Next Sunday we play on the Gold Coast next Sunday against a team that has done better than expected so far. They have won a game and we haven't, no matter how close we've got.
We have travelled poorly in recent years.
Lose this and might as well shut up shop.....we will be wooden spooner again.
No more BS excuses like 'if we only kicked straight' or if 'umpires liked us' - Just have to win this.
End of story.
We have travelled poorly in recent years.
To be fair Crash we've played poorly in Melbourne too...
If we are any hope for the future we should win this easily IMO, they fluked a win but have lost several of their best bogey players for us since we last played them and have a novice coach with less miles on the clock than Bolton.
Only real problem is Witts who is another ruckman who likes to dine out on us but there is no Lynch and no May and we should win easily IMO by 5 goals or more.....
If we are any hope for the future we should win this easily IMO, they fluked a win but have lost several of their best bogey players for us since we last played them and have a novice coach with less miles on the clock than Bolton.
Only real problem is Witts who is another ruckman who likes to dine out on us but there is no Lynch and no May and we should win easily IMO by 5 goals or more.....
Glad to see you are confident El. What does it say about us if we lose?
We have travelled poorly in recent years.
To be fair Crash we've played poorly in Melbourne too...
Truer words were never posted.
Glad to see you are confident El. What does it say about us if we lose?
Mants....we should have won vs the Swans and probably Port as well....there is something holding us back. Brisbane have a similar list with a similar novice coach, yet are progressing at a rate of knots while we are floundering.
If we lose its probably time to conduct a review of the whole operation, not sack the coach but look at everything we are doing, similar to what Geelong did with Mark Thompson.
If we fall in by a few points or GC beat us by a few points it probably doesnt change much IMO.....we need to win by 5 goals min, kick 100 points and move to the next step in the journey.....
I fully agree with you Elwood. We need a review after round 7 no matter what. We probably only have 2 games we might beat at that point in time. To examine everything by then would just be diligence by the club as a whole. It couldn’t hurt. Supporters shouldn’t expect any less. To fine tune 5 or 6 aspects of preparation, player game day selections, game day coaching changes on the ground, leaders stepping up, taking risks, better pressure acts and one per enters could make us a quality side. At the moment it looks as though opponents don’t need to fear us. Just be patient as they will get over the line in the final quarter eventually. Melbourne had this problem for some time. Mind you this is not a great season for them to begin with.
We must win this, no ifs or buts. Lose and Bolton can roll himself out the door.
We have won at Metricon the last 2 years. one of our 2 wins last year.
We must win this, no ifs or buts. Lose and Bolton can roll himself out the door.
We have won at Metricon the last 2 years. one of our 2 wins last year.
It isn't impossible. We can do it. We are better than we were last year, but we need to stop their game as well as play ours.
I'm not confident we can kick the 14 or so goals required to win.
Interesting stat from from today’s Gold Coast v Dogs match. The suns wons the hitouts 71 - 16.
Any chance Kreuzer will be ready?
Interesting stat from from today’s Gold Coast v Dogs match. The suns wons the hitouts 71 - 16.
Any chance Kreuzer will be ready?
Wow - I've never seen a discrepancy like that. Caleb Daniel was rucking ?
Mants....we should have won vs the Swans and probably Port as well....there is something holding us back. Brisbane have a similar list with a similar novice coach, yet are progressing at a rate of knots while we are floundering.
If we lose its probably time to conduct a review of the whole operation, not sack the coach but look at everything we are doing, similar to what Geelong did with Mark Thompson.
If we fall in by a few points or GC beat us by a few points it probably doesnt change much IMO.....we need to win by 5 goals min, kick 100 points and move to the next step in the journey.....
They have Luke Hodge. Very good leadership and knows what it takes is telling all the Brisbane boys how to get it done.
Wow - I've never seen a discrepancy like that. Caleb Daniel was rucking ?
Tim English 15
Josh Schache 1
Jarrod Witts 52
Peter Wright 19
Tim English 15
Josh Schache 1
Jarrod Witts 52
Peter Wright 19
Hmm. Thanks. Where did you find those stats ?
Hmm. Thanks. Where did you find those stats ?
AFL app on my phone
AFL app on my phone
Thanks. I do have the free AFL app. I'll have to check it out.
Interesting stat from from today’s Gold Coast v Dogs match. The suns wons the hitouts 71 - 16.
Any chance Kreuzer will be ready?
I'll take it step further...
Bulldogs, despite that, won the centre clearances 14-8 and overall 44-30. So much for the big tapout advantage. Just have the mids in the centre square ready.
I'll take it step further...
Bulldogs, despite that, won the centre clearances 14-8 and overall 44-30. So much for the big tapout advantage. Just have the mids in the centre square ready.
Just further evidence taps are pointless stats, and our main problem in the absence of SpecialK is our ruck ineffectiveness around the ground.
It's not the hitouts that sway the result, it's the 2nd and 3rd efforts, or the absence of them.
You can lose the tap and win the clearances, through body positioning, blocks, second efforts, etc., etc..
Tim English 15
Josh Schache 1
Jarrod Witts 52
Peter Wright 19
Witts has developed into a good tap ruckman, something I never expected when I saw him at Collingwood. He is our biggest danger at the weekend, as he can give his mids an overwhelming advantage in the middle of the ground. Granted that not all of his taps are to advantage, but the Dogs do have a very solid midfield crew. We badly need 4 quarters from our mids other than just Cripps and Walsh.
At this point I would be looking for ruck options. Having one for this game would be a disaster, a 'point source error'. How fit Kreuzer is, is going to be the question of the week.
Polson and Gibbons need to go back to the VFL and get their confidence back. A couple of big possession games and we can try one of them again.
Marchbank was clearly underdone. Whether we play him in the seniors this week is going to depend on the match-ups. Whether he plays seniors of VFL he will be better for the run.
Lochie O'Brien is another who will be under pressure. His game was disappointing. he needs t get a few 30+ possessions games in the VFL. It isn't impossible. However, he has certainly not come along as we had hoped and is looking to be a possible mistake for our pick 10 selection.
Setterfield disappointed last weekend, but his fitness after such a long break is understandably ordinary. I'd be willing to persevere with his for a little while yet. But I would like to see him step up, as he does have a lot of what we need.
Who to bring in is an interesting question also: Jack Silvagni and Kennedy are reasonably obvious. They don't improve our pace, but they have bigger, stronger bodies (I can't believe I am writing that about Jack, who needs more work in this area, but when compared to...) and can help in the middle. Jack can also go forward.
Not playing Kennedy and Jack sos is a mistake currently. We need to work out if they're worth persisting with at afl level.
Fasolo is the same. Polson, garlett and Gibbons too.
We wont find out anything about these guys playing in the vfl. Playing marchbank under done was the height of stupidity as he is a premium player and has a history of breaking down. Get him fit. Now McGovern is under done too.
We wont find out anything about these guys playing in the vfl. Playing marchbank under done was the height of stupidity as he is a premium player and has a history of breaking down.
I'm not sure about that, to be a premium player I would think the starting point is reliability and he is at best unreliable, even ignoring his poor ball use and decision making.
Really, at the weekend, I thought we actually lost something by having Marchbank play the intercept and ball distributer roll instead of Weitering. In terms of distributing the footy Weitering is so far ahead of Marchbank it's not even worth discussing! So I would have flipped those roles and have Marchbank being the 3rd man up to hopefully feed Weitering with distribution opportunities.
It was just another rob Peter to pay Paul scenario, like rucking McKay!
At the moment, for other clubs it's just worry about stopping Cripps or reducing his influence. I doubt there's too many others that opposition coaches are worried about. And yet for us, it's who do we tag or run with or try and stop and it'll be the same this week. Witts will slaughter us in the ruck and give them first use of it. Who plays a role on Sexton...a very dangerous player as is Jack Martin. Lukosius hasn't done much yet but this'll probably be the week he gets a a run on. If we're relying on Ed Curnow to backup with another 3 or 4 this week then we're in big trouble. With no Charlie Curnow and McGovern unlikely, we simply can't be playing McKay up the ground. If Kreuzer is fit, bring him to ruck with Lobbe and play Levi up forward as well. There's no one else with pace to bring in anyway as I see it.
I'm not sure about that, to be a premium player I would think the starting point is reliability and he is at best unreliable, even ignoring his poor ball use and decision making.
Marchbank is a potential game winner. He was very good against the Tigers in round 1 last season. Hence his premium status. The fact that we play him underdone (every single time he has returned from injury thus far) is the only reason he is unreliable because he gets hurt again.
Really, at the weekend, I thought we actually lost something by having Marchbank play the intercept and ball distributer roll instead of Weitering. In terms of distributing the footy Weitering is so far ahead of Marchbank it's not even worth discussing! So I would have flipped those roles and have Marchbank being the 3rd man up to hopefully feed Weitering with distribution opportunities.
It was just another rob Peter to pay Paul scenario, like rucking McKay!
Marchbank shouldnt have played EOS on saturday. We dropped a player learning the caper but was otherwise fit in Garlett, only to play a bloke returning from injury. This is the same old, same old for us, we do it every single time in an effort to ensure injured players stay injured (see Mitch McGovern and his "hamstring" injuries which will be linked to his pre season back injury).
Leave your ruck complaints out of it. We have no fit ruckmen. EOS.
Marchbank is a potential game winner. He was very good against the Tigers in round 1 last season. Hence his premium status. The fact that we play him underdone (every single time he has returned from injury thus far) is the only reason he is unreliable because he gets hurt again.
Marchbank shouldnt have played EOS on saturday. We dropped a player learning the caper but was otherwise fit in Garlett, only to play a bloke returning from injury. This is the same old, same old for us, we do it every single time in an effort to ensure injured players stay injured (see Mitch McGovern and his "hamstring" injuries which will be linked to his pre season back injury).
Leave your ruck complaints out of it. We have no fit ruckmen. EOS.
It's all the same Thry, we rob Peter to pay Paul, and we've been doing it for a decade or more!
Surely there are ways to fix things, or at least attempt to fix things, without breaking what already works! (Like our crap game plan in 2018, designed to fix what the AFL and AFL Media said was bad!)
It's all the same Thry, we rob Peter to pay Paul, and we've been doing it for a decade or more!
Surely there are ways to fix things, or at least attempt to fix things, without breaking what already works! (Like our crap game plan in 2018, designed to fix what the AFL and AFL Media said was bad!)
IMHO, the organisations that do this are forced to.
We are simply a majority developing list of players. We cannot afford to have any of our top liners injured and they are often injured or playing under duress. It's partly what makes an injury to us so much worse. When Docherty broke down our chances of winning games were reduced by 50% immediately, simply because he is that important to our team. When it became apparent that Kreuzer was struggling to get on the park, they reduced again by another 50%. This isnt the case for a lot of teams but using Richmond as an example, look at how they have fared by simply having Martin playing much worse than he did over the last two years, Rance go down with a knee injury, and now Riewoldt with the wrist injury? They are compounding and Richmond have now been rendered uncompetitive missing Bachar Houli, and Josh Caddy too. They only beat us because we were similarly reduced. Any other side would have given them a working over in round 1. They wont win again this week either as the wheels are well and truly falling off now. We are possibly the only side in the competition with a similar number of under done players and I am willing to bet that they will finish bottom 4 if things dont start changing for them. They were playing on a lot of hard work and confidence, and are still a mentally fragile bunch.
We are stuck robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Our plight is exemplified by our ruck options. Our first choice Kreuzer is injured (again). Our Second choice Phillips is injured (again), our third choice (Lobbe) looks out of his depth, and is only on a list for that reason else he might have retired by now, our fourth choice a youngster (de Koning) is injured, and because Charlie Curnow is injured we are using our 5th choice (Casboult) as an alternative for both ruck and forward in case Lobbe is getting smashed and that means we are having to use our 6th choice (McKay) as another ruck rotation even though we need him in the forwardline, because Curnow is missing.
Thats before we even start talking about Docherty going missing. Have a look at how debilitating the injuries to Kreuzer and Curnow are to our options. They simply leave us undermannned. Lets not pretend that Kreuzer's ruck work is the reason why we choose him. He is good enough to break even in the ruck, its his presence after that makes him our first choice.
I'd assert that Phillips and Lobbe suffer because we tried to solo ruck them against superior opponents, but in tandem they may have delivered us a better result.
As much as I like McKay long term, ignoring his contested marking stats, Phillips might almost be as effective resting inside F50 yet be a far superior ruck rotation.
If we are going to rob Peter to pay Paul, to me that makes better sense, a Lose/Win seems better than a Lose/Lose!
btw., Don't take my debate wrongly, I think there are short term and long term considerations. I just not sold on burning the short term for the long term benefit, I don't think the long term benefit is anywhere near certain enough to fully scorch the present.
I'd assert that Phillips and Lobbe suffer because we tried to solo ruck them against superior opponents, but in tandem they may have delivered us a better result.
As much as I like McKay long term, ignoring his contested marking stats, Phillips might almost be as effective resting inside F50 yet be a far superior ruck rotation.
If we are going to rob Peter to pay Paul, to me that makes better sense, a Lose/Win seems better than a Lose/Lose!
btw., Don't take my debate wrongly, I think there are short term and long term considerations. I just not sold on burning the short term for the long term benefit, I don't think the long term benefit is anywhere near certain enough to fully scorch the present.
I dont know about that. Lobbe and Phillips are one trick ponies from where I sit, and they are only passable at that trick. I dont think they can play as forwards, and any attempt to do so would halve our effectiveness.
This is where Rowe might have been a better option to keep.
Anyway, I digress. Without Kreuzer we are simply towelled up too much in the ruck. Sinclair smashed us by himself on saturday with very little support.
Anyway, I digress. Without Kreuzer we are simply towelled up too much in the ruck. Sinclair smashed us by himself on saturday with very little support.
Yet Sinclair hardly got an AFLCA vote, odd isn't it?
From where I sit, very early on Sinclair set the tone that the rest of the Swans followed, he was most uncompromising towards our players!
Further, I'm gob-smacked Henney got 10 votes, that is surely coaches taking the piss! You could coin toss the difference between Ed and Henney on the day, and neither deserved 10 votes. I'd have rated Zac Jones and Cripps someway ahead of both!
I dont know about that. Lobbe and Phillips are one trick ponies from where I sit, and they are only passable at that trick. I dont think they can play as forwards, and any attempt to do so would halve our effectiveness.
This is where Rowe might have been a better option to keep.
Anyway, I digress. Without Kreuzer we are simply towelled up too much in the ruck. Sinclair smashed us by himself on saturday with very little support.
Sinclair was BOG, had 3 brownlow votes in the previous game vs the Swans....Kreuzer was his opponent...
I'll take it step further...
Bulldogs, despite that, won the centre clearances 14-8 and overall 44-30. So much for the big tapout advantage. Just have the mids in the centre square ready.
I've been banging on about that for a while now. There simply is no need for 2 ruckmen, they are just not dominant enough in the modern game. McKay as a key forward is more than capable of standing in as a ruck when required. I'd happily throw Jones, McGovern (both good leap) and even Charlie as backup rucks if required, obviously Casboult too if he is playing (which i prefer not). The amount of contests they'd have any meaningful contact in (centre square mainly) is minimal, and the rest of the ruckwork is nothing more than a push and shove like a marking contest. Very little chance of injury.
Yet the benefits of not carrying an extra ruckman around the ground, and with rotations that frees up, certainly will make a difference to your team.
Nankervis, Lycett/Ryder and Sinclair all were influential against us....you can play one ruckman only for sure but there is one caveat...they have to be Good ruckman....not C and D grade hackers...
I dont know about that. Lobbe and Phillips are one trick ponies from where I sit, and they are only passable at that trick. I dont think they can play as forwards, and any attempt to do so would halve our effectiveness.
This is where Rowe might have been a better option to keep.
Anyway, I digress. Without Kreuzer we are simply towelled up too much in the ruck. Sinclair smashed us by himself on saturday with very little support.
We should have targetted Preuss hard.....he's wasting his time at the Dees.
Young, huge and has mongrel.
Agree fly...it doesn't seem to be an area we've worried about too much in the last 3-4 years (draft or trade period) despite Kreuzer and Phillips being injured all the time. We are infinitely better when Kreuzer is in the team. Not sure we've got too many tall defensive options to be ripping Jones out of there and running him in the ruck and McKay just gets pushed off the ball too often in ruck contests. Despite his kicking, his best value to us right now is as a marking forward.
Nankervis, Lycett/Ryder and Sinclair all were influential against us....you can play one ruckman only for sure but there is one caveat...they have to be Good ruckman....not C and D grade hackers...
....or more to the point, no point playing 2 c-grade ruckmen.
WTF we didn't chase Preuss hard beggars belief. Perfect fit for us.
Marchbank is a potential game winner. He was very good against the Tigers in round 1 last season. Hence his premium status. The fact that we play him underdone (every single time he has returned from injury thus far) is the only reason he is unreliable because he gets hurt again.
Marchbank shouldnt have played EOS on saturday. We dropped a player learning the caper but was otherwise fit in Garlett, only to play a bloke returning from injury. This is the same old, same old for us, we do it every single time in an effort to ensure injured players stay injured (see Mitch McGovern and his "hamstring" injuries which will be linked to his pre season back injury).
Leave your ruck complaints out of it. We have no fit ruckmen. EOS.
Actually, it looks like we now have 3 'fit' ruckmen. Exactly how fit they are is an interesting conundrum, but all three will be available.
Last year Kreuzer got smashed by Witt, but he wasn't 100% fit. It the game in Qld Kreuzer didn't play. I think we rucked Lobbe that day. Phillips played in neither through injury.
Who we play this time will be very interesting.
As for Preuss, the only reason I can think of as to why we were not interested is the potential in de Koning. And he does have it in spades. Also there are a number of really good ruck prospects coming through the U18's.
Actually, it looks like we now have 3 'fit' ruckmen. Exactly how fit they are is an interesting conundrum, but all three will be available.
Last year Kreuzer got smashed by Witt, but he wasn't 100% fit. It the game in Qld Kreuzer didn't play. I think we rucked Lobbe that day. Phillips played in neither through injury.
Who we play this time will be very interesting.
As for Preuss, the only reason I can think of as to why we were not interested is the potential in de Koning. And he does have it in spades. Also there are a number of really good ruck prospects coming through the U18's.
I can think of another. He didn't want to come here, and only wanted to go to Melbourne.
Actually, it looks like we now have 3 'fit' ruckmen. Exactly how fit they are is an interesting conundrum, but all three will be available.
Last year Kreuzer got smashed by Witt, but he wasn't 100% fit. It the game in Qld Kreuzer didn't play. I think we rucked Lobbe that day. Phillips played in neither through injury.
Who we play this time will be very interesting.
As for Preuss, the only reason I can think of as to why we were not interested is the potential in de Koning. And he does have it in spades. Also there are a number of really good ruck prospects coming through the U18's.
Kreuzer pulled out late in round 2 last year. Witt played on Casboult.
I've been banging on about that for a while now. There simply is no need for 2 ruckmen, they are just not dominant enough in the modern game. McKay as a key forward is more than capable of standing in as a ruck when required. I'd happily throw Jones, McGovern (both good leap) and even Charlie as backup rucks if required, obviously Casboult too if he is playing (which i prefer not). The amount of contests they'd have any meaningful contact in (centre square mainly) is minimal, and the rest of the ruckwork is nothing more than a push and shove like a marking contest. Very little chance of injury.
Yet the benefits of not carrying an extra ruckman around the ground, and with rotations that frees up, certainly will make a difference to your team.
Yes, totally agree on that.
Money and premiership potential is probably why Preuss chose Melbourne...Dees were the hottest club on the rise and with May coming as well they looked good things.
Not sure how Pruess expected it to work with Gawn.....unless he thought ruck combos like Lycett/Vardy and Grundy/Cox were going to be the next fad after both played in the GF.
Its interesting how Collingwood are going with 3 ruckman in the senior team....
Two words, must win.
That is all, Go Blues.
Money and premiership potential is probably why Preuss chose Melbourne...Dees were the hottest club on the rise and with May coming as well they looked good things.
Not sure how Pruess expected it to work with Gawn.....unless he thought ruck combos like Lycett/Vardy and Grundy/Cox were going to be the next fad after both played in the GF.
Its interesting how Collingwood are going with 3 ruckman in the senior team....
Grundy plays like a midfielder, Cox is tall comic relief and they have done to Moore what we did to Rowe. Unless you are talking roughead who is more defender than ruck.
Money and premiership potential is probably why Preuss chose Melbourne...Dees were the hottest club on the rise and with May coming as well they looked good things.
Not sure how Pruess expected it to work with Gawn.....unless he thought ruck combos like Lycett/Vardy and Grundy/Cox were going to be the next fad after both played in the GF.
Its interesting how Collingwood are going with 3 ruckman in the senior team....
I don’t think it matters how many ruckmen you play provided they can (a) at least neutralise the opposition rucks and (b) be effective in another role. Kreuzer excepted (in terms of ruckwork and around the ground presence), ours aren’t particularly good at either, although Casboult gave a fairly good impression of second ruck/key forward (apart from his poster) on Saturday.
Sinclair was BOG, had 3 brownlow votes in the previous game vs the Swans....Kreuzer was his opponent...
I’m not sure what the umpires were on, but I’d like some :)
Sinclair got a couple of easy goals but Kreuzer towelled him up in the ruck (37 hitouts to 26) and was equally effective around the ground. I guess Sinclair got the votes because the Swans midfield was well on top.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-04-09/stats-files-how-a-remodeled-defence-has-sparked-suns-rise
Interesting read on this week's opponent and fellow cellar-dweller.
I’m not sure what the umpires were on, but I’d like some :)
Sinclair got a couple of easy goals but Kreuzer towelled him up in the ruck (37 hitouts to 26) and was equally effective around the ground. I guess Sinclair got the votes because the Swans midfield was well on top.
Ignore the tap stats they are meaningless, I haven't looked but if you add a layer of complexity and look at taps to advantage they can be more meaningful.
The other stat worth looking at is direct scores from center clearances, and how much involvement each ruck had in that chain of events. In 2019 under the new rules this stat is really telling the story of games! In 2019 something like 40% of scores come from center breaks, when historically it's been just 10%.
We would expect SpecialK to better Sinclair around the ground, but in recent times Sinclair's 2nd and 3rd efforts have greatly improved.
Is it a coincidence Sinclair is coached by a former ruck option?
Is it a further coincidence Liam Jones had such sterling VFL form when being coached by Fraser?
Is it also a coincidence Nankervis came out of the Longmire managed system?
who's our ruck coach? Hamish....?
who's our ruck coach? Hamish....?
Correct Hamish McIntosh, but we also have Fraser and Rocca on staff.
WTF we didn't chase Preuss hard beggars belief. Perfect fit for us.
We were too busy resigning Polson
Preuss hasn't a fired a shot yet, he could be anything but it's only a 50/50 proposition!
Really what fans want is a now proposition, and I'm not sure Preuss is that at all!
Long term, De Koning and McKay might well have him covered, but that is a long term issue.
On the ruck question, I'm not sure why it's considered such an issue for this game. Witts will probably have more hitouts than anyone we put against him, but we are consistently strong on the clearance front (both in the centre and at stoppages) and I expect we'll have them covered there. Am I missing something here?
So, we'll get more clearances, but the issue is about what actually constitutes "clearing" the ball for us. Our delivery forward has been extremely poor and that's nothing to do with who is rucking. We either bomb it in, or poorly attempt to execute more precise delivery.
2 problems with this. First, whilst Harry has done extremely well, given the few clean deliveries he gets, to mark and put himself in a position to goal, we're not going to kick enough through him and we're presently light-on for other tall options who can mark and kick straight (looking at you Levi).
Second, we are not giving ourselves the opportunity to score the other way - by locking it in F50 when the ball (more often than not) simply spills. If we let the GC half-backs just run it straight back out, as we did with McVeigh, Lloyd, Mills, Jones last week, we're going to struggle.
Not too worried about our defence. I think it's looking pretty good, TBH.
On the ruck question, I'm not sure why it's considered such an issue for this game. Witts will probably have more hitouts than anyone we put against him, but we are consistently strong on the clearance front (both in the centre and at stoppages) and I expect we'll have them covered there. Am I missing something here?
So, we'll get more clearances, but the issue is about what actually constitutes "clearing" the ball for us. Our delivery forward has been extremely poor and that's nothing to do with who is rucking. We either bomb it in, or poorly execute more precise delivery.
2 problems with this. First, whilst Harry has done extremely well, given the few clean deliveries he gets, to mark and put himself in a position to goal, we're not going to kick enough through him. Second, we are not giving ourselves the opportunity score the other way - by locking it in F50 when the ball (more often than not) simply spills. If we let the GC half-backs just run it straight back out, as we did with McVeigh, Lloyd, Mills, Jones last week, we're going to struggle.
Not too worried about our defence. I think it's looking pretty good, TBH.
x2, a nice summary of the situation.
The only thing I can add, is that even in losing the taps to Witts, good rucks will sway the balance of clearances with 2nd and 3rd efforts.
I have to wonder if our rucks have simply been told not to get in Cripps way, but I'm sure Cripps would appreciate a block or two from the ruckmen every now and then!
x2, a nice summary of the situation.
The only thing I can add, is that even in losing the taps to Witts, good rucks will sway the balance of clearances with 2nd and 3rd efforts.
I have to wonder if our rucks have simply been told not to get in Cripps way, but I'm sure Cripps would appreciate a block or two from the ruckmen every now and then!
Good point, LP. Kreuzer obviously the best option in that regard. Let's hope he gets up.
Good point, LP. Kreuzer obviously the best option in that regard. Let's hope he gets up.
We make excuses at times for our weak ruck options, Casboult was OK, McKay is just a kid, Phillips can't get a run at it.
For perspective have a think about Wayne Carey's comments on Ben Brown, note I don't think Carey is necessarily an oracle of these matters.
Now I suspect Brown has our forward pack well and truly covered, other than perhaps The Gov he'd be a clear win KPF for us as well as a useful 2nd ruck option. But Carey tore strips off Brown after last weekend claiming that Brown has never laid a tackle, and in spite of all Brown's good F50 efforts it's just not good enough by AFL standards to have no other aspect to his game!
What the feck is the excuse for our blokes?
They don't even have the F50 game to cover for he lack of other deficiencies, they should be working twice as hard around the ground!
Unlike others, I don't see this as as some kind of "Bolton lives or dies" type match. I think it's 50/50. The two teams are even in terms of potential to win/lose.
Suns by 3 points.
Unlike others, I don't see this as as some kind of "Bolton lives or dies" type match. I think it's 50/50. The two teams are even in terms of potential to win/lose.
Suns by 3 points.
Yes, with SpecialK still out or even if they play him underdone, I think the good form of Witts coupled with 2MP will be hard for us to deal with.
Although I concede even when in bad form Weitering seemed to match up quite well on 2MP in the past.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-09/kreuzer-vying-for-selection
SpecialK's best partial season came in 2011 when they over-cooked him in the VFL before letting him return against the Swans after the long break. I'd never before seen a Ruck/KPP have such an impact, it was like watching a 200cm Ablett Jnr run through AFL opponents like they were training tackle bags!
I realise that was a long time back in time, but it sort of indicates his mindset towards his footy.
Many of you will remember that game!
The biggest thorn in our side vs GC of recent years has been Lynch, he’s absolutely ripped us apart. Down the other end, we have ( hopefully) 3 big bodies who need to be covered. Their main gorilla tamer has also headed south. Don’t care how good you are or how much you spread the load, losing 2 key position heavyweights will eventually catch up with you.
We know we can beat them and so this is one where we can go in with confidence.
(From that 35 pt victory July 2018 : Possible Outs Lamb, Rowe, Byrne, Pickett, Silvagni, Kennedy CCurnow, Lang Wright. Possible Ins Jones, Walsh, Newman, Fisher, Casboult, Sedderfield, McGovern, Gibbons, Plowman)
GC are playing a different brand of footy and look better without Lynch, more spread of goalkickers and their no name mids are getting under the guard of the teams they have played. They are using players like Burgess and Wright to provide a contest and dragging key defenders away from play, we need to put the clamps on Harbrow too, maybe Polson can be used to nullify him.
Witts will win the ruck but we need to not underestimate Fiorini, Martin, Bowes etc......Swallow is playing a different role now from the little bits I have watched and is providing the blocks/shepherds etc and manning up opposing teams better players rather than chasing kicks himself.
They will be a lot quicker especially on their home deck and we better not be top heavy and include slower players.....sunny and 25 degrees so we dont need an oversupply of ruckman to subdue Witts. I'd rather we have plenty of mids to rotate and shark the hitouts than waste our time trying to win the ruck duels...
Very winnable game IMO and if we are the real deal in terms of progressing we should win well and not just fall over the line......this a game we can kick 100 points
and kick start the season....if we can match the GC effort our extra talent should be the difference.
Don't assume we've done our homework EB.... I expect what worked for the suns in rounds 1-3 to work again, plus to get torched by some no name. No name to us, familiar to the rest of the AFL. Our scouting and prep work is poor. There's any easy fix for the club to address quickly if they cared to review such things
Don't assume we've done our homework EB.... I expect what worked for the suns in rounds 1-3 to work again, plus to get torched by some no name. No name to us, familiar to the rest of the AFL. Our scouting and prep work is poor. There's any easy fix for the club to address quickly if they cared to review such things
Prof..Agree our preparation and scouting leaves a lot to be desired as does selection at times....you would think this being a winnable game and given our situation we
would be doubling our efforts to get it right. GC live out of the limelight a bit and their players are not that well known so I hope we have put the work in and kids like Sexton
who is/was the comps leading goalkicker get the attention they deserve and its not one of those games that some no name player/s beat up on us because we didnt do our due diligence.
townsend....I would've thought the same thing this season about GC after losing May and then having Rory Thompson go down. But in Round 2 they knocked Fremantle off....and Freo were coming off a huge win and had a forward line set up that included Hogan, Lobbe, McCarthy and Taberner. If not for a last gasp loss to St Kilda in Round 1, GC could be undefeated. They are looking much more dangerous and as EB mentioned, not so heavily focused on Lynch. Alex Sexton is very dangerous and has kicked multiple bags this year and it's hard to see a real good match up for him. Normally I'd suggest Plowman but his form this year has been ordinary at best.
townsend....I would've thought the same thing this season about GC after losing May and then having Rory Thompson go down. But in Round 2 they knocked Fremantle off....and Freo were coming off a huge win and had a forward line set up that included Hogan, Lobbe, McCarthy and Taberner. If not for a last gasp loss to St Kilda in Round 1, GC could be undefeated. They are looking much more dangerous and as EB mentioned, not so heavily focused on Lynch. Alex Sexton is very dangerous and has kicked multiple bags this year and it's hard to see a real good match up for him. Normally I'd suggest Plowman but his form this year has been ordinary at best.
Surfie...AFL.com did a review on players who need to lift for each club...our player reviewed was Plowman....Sexton may be a bit slippery for him...
They got that one right EB but he's not the only one. But yep, can't see a good match up for him...he'd be a bit too tall for Newman and probably too nimble for Marchbank.
Current odds are Suns $1.68, Blues $2.20. On Pick A Winner, Carey is tipping Carlton, Brown tips the Suns. Both saying we've played some good footy this season.
They got that one right EB but he's not the only one. But yep, can't see a good match up for him...he'd be a bit too tall for Newman and probably too nimble for Marchbank.
Sexton; 186cm and 84kg. Newman; 186cm and 84kg.
Plowman has played some great footy this season, but in patches. We need him to eliminate those periods where he is well off his best. I’d challenge him with the Sexton match up and have Daisy as back up.
Again, the defence/defenders are the least of our problems!
DJC....hate using footy cliches but sometimes there are blokes that can just "play taller" and Sexton is one of those. Plowman probably gets first crack at him but both he and Newman need to pick up their game.
Alex Sexton averages less than 1 goal per game. Playing your entire career at the Suns would not help matters I guess........
His current form seems to have emerged from nowhere.
DJC....hate using footy cliches but sometimes there are blokes that can just "play taller" and Sexton is one of those. Plowman probably gets first crack at him but both he and Newman need to pick up their game.
WAS, win the midfield battle, takes the heat off the defenders....and the forwards need to extract a digit too. A few tackles wouldn't go astray!!
Alex Sexton averages less than 1 goal per game. Playing your entire career at the Suns would not help matters I guess........
His current form seems to have emerged from nowhere.
And guess what - the bloke is 25 and has played exactly 100 games - the sweet spot!
And guess what - the bloke is 25 and has played exactly 100 games - the sweet spot!
If we can keep someone like Buddy to 2 goals, surely our back 6 can handle Sexton ?
If we can keep someone like Buddy to 2 goals, surely our back 6 can handle Sexton ?
Sexton is a known unknown, Buddy is a known known.
At this stage we do not know how our D50 will handle him.
Sexton is a known unknown, Buddy is a known known.
At this stage we do not know how our D50 will handle him.
He played in both games last season. R2 he kicked 0.0 and from the stats looked like he did sfa. In R19 he kicked 0.3. I'm not sure he's an unknown. I think there's enough in our previous games, plus 3 games this season, to know what he's like with and without Lynch.
I do note he's currently 2nd in the Coleman Medal.
In the context of being aware of your opposition, kids are known unknowns until they attract significant attention or they get 2 or 3 years and 40 or 50 games into their career.
Once all the other clubs have had a crack at them a couple of times, and video analysis has exposed all their strengths and weaknesses, then I think they become known knowns.
A good example is Schache, he's only really becoming a known known.
Sorry for the heavy handed use of Rumsfeldian phrases.
Liam Jones is pedantic about preparation, he heavily analyses his opponents in the week prior to a match, but he won't have much material to work with for a few GC forwards so I wonder how that may affect our D50 performance this week. The sample size isn't big enough yet for their habits to be exposed.
Alex Sexton averages less than 1 goal per game. Playing your entire career at the Suns would not help matters I guess........
His current form seems to have emerged from nowhere.
For a comparison, its worth looking at Andrew Walker and how he emerged in a similar capacity once Fevola left us.
This is no different. Goodbye Lynch, lo and behold a smart athletic forward all of a sudden is kicking goals.
Tim Membrey from St. Kilda has his 5 minutes of fame too, and then he got worked out.
For a comparison, its worth looking at Andrew Walker and how he emerged in a similar capacity once Fevola left us.
This is no different. Goodbye Lynch, lo and behold a smart athletic forward all of a sudden is kicking goals.
Tim Membrey from St. Kilda has his 5 minutes of fame too, and then he got worked out.
Let's hope Sexton's 5 minutes have elapsed.
Let's hope Sexton's 5 minutes have elapsed.
Let's hope so, but Walker kicked 56 goals in 2011.
For a comparison, its worth looking at Andrew Walker and how he emerged in a similar capacity once Fevola left us.
This is a reality of having too many of a type and not a balanced list, only one top dog is needed in each role with a suitable backup somewhere.
It's the argument I've been making about having McKay, McGovern and Charlie all in the one F50!
Almost weekly our MC delivers some irony, we are overfeed in some areas and starving in others!
In Curnow, Silvagni, Stocker, Kennedy
Out None
In Curnow, Silvagni, Stocker, Kennedy
Out None
Cant see Stocker playing????
Agreed EB and I reckon Charlie will have question marks too? And still no Kruezer.
I can't see them risking McGovern and Charlie Curnow.
Maybe just Kennedy/Silvagni in for Polson/O'Brien out.
Agreed EB and I reckon Charlie will have question marks too? And still no Kruezer.
I can't see them risking McGovern and Charlie Curnow.
Maybe just Kennedy/Silvagni in for Polson/O'Brien out.
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We still need someone in for McGovern......
townsend....if McGovern goes out and Curnow doesn't come up, I reckon they'll play McKay permanently forward along with Casboult who'll pinch hit in the ruck. Fingers crossed McGovern is fit but if he missed most of the second half last week it's hard to see them taking a risk on a hamstring on an interstate trip. Silvagni might play the 3rd tall forward.
In Curnow, Silvagni, Stocker, Kennedy
Out None
If Curnow was good to go, hard to imagine why you'd name Meat.
Lobbe playing his 100th game, Charlie his 50th. Well done and good luck to both.
Being a Sunday game and extended bench we're keeping options open. No chance McKay, McGovern, Casboult and Charlie are playing in the same team. You'd give up if they all did.
Being a Sunday game and extended bench we're keeping options open. No chance McKay, McGovern, Casboult and Charlie are playing in the same team. You'd give up if they all did.
Why? McKay and Curnow are quick for their size.
Why? McKay and Curnow are quick for their size.
Still KP players, they're not going to move like a small off the mark. We can all work that one out.
Still KP players, they're not going to move like a small off the mark. We can all work that one out.
Hawthorn won 3 flags with a Ruckman plus Hale, Roughead, Franklin and Gunston.
Hawthorn won 3 flags with a Ruckman plus Hale, Roughead, Franklin and Gunston.
How many talls did tigers have when they won it?
Hawthorn won 3 flags with a Ruckman plus Hale, Roughead, Franklin and Gunston.
Gunston is not a genuine KP player. Closer to Breust than Roughhead. Plus as was the thing back then they subbed Max Bailey at half time.
Gunston is not a genuine KP player. Closer to Breust than Roughhead. Plus as was the thing back then they subbed Max Bailey at half time.
Fair points but I don't view Charlie as your typical key forward.
McKay moves well too, and not just for a big man.
In Curnow, Silvagni, Stocker, Kennedy
Out None
CARLTONB: Kade Simpson, Jacob Weitering, Dale Thomas
HB: Lachie Plowman, Liam Jones, Caleb Marchbank
C: Sam Petrevski-Seton, Patrick Cripps, Zac Fisher
HF: Marc Murphy, Mitch McGovern, Sam Walsh
F: Levi Casboult, Harry McKay, Paddy Dow
R: Matthew Lobbe, Ed Curnow, Will Setterfield
Int: Matthew Kennedy, Nic Newman, Cameron Polson, Lochie O'Brien, Jack Silvagni, Charlie Curnow, Liam Stocker, Michael Gibbons (Four to be omitted)
IN: Matthew Kennedy, Jack Silvagni, Charlie Curnow, Liam Stocker
NEW: Liam Stocker
GOLD COAST SUNS
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Sam Collins, Charlie Ballard
HB: Jesse Joyce, Jack Hombsch, Pearce Hanley
C: Lachie Weller, Brayden Fiorini, Wil Powell
HF: Alex Sexton, Peter Wright, Nick Holman
F: Darcy MacPherson, Chris Burgess, Jack Martin
R: Jarrod Witts, Touk Miller, David Swallow
Int: Will Brodie, Jack Bowes, Sam Day, George Horlin-Smith, Jack Lukosius, Anthony Miles, Jordan Murdoch, Aaron Young (Four to be omitted)
IN: Will Brodie, Sam Day, George Horlin-Smith, Aaron Young
Why would we name a draftee who was deemed not up to a JLT game nor has played a VFL game? Is our depth seriously so poor or is this some kind of inducement for the kid?
Fair points but I don't view Charlie as your typical key forward.
McKay moves well too, and not just for a big man.
Agree, but we play him like that. The sooner he plays on-ball, resting up forward, the better.
Agree, but we play him like that. The sooner he plays on-ball, resting up forward, the better.
Too right.
If Charlie and Mitch are fit, Casboult has to come out. Want to see Silvagni and Kennedy for any of Polson, Gibbons or LOB too.
Reckon one of Charlie and McGovern wont play and Casboult will keep his place......we want fit players up there in the heat too.
They might include Brodie to help Bowes and Holman rotate on Cripps..
Polson to play on Harbrow...
Why would we name a draftee who was deemed not up to a JLT game nor has played a VFL game? Is our depth seriously so poor or is this some kind of inducement for the kid?
He's been one of the emergencies the past few weeks - I guess this week is no different.
I really hope they don't take him to GC and cost him a game this weekend.
Why would we name a draftee who was deemed not up to a JLT game nor has played a VFL game? Is our depth seriously so poor or is this some kind of inducement for the kid?
He was the travelling emergency to Port Adelaide too.
Maybe its about teaching the youngsters how to travel interstate for games so when they do get the nod, they are a little more acclimatised to travelling?
I know its been such a long time that we have seen such forward planning from our football club that I too struggle to accept this novel idea.
Reckon one of Charlie and McGovern wont play and Casboult will keep his place......we want fit players up there in the heat too.
They might include Brodie to help Bowes and Holman rotate on Cripps..
Polson to play on Harbrow...
Play or did you mean run around in circles behind him.....get 4-7 touches.....stuff up 60% of them.
WTF are continuing to preserve with guys that show SFA.
Surely he cant be selected again after another typical Polson game last week.
Play or did you mean run around in circles behind him.....get 4-7 touches.....stuff up 60% of them.
WTF are continuing to preserve with guys that show SFA.
Surely he cant be selected again after another typical Polson game last week.
Weller an out for the Suns is good for us. If we can rove the Witts hitouts, we should win the middle.
Play or did you mean run around in circles behind him.....get 4-7 touches.....stuff up 60% of them.
WTF are continuing to preserve with guys that show SFA.
Surely he cant be selected again after another typical Polson game last week.
No fan of Polson as you know but he is a coaches fav and will probably get a game ahead of Gibbons who isnt a defensive player.....
Harbrow is a player we need to shut down and ideally suited to Polson size wise...if there was ever a player and a game made for Polson its this one.
If he fails to make an impact this week Id see him in the NB's for a while especially with players like Williamson, Lang etc on the comeback trail...
Weller an out for the Suns is good for us. If we can rove the Witts hitouts, we should win the middle.
Wouldnt underestimate the GC kids in the middle...Bowes has fixed up Fyfe and Bontempelli in recent weeks and they are probably going to have us for leg speed.
We need to be well up at halftime IMO as they should enjoy the heat more more than us the further the game goes.
Saying all that I expect a 5 goal win or better given they dont have Lynch, May, Hall and are also coached by a newbie in Dew who Bolton should have covered in the box
given he is more experienced.
Curnow for Poulson only change. McGovern must not be playing otherwise we are far too top heavy. Of course there is nothing to say that both Charlie and Gov don’t come up. Interesting to know who was on the plane up......
Surely one of the talls will be a late out, otherwise the Suns defenders will have a field day when the ball hits the ground.
I thought we were too tall last week. This week we are just taking the piss surely.
Same thing happened last year. I reckon we got to about round 12 and i was happy with the team balance after final teams were announced a total of 2 times. Surprise, we struggled to win a game.
Have we learned nothing?
Emergencies:
Jsos, Kennedy, polson and stocker
Curnow for Poulson only change. McGovern must not be playing otherwise we are far too top heavy. Of course there is nothing to say that both Charlie and Gov don’t come up. Interesting to know who was on the plane up......
No 40 is a very lucky man IMO
No 40 is a very lucky man IMO
Yep, but I hope they don't keep hiding him in dead man's corner, & actually give him a run in the middle where he won his 2 Liston medals ;)
Yep, but I hope they don't keep hiding him in dead man's corner, & actually give him a run in the middle where he won his 2 Liston medals ;)
Gibbons looks just too slow and too small to repeat that at AFL level, and he seems miles off on the aerobic factor even hanging around in the pocket!
Yep, but I hope they don't keep hiding him in dead man's corner, & actually give him a run in the middle where he won his 2 Liston medals ;)
Agree....25 degree heat and sunny so we will need a lot of rotations, reckon Gibbons can take his turn in the middle.....
Yep, but I hope they don't keep hiding him in dead man's corner, & actually give him a run in the middle where he won his 2 Liston medals ;)
From what I’ve seen, he has spent as much time in the midfield as he has in the forward line.
The fact of the matter is that there is a huge difference between VFL and AFL. At best, Gibbons is in the process of adjusting to AFL tempo and pressure; at worst, he will be an important addition to our NBs team.
No 40 is a very lucky man IMO
And LOB?
Time to start picking teams to win not gifting games for development. Don’t think I can take another year of “promises “ or near losses like last week when we played 3-4 passengers just to get games into them
Anyone know who the travelling Willbury, sorry emergency, is?
Anyone know who the travelling Willbury, sorry emergency, is?
Stocker, jsos, Kennedy and polson are all listed emergencies. We wont find out until the vfl game starts who definitely isnt playing.
Agree....25 degree heat and sunny so we will need a lot of rotations, reckon Gibbons can take his turn in the middle.....
So not a great time to go in with so many talls then. >:(
So not a great time to go in with so many talls then. >:(
When in Rome....
Anyone know who the travelling Willbury, sorry emergency, is?
If they have someone (Gov or Charlie) who they are doubtful about, they’ll take 2. I’d say Kennedy and Jack.
Anyone know who the travelling Willbury, sorry emergency, is?
Hope he doesn't need "handling with care"!
Hope he doesn't need "handling with care"!
If he does, then it could be 'the end of the line' for bolton
Bolton said that Casboult is basically in the team as back up ruck so that McKay can spend most (if not all) of his time as a key forward.
So we are playing 2 rucks, as well as a tall forward line.
Bolton said that Casboult is basically in the team as back up ruck so that McKay can spend most (if not all) of his time as a key forward.
So we are playing 2 rucks, as well as a tall forward line.
Yes, but as others have said - all three of our tall forwards are very mobile.....wish they'd just give Charlie a roving commission....he can be more damaging for us playing as high as the wing and using his engine across the park.
Yes, but as others have said - all three of our tall forwards are very mobile.....wish they'd just give Charlie a roving commission....he can be more damaging for us playing as high as the wing and using his engine across the park.
There is a difference between having tall forwards who are mobile, and having actual midfielders.
There is a difference between having tall forwards who are mobile, and having actual midfielders.
Yes indeed, and Charlie certainly has the capacity to play as a mid, not that I'd suggest he does other than in spurts.
The point being that all three of our tall forwards can harass, chase and tackle well.
Just need to see them lead!
(and the other 3 forwards contribute in a meaningful way too - I'd be giving Garlett a crack up forward if today doesn't pan out)
I also note Lobbe at 200cm will ruck against Witts at 208cm.
That's a big difference, even if not the be all and end all.
We really need to identify (for the future) a 205cm ++ ruckman.
I also note Lobbe at 200cm will ruck against Witts at 208cm.
That's a big difference, even if not the be all and end all.
We really need to identify (for the future) a 205cm ++ ruckman.
Their height is a pointless measure, firstly many of those differences can evaporate dependant on things like arm length and jump stats. Secondly, a good aggressive ruck will make a tall meek ruck look worthless no matter what the height difference, and a ultra mobile aggressive ruck with good 2nd and 3rd efforts will join the chain of disposals and make a tall slow tap ruck look like a traffic cone.
We don't need another Warnock, ever!
Their height is a pointless measure, firstly many of those differences can evaporate dependant on things like arm length and jump stats. Secondly, a good aggressive ruck will make a tall meek ruck look worthless no matter what the height difference, and a ultra mobile aggressive ruck with good 2nd and 3rd efforts will join the chain of disposals and make a tall slow tap ruck look like a traffic cone.
We don't need another Warnock, ever!
Far from pointless or meaningless - and, as I stated, not the be all and end all.
But the taller bloke is very likely to have a considerably bigger wingspan too - do the maths!
Witts - 208, Gawn - 208, Preuss - 206, Sandi - 211.
All of those blokes are as mobile as any of our rucks, arguably better in the air and (Special K aside) on a par in terms of 2nd and 3rd efforts.
Far from pointless or meaningless - and, as I stated, not the be all and end all.
But the taller bloke is very likely to have a considerably bigger wingspan too - do the maths!
Witts - 208, Gawn - 208, Preuss - 206, Sandi - 211.
All of those blokes are as mobile as any of our rucks, arguably better in the air and (Special K aside) on a par in terms of 2nd and 3rd efforts.
They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning. On 2nd or 3rd efforts Preuss isn't even in the same league, he's awful, even worse than Sandilands who has almost nothing besides taps and marking! Sandilands brings intimidation, which elevates everything else, Preuss doesn't even have that!
Preuss reminds me of Ziebell, in that he has an angel behind the scenes somewhere who is pumping up his tyres based on a couple of nice VFL performances, not to say he won't make it but his reputation is unjustified!
Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!
And again,
Warnock 206cm, case closed!
They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning.
Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!
And again, Warnock 206cm, case closed!
I think sometime last season Gawn rated Krooz as the best ruckman he's played against. Quite a compliment.
EDIT : https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/15/melbourne-star-max-gawn-names-the-best-ruckman-he-has-faced/
I think sometime last season Gawn rated Krooz as the best ruckman he's played against. Quite a compliment.
EDIT : https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/08/15/melbourne-star-max-gawn-names-the-best-ruckman-he-has-faced/
Nice link PaulP
Grundy 202cm or Ryder 196cm, miles ahead of the vast majority of the taller options!
Cox 211cm, if height was the only thing he'd be a A-Grade ruck option, but despite his height he barely matches it in the ruck with Casboult! Guys like SpecialK and those two named above make Cox their bitch in the center and around the ground!
They are nowhere near as mobile as SpecialK, not even as mobile as Phillips or De Koning. On 2nd or 3rd efforts Preuss isn't even in the same league, he's awful, even worse than Sandilands who has almost nothing besides taps and marking! Sandilands brings intimidation, which elevates everything else, Preuss doesn't even have that!
Preuss reminds me of Ziebell, in that he has an angel behind the scenes somewhere who is pumping up his tyres based on a couple of nice VFL performances, not to say he won't make it but his reputation is unjustified!
Gawn is the best of that lot and he described his last head to head with SpecialK as being run into the ground, the hardest opponent Gawn has even faced!
And again, Warnock 206cm, case closed!
Case closed because you cited one 206cm bloke who was a dud?
Gee, hope you're not a scientist.
And might I remind you Matty K isn't out there (and hasn't been in 2019 yet) and he played 12 games in 2018 (in many of which when he was clearly injured or unfit or both).
Poulson and Kennedy are the traveling extras. At least 1 will be included I’m sure.
Ummmm, maybe not. As selected. We are VERY top heavy! Charlie to spend more time on the ball, maybe alternating with Cripps up forward??
Ummmm, maybe not. As selected. We are VERY top heavy! Charlie to spend more time on the ball, maybe alternating with Cripps up forward??
Suns are very small down back, maybe looking to exploit that area, would want to be well in front at half time given its a warm day and the Suns are
are a quick team and likely to run out the game well..
Suns are very small down back, maybe looking to exploit that area, would want to be well in front at half time given its a warm day and the Suns are
are a quick team and likely to run out the game well..
^ this