielders fault
1 part lack of forward setup
1 part inexperience

All part bottom 2 list in the AFL.  ;)   Or outcoached.   However you want to slice it.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:13:07 pm
Weitering is shot, letting that nobody spud Crocker give it you isnt acceptable, hit back, do something just dont stand there being submissive.....
Get Rowe and ACOS back in this team because its insipid without our players flying the flag...

Kade Simpson can hold his head up.....contests and gives it back...
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:14:04 pm
Ha.    That 2 of our best players tonight.

Trade them like Gibbs and bring in a 18 year kid.   Should improve things.

Every team gets a 1st round pick, every year.

If you want to overtake teams, you need extra 1st round picks and top end talent.

How do you get top end talent and extra picks....sell off players that are coming to the end of their used by date. Short term pain for long term gain.
Never had an issue with Gibbs, nor the Gibbs trade.

Without doing that, how do you propose we jump up the ladder?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:14:26 pm
Drop Weitering and Jones.
Bring in Rowe and A. Silvagni.

Problem solved.

Posted same....bring in two players who can stand up and not be bullied...I'd have OShea back in as well....Mullet is invisible out there and useless IMO...
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 09:14:33 pm
Gotta say, you get a contest from Kerridge, Graham, & SOS, theyre not Blue Chip, but they crack in....I have lost respect & any hope for this FC in 2018.... >:(
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:14:51 pm
Ha.    That 2 of our best players tonight.

Trade them like Gibbs and bring in a 18 year kid.   Should improve things.

Which two? Jones and Weitering?

They can play but they are absolutely putrid tonight and Weitering is sooooo slow
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:15:51 pm
Which two? Jones and Weitering?

They can play but they are absolutely outrun tonight and Weitering is sooooo slow

Fisher and Murphy.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 06, 2018, 09:16:27 pm
Which two? Jones and Weitering?

They can play but they are absolutely putrid tonight and Weitering is sooooo slow

And his kicking is woeful, no pressure and cannot hit a target, should not have played ......
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:16:30 pm
All part bottom 2 list in the AFL.  ;)   Or outcoached.   However you want to slice it.

I have been a pioneer for pointing out how bad our list is and trying to temper people expectations as a result. So believe me i understand.

That being said, doesn't excuse the poor performances by the Bolton and co at the selection table.

Sure, we'll struggle to get a win, but you don't have to make sure of it.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:17:00 pm
Gotta say, you get a contest from Kerridge, Graham, & SOS, theyre not Blue Chip, but they crack in....I have lost respect & any hope for this FC in 2018.... >:(

I actually feel ill watching this
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:17:20 pm
Gotta say, you get a contest from Kerridge, Graham, & SOS, theyre not Blue Chip, but they crack in....I have lost respect & any hope for this FC in 2018.... >:(

Honest question.   What did you expect with 2 of your best 4 gone from 2017.   Improvement from?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Brettie on April 06, 2018, 09:17:56 pm
Are we taking the pi55???
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:18:11 pm
Fisher and Murphy.

Love them but they need to lift - not good enough , nowhere near it
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:18:16 pm
Weitering is shot, letting that nobody spud Crocker give it you isnt acceptable, hit back, do something just dont stand there being submissive.....
Get Rowe and ACOS back in this team because its insipid without our players flying the flag...

Kade Simpson can hold his head up.....contests and gives it back...

Weets needs a rest. Give Crocker a clip, take 2 weeks off courtesy of the tribunal, and try to start the process of getting yourself sorted.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:18:21 pm
I have been a pioneer for pointing out how bad our list is and trying to temper people expectations as a result. So believe me i understand.

That being said, doesn't excuse the poor performances by the Bolton and co at the selection table.

Sure, we'll struggle to get a win, but you don't have to make sure of it.

This has zero to do with selection.    We just don't have the cattle.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 09:18:44 pm
Our players are uptight and confused I'm afraid. Running around in circles - headless chooks - disillusioned. Embarrassing. I've just about had my fill I'm afraid - we are seeing zero progress. Just glad I didn't go along.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 09:19:08 pm
Drop Weitering and Jones.
Bring in Rowe and A. Silvagni.

Problem solved.

ASOS has another week or two with a hammy but he's ideal to bring in. Still, we have to scrubb up on that on-field attitude though or it will barely matter.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rick on April 06, 2018, 09:19:30 pm
Green shoots shrunk shriveled and died
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:20:52 pm
Gee Kennedy looks slow.   Hopefully it's just more game time.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:23:10 pm
Gee Kennedy looks slow.   Hopefully it's just more game time.
It’s beyond slow and you can add Weitering - Lance Whitnall speed, without the awareness. Simply embarrassing
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:25:55 pm
This has zero to do with selection.    We just don't have the cattle.

We don't have the cattle, sure. But when you are picking a side there is a relatively simple structure you try to adhere too.

1 (or 2) rucks
a couple of key backs
a couple of key forwards
generous amount of mids
a sprinkling of little blokes up forward and an equivalent down back.

Last week we had...
0 (or 1/2 a ruck in casboult)
4+ key backs
1 key forward
generous amount of mids
sprinkling of little blokes up forward and a simpson and imposters down back

Sure, you can adjust this (and SHOULD) to suit your opposition. This week is better, but still not very well balanced.

Given your penchant of pointing out our (lack of) depth in the midfield, surely we should include an extra one or 2 and cut out a superfluous key back? But NO, not us.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:27:44 pm
What do we say about Casboult Jimbo?


Where is LP?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 06, 2018, 09:28:04 pm
And we thought last week was bad!

We look absolutely clueless.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Meddy43 on April 06, 2018, 09:28:45 pm
I’m getting so peeved by the non calls on dropping and throwing the when we lay a tackle. We can barely lay one and then when we do we never get rewarded, yet when we are tackled it’s the complete opposite. Grr.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 09:29:23 pm
This has zero to do with selection.    We just don't have the cattle.

Cattle is at least enough to get us to 10th/11th. This is just a lack of effort.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:40:29 pm
Levi almost our best tonight. Good to see.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:41:44 pm
Said earlier this week that Casboult kicks 3 or more goals in a game every 7.3 games on average. Improving that tonight.

Never kicked 5 in a game. This could be it.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on April 06, 2018, 09:42:11 pm
Levi almost our best tonight. Good to see.
Anyone else putting up some semblance of a fight?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:42:21 pm
My god lamb and Polson are so poor
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Professer E on April 06, 2018, 09:43:27 pm
Glad I decided to catch the late afternoon tide to score  a pile of good gar instead of dragging the little bloke to the footy.

What a putrid effort on such a big night.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on April 06, 2018, 09:43:45 pm
Levi almost our best tonight. Good to see.

No doubt. Thrown his weight around too, and ruck ok.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2018, 09:43:54 pm
honestly, this is making sick to watch.

Cant wait for murphy to retire. Im sure he's a nice bloke and all, but he takes more than he gives from this club.

I don't know whats happened, i was confident coming in we'd be 2 and 1, but i cant see us winning more the 3 the whole year!
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:44:06 pm
Anyone else putting up some semblance of a fight?

Cripps, Fisher, Lamb, Charlie, probably one or two others.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:45:12 pm
Cripps, Fisher, Lamb, Charlie, probably one or two others.

Lamb/you’ve got to be joking . They should stamp his papers. awful
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 09:45:40 pm
What do we say about Casboult Jimbo?


Where is LP?

Looking for thumbs up emoji..lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on April 06, 2018, 09:46:12 pm
There is a real lack of spirit out there IMO. Self belief shot. No mongrel shown or anyone that can change the momentum and lift the team. Kreuzer trying his heart out but he can't do it alone.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Professer E on April 06, 2018, 09:47:26 pm
Been saying for two years,  Lamb is a spud.   We'd be better of playing a man short,  it would cost less.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:49:28 pm
Lamb/you’ve got to be joking . They should stamp his papers. awful

The question was posed as to who is putting up some semblance of a fight. Hence Lamb. I know skill wise he's not great.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 09:49:44 pm
Anyone else putting up some semblance of a fight?

Charlie has been good.
Daisy been solid.
Garlett looks lively.
SPS hasn't done anything wrong
Marchbank was good before going off
Fisher busting his gut
Cuningham hasn't done enough, but i'm starting to see some potential
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 09:49:56 pm
Been saying for two years,  Lamb is a spud.   We'd be better of playing a man short,  it would cost less.
Couldn’t agree more. How we can have Jack Silvagni in the VFL with this guy in the seniors is beyond belief.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:51:11 pm
Ah Levi - missed a chance of kicking 5 before 3/4 time.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on April 06, 2018, 09:51:27 pm
X 2
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 09:51:32 pm
How many years did we give Jones?
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: sydneybluesfan on April 06, 2018, 09:52:31 pm
Lamb, Mullet just terrible for blokes with their age and experience. Add them to Palmer & Smedts on the Carlton scarpheap of spuds.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Vivian on April 06, 2018, 09:54:04 pm
Ah Levi - missed a chance of kicking 5 before 3/4 time.

One of his best games. C curnow, fisher and Cripps have done well. Thomas works hard as does Simpson but neither have much impact anymore.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 09:55:02 pm
How many years did we give Jones?

I believe till the end of 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Brettie on April 06, 2018, 09:55:09 pm
This is terrible.....can’t believe we’re playing these spuds into form.....
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on April 06, 2018, 09:55:17 pm
Cripps, Fisher, Lamb, Charlie, probably one or two others.

MK, Jones, and Daisy having a go.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: flyboy77 on April 06, 2018, 09:55:42 pm
And why the f... do we continue to play Dow and Polson?

Down to 20 before the first bounce !!
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: sydneybluesfan on April 06, 2018, 09:55:49 pm
14 players have laid 8 tackles between them in 3 quarters of football.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: LoveNavy on April 06, 2018, 09:57:05 pm
Levi for 5?????
C'mon big fella.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rational_Expectations on April 06, 2018, 09:59:16 pm
I'm going to miss Matthew Kreuzer when he retires.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Micky0 on April 06, 2018, 10:00:06 pm
14 players have laid 8 tackles between them in 3 quarters of football.
There is barely any skill involved in tackling ffs!

This is what gets me - do the little things if you can’t or did not have the confidence to do the big things!!!

Absolutely pathetic
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:01:27 pm
Sidebottom should miss a week for that tackle on Fisher.

Then 1 minute later pulls that goal out of his behind.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:02:20 pm
Come on Matt Kennedy.   Work your way into this game.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Meddy43 on April 06, 2018, 10:03:06 pm
How many of Murphy’s kicks gone to Collingwood players? Pretty much most of them. F me.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on April 06, 2018, 10:04:00 pm
Marc Murphy our highest possession getter...with no impact.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:04:05 pm
How many of Murphy’s kicks gone to Collingwood players? Pretty much most of them. F me.


No.

Going at 70.8%
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rational_Expectations on April 06, 2018, 10:04:14 pm
How many of Murphy’s kicks gone to Collingwood players? Pretty much most of them. F me.

It's his constant missed tackles that hurt.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 10:04:58 pm
Polson fmd
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:07:26 pm
Like Gibbs.   Trade Murphy.   Both no good.

We have Graham and Kerridge waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Vivian on April 06, 2018, 10:08:18 pm
It's his constant missed tackles that hurt.

Never been keen on bagging the captain, but how many games has Murphy ever impacted? Could count them on one hand.  Should not be captain. Let him stick to just playing footy.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:08:38 pm
Like Gibbs.   Trade Murphy.   Both no good.

We have Graham and Kerridge waiting in the wings.

Come up with a genuine alternative rather than teenage level sarcasm.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:09:14 pm
Never been keen on bagging the captain, but how many games has Murphy ever impacted? Could count them on one hand.  Should not be captain. Let him stick to just playing footy.

Which part of being Captain do you think weighs on him the most? 
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rational_Expectations on April 06, 2018, 10:09:46 pm
There is a real lack of spirit out there IMO. Self belief shot. No mongrel shown or anyone that can change the momentum and lift the team. Kreuzer trying his heart out but he can't do it alone.

Sadly, this has been a feature of Carlton sides for some time.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Meddy43 on April 06, 2018, 10:10:17 pm


No.

Going at 70.8%

Ok fair enough. But every time he kicks into F50 it’s a bomb to no advantage. That’s more what I’m getting at I suppose. Not the only on of course, but as captain he needs to be nailing forward targets.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:10:32 pm
Come up with a genuine alternative rather than teenage level sarcasm.

That's all I have.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 06, 2018, 10:11:53 pm
Who the feck is Josh Fecking Thomas....5 goals....purlease
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 10:12:07 pm
Time to take up a new sport...like drinking..lol.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rational_Expectations on April 06, 2018, 10:14:26 pm
Cuningham and Dow have shown something tonight.

Polson not ready. May never be.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:14:42 pm
Who the feck is Josh Fecking Thomas....5 goals....purlease

He was one of those nobodies i pointed out pre-game we'd make a star out of because we had a backline that didn't have a matchup for.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on April 06, 2018, 10:14:55 pm
Yep..time for another red
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:15:05 pm
I hope Murphy has a season at another club.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:15:30 pm
Kennedy looks to either be cramping, or done a hammy.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 10:16:28 pm
There was a little patch of effort @ one of the first times tonight, that all we expect
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:16:34 pm
That's all I have.

You used to have thoughts an opinions. You've devolved.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Shakin77 on April 06, 2018, 10:18:29 pm
You used to have thoughts an opinions. You've devolved.

lol.   Got old.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: pertz on April 06, 2018, 10:19:54 pm
Any Idea why we wouldn't tag Steele Sidebottom FFS
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Vivian on April 06, 2018, 10:21:01 pm
Which part of being Captain do you think weighs on him the most?

Its never too fair to judge from afar but he just seems too quiet and lacking a voice and presence on the field.  We have a lot of wall flowers already and lack senior leadership. Murphy may well be the best we have though, and that says much about our recruitment.

The captain role asks a lot of a young nan, with skills that are often not developed until later in age. So clubs pump training into them in the hope it works. But a fai r level of confidence and arrogance is needed and Murphy doesn't seem to have these qualities
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 06, 2018, 10:21:26 pm
Any Idea why we wouldn't tag Steele Sidebottom FFS

We tried. Too good for Ed
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Rick on April 06, 2018, 10:23:47 pm
What dribble crap will come out of the coach after this
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: thrunthrublu on April 06, 2018, 10:24:05 pm
i waited 6 months , all i do is fkn wait
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Meddy43 on April 06, 2018, 10:24:38 pm
Cripps looks so frustrated.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 10:25:13 pm
Kreuzer and Casboult have had 36 touches and 5 goals between them tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: madbluboy on April 06, 2018, 10:27:21 pm
Outcoached again.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: flyboy77 on April 06, 2018, 10:28:16 pm
at the selection table....
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: laj on April 06, 2018, 10:28:57 pm
I don't know what's worse, our putrid performance or Collingwood only winning by 24pts. We had more scoring shots, which actually pays on Ladbrokes this week.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: JonDorotich on April 06, 2018, 10:29:12 pm
What dribble crap will come out of the coach after this

Let me guess  - apart from the obligatory nonsense stats quotes

- we don’t absolve ourselves from wanting to win games and will strive to do better
- we’ve turned over a large number of players and it will take time to gel
- proud that we fought it out to the end
- round 3 can’t catastrophise
-
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: blue4life on April 06, 2018, 10:32:13 pm
Too many passengers is the bottom line, it was only four goals and Collingwood kicked dead straight.
We need another three or four quality players, at the moment the alternatives to the likes of Polson and Lamb are Nick Graham or Sam Kerridge and neither of them are much chop.
We've just got to suck it up for another year or two.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 06, 2018, 10:33:23 pm
Too many passengers is the bottom line, it was only four goals and Collingwood kicked dead straight.
We need another three or four quality players, at the moment the alternatives to the likes of Polson and Lamb are Nick Graham or Sam Kerridge and neither of them are much chop.
We've just got to suck it up for another year or two.

Lamb certainly isn't much chop.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 06, 2018, 10:40:35 pm
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Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: flyboy77 on April 06, 2018, 10:42:45 pm
Som,eone said our 14 of our blokes had laid 8 tackles (combined in total) up to 3-4 time.

Woeful.
Title: Re: 2018 Rd 3: In Game Attitude: Carlton vs Collingwood
Post by: Professer E on April 06, 2018, 10:45:56 pm
Examples have to be made, and not just kids and fringe players.

Man up or &^_(* off.