Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #285 – February 28, 2014, 01:40:36 pm Quote from: townsendcalling on February 28, 2014, 12:55:50 pmNobody had Buckley in their starting 22 for 2014. Is he a chance and who does he replace??Remote chance IMO....Cripps, Everitt and Thomas will be the new players for rnd 1 IMO.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #286 – February 28, 2014, 03:28:59 pm http://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/2014-preview-carlton-5205176.html
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #287 – February 28, 2014, 08:27:23 pm Quote from: flyboy77 on February 28, 2014, 03:28:59 pmhttp://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/2014-preview-carlton-5205176.htmlThey got it right...we wont be able to kick enough goals with our present setup, Henderson is our only hope down forward to partner Waite with success and is the key player if we are to make finals and get anywhere.Casboult, Rowe and Kruezer wont get it done and are just plodders up forward filling positions but not taking us anyhwere...
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #288 – February 28, 2014, 08:38:05 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on February 28, 2014, 08:27:23 pmQuote from: flyboy77 on February 28, 2014, 03:28:59 pmhttp://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/2014-preview-carlton-5205176.htmlThey got it right...we wont be able to kick enough goals with our present setup, Henderson is our only hope down forward to partner Waite with success and is the key player if we are to make finals and get anywhere.Casboult, Rowe and Kruezer wont get it done and are just plodders up forward filling positions but not taking us anyhwere...Does Kreuzer play #1 ruck and Casboult backup/forward or does Warnock play #1 with Kreuzer backup/forward?It's obvious that Wood will be elevated, as none of the other eligible rookies have been given a game in the NAB challenge. Could he be in the mix?
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #289 – February 28, 2014, 08:38:21 pm Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on February 28, 2014, 08:27:23 pmQuote from: flyboy77 on February 28, 2014, 03:28:59 pmhttp://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/2014-preview-carlton-5205176.htmlThey got it right...we wont be able to kick enough goals with our present setup, Henderson is our only hope down forward to partner Waite with success and is the key player if we are to make finals and get anywhere.Casboult, Rowe and Kruezer wont get it done and are just plodders up forward filling positions but not taking us anyhwere...Agree, with Eddie gone, if Waite and Hendo don't last the season we will have a problem kicking enough goals. Unless of course someone like Menzel or Jeffy or someone else steps up. Our defence will also be tested.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #290 – February 28, 2014, 08:41:50 pm Menzel is an option and so too is Everitt if Watson can hold a spot down in defence. We still have a few options but Kreuzer, and Casboult along with Rowe need to show they are genuine. Otherwise we may be trading payers away at the end of the season. By what I have heard about Wood he is an option as a forward.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #291 – February 28, 2014, 09:59:13 pm Quote from: cookie2 on February 28, 2014, 08:38:21 pmQuote from: ElwoodBlues1 on February 28, 2014, 08:27:23 pmQuote from: flyboy77 on February 28, 2014, 03:28:59 pmhttp://media.theage.com.au/national/selections/2014-preview-carlton-5205176.htmlThey got it right...we wont be able to kick enough goals with our present setup, Henderson is our only hope down forward to partner Waite with success and is the key player if we are to make finals and get anywhere.Casboult, Rowe and Kruezer wont get it done and are just plodders up forward filling positions but not taking us anyhwere...Agree, with Eddie gone, if Waite and Hendo don't last the season we will have a problem kicking enough goals. Unless of course someone like Menzel or Jeffy or someone else steps up. Our defence will also be tested.Cookie..The only other option and the one who I would have playing forward is Andrew Walker..., a proven 50 goal a season player who could give us an edge providing the coach thinks he isnt needed down back and I'm all for winning games rather than saving them, lets hope Mick is in attacking frame of mind.Everitt is a floater IMO....you play him where you think he gives us an edge but dont pidgeon hole him in one spot .
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #292 – February 28, 2014, 10:15:04 pm @EB1Agree about 1AW Elwood. I've always preferred to see him play forward - he is much more a natural forward than a defender IMO, and is an accurate kick for goal.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #293 – February 28, 2014, 11:23:34 pm Quote from: cookie2 on February 28, 2014, 10:15:04 pm@EB1Agree about 1AW Elwood. I've always preferred to see him play forward - he is much more a natural forward than a defender IMO, and is an accurate kick for goal.This is where stubborn Mick has to concede that Ratts actually got that one right. The loss of Betts shall be lessened by the inclusion of Walker, Menzel and even Judd into the forward line on a regular basis.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #294 – March 01, 2014, 06:04:33 am @EBAgree play Walker up front for sure, even if it means Everitt goes down back.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #295 – March 01, 2014, 12:03:08 pm None of these blokes mentioend above will be pigeon holed. Add Yarran, Tuohy, White to that mix. They along with Eevritt, Walker, henderson, Waite, Rowe, watson will play forward and back. We recrited Everitt to allow Walks to move forward more cos McInnes and Bootsma aint cutting it at all. Whiet is coming back from a serious injury but i reckon he may be better forward, nevertheless he would be targeted to play 3rd tall deep in defence to allow the likes of Walker and Everitt in particular to play half-back and half-forward and NOT be tragged deep into defence too often.Everitt will allow Walks to go forward - neither will be permanent forward IMO well according to MM anyway so blind freddy could tell you walker will play forward much mroe this year. So we know this already as we do that henderson will play forward and Watson will be our startring CHB. e have to do this and see how we go. Be prepared people to cop some knocks on Watto but lets hope he continues to improve and win more contests than lose and get some confidence up which he has notibly done already this preseason IMo with a much better and stronger and fitter body shape. Quite clearly trimmer where he needs to be, stronger and more of a muslce tone. Clear as day and needed to happen.Example:The backs will be - Jamison, Watson, Everitt/Walker, Tuohy, Yarran, SimpsonThe forwards will be - Waite, Henderson, Walker/Everitt, Kreuzer, Garlett, MenzelRucks - Warnock, KreuzerForward rotations - all onballers (eg. Murphy, Gibbs, Thomas, Judd, Carrazzo, McLean, Robinson, Ellard, Cripps, Graham)We need a huge spike in improvemnet from Casboult, Rowe, McInnes, Bootsma, Lucas and co. Otherwise, seeya come seasons end.
Re: Best 22 for 2014 Reply #296 – March 02, 2014, 11:17:22 am Who will kick the goals in 2014:Hendo - 30-40.Jeff G - 40 odd.Menzel - 30 odd.Walker/Everitt - (combined) - 40 odd.Judd/Murph/McLean - (comb) - 40 odd.Yazz - 30 odd (he kicked 26 last year without playing forward a lot)Waite - 20 odd.Hawks top 10 in 2013?Rank Name Games Total1 J. Roughead 25 722 Lance Franklin 21 603 Jack Gunston 23 464 Luke Breust 25 405 David Hale 24 206 Cyril Rioli 15 197 Shaun Burgoyne 23 187 Bradley Hill 24 187 Isaac Smith 24 1810 Jordan Lewis 24 17
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