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Title: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 18, 2017, 08:22:00 pm
This Saturday at Preston the Blues will play Sandy.

NORTHERN BLUES v. SANDRINGHAM

Round 6 - 20/05/2017

02:00

Preston City Oval

Northern Blues

B: 5. B. Smedts, 43. S. White, 70. T. Williamson
HB: 37. H. Macreadie, 48. K. Jaksch, 13. C. O'Shea
C: 51. J.  Lamb, 72. S.  Kerridge, 62. B.  Boekhorst
HF: 45. D. Thomas, 14. L. Jones, 49. D. Armfield
F: 24. R. Palmer, 19. H. McKay, 55. L. Sumner
R: 15. A. Phillips, 32. N. Graham, 60. D. Cuningham
Int: 80. M. Korcheck, 47. C. Sheehan, 76. K. LeBois, 8. L. Russell, 6. G. Strachan, 1. T. Wilson, 50. D. Gorringe, 31. P. Kerr, 56. A. Gallucci, 7. D. Buckley, 67. C. Polson, 20. D. Stevens

23P: 9. J. Corboy

This line-up looks about as strong as we can field in the VFL, but the 3 emergencies will almost certainly not be there. They will be making the trip to Perth, even though they may not play at all.
Russell and Wilson will almost certainly play, meaning there WILL be a couple of guys running around on the development game. I doubt Buckley will be one of them: he has been playing well. Polson and LeBois are more likely.

Keppel and Pickett are out, which is pity.

Sandringham

B: 78. J. Baker-Thomas, 73. N. Coughlan, 1. D. Weickhardt
HB: 75. B. Rice, 37. H. Goddard, 65. B. White
C: 2. K.  Answerth, 63. N.  O'Kearney, 3. L.  Verma
HF: 32. J. Lonie, 36. J. Battle, 34. B. Long
F: 62. R. Connellan, 16. M. Hayes, 9. M. Cook
R: 69. J. Holmes, 33. N. Freeman, 76. N. Wright
Int: 40. J. Bruce, 6. J. Fisscher, 41. D. Minchington, 71. L. Pierce, 49. J. Sziller, 7. C. Rich, 26. J. Wallace, 80. S. Savage

23P: 25. N. Scagliarini
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 18, 2017, 08:30:31 pm
NORTHERN BLUES v. SANDRINGHAM

Round 6 - 20/05/2017

11:00

Preston City Oval

Northern Blues

B: 4. S. Russell, 34. J. Glass-McCasker, 22. C. McCabe
HB: 47. C. Sheehan, 25. K. Keppel, 6. G. Strachan
C: 3. K.  Declase, 20. D.  Stevens, 67. C.  Polson
HF: 76. K. LeBois, 50. D. Gorringe, 56. A. Gallucci
F: 80. M. Korcheck, 29. B. Casley, 52. S. Fowler
R: 27. A. Milham, 35. M. Stavrou, 21. C. Barrett
Int: 63. R. Maibaum, 41. S. Glover, 53. H. Payne, 16. J. Thorpe, 46. J. Bradley, 64. L. Collins, 17. S. Peet, 57. F. Pearce, 23. C. Adams, 54. M. Romero, 44. W. Krithararis

That Keppel, Declase, Stevens and Stavrou cannot get a senior VFL game shows just how much more depth we have this year compared to last. There were times last year when there were not as many Carlton players named in the VFL seniors as there are in this side.
Let's hope they produce!

Sandringham

B: 5. R. Iudica, 45. S. Willatt, 50. R. Atkins
HB: 14. T. Grace, 4. T. Laumets, 22. C. Larkin
C: 51. B.  Bailey, 26. J.  Wallace, 46. R.  Hayward
HF: 7. C. Rich, 6. J. Fisscher, 11. J. Matera
F: 12. K. Lopo, 19. J. Dobosz, 27. N. Smith
R: 60. R. Monkhorst, 28. C. Cathcart, 17. N. Pavlou
Int: 58. R. Pierce, 78. J. Baker-Thomas, 15. J. Haidon, 56. T. Dundon, 55. L. Gogis, 29. C. Riley , 23. M. Hooy, 18. K. Parsons, 21. J. Fox

Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Kioloa on May 20, 2017, 08:18:10 am
Live feed? Video or radio?
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: cimm1979 on May 20, 2017, 09:06:06 am
Live feed? Video or radio?

That's a negative Kio.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: cimm1979 on May 20, 2017, 09:08:55 am
NORTHERN BLUES v. SANDRINGHAM

Round 6 - 20/05/2017

11:00

Preston City Oval

Northern Blues

B: 4. S. Russell, 34. J. Glass-McCasker, 22. C. McCabe
HB: 47. C. Sheehan, 25. K. Keppel, 6. G. Strachan
C: 3. K.  Declase, 20. D.  Stevens, 67. C.  Polson
HF: 76. K. LeBois, 50. D. Gorringe, 56. A. Gallucci
F: 80. M. Korcheck, 29. B. Casley, 52. S. Fowler
R: 27. A. Milham, 35. M. Stavrou, 21. C. Barrett
Int: 63. R. Maibaum, 41. S. Glover, 53. H. Payne, 16. J. Thorpe, 46. J. Bradley, 64. L. Collins, 17. S. Peet, 57. F. Pearce, 23. C. Adams, 54. M. Romero, 44. W. Krithararis

That Keppel, Declase, Stevens and Stavrou cannot get a senior VFL game shows just how much more depth we have this year compared to last. There were times last year when there were not as many Carlton players named in the VFL seniors as there are in this side.
Let's hope they produce!

Sandringham

B: 5. R. Iudica, 45. S. Willatt, 50. R. Atkins
HB: 14. T. Grace, 4. T. Laumets, 22. C. Larkin
C: 51. B.  Bailey, 26. J.  Wallace, 46. R.  Hayward
HF: 7. C. Rich, 6. J. Fisscher, 11. J. Matera
F: 12. K. Lopo, 19. J. Dobosz, 27. N. Smith
R: 60. R. Monkhorst, 28. C. Cathcart, 17. N. Pavlou
Int: 58. R. Pierce, 78. J. Baker-Thomas, 15. J. Haidon, 56. T. Dundon, 55. L. Gogis, 29. C. Riley , 23. M. Hooy, 18. K. Parsons, 21. J. Fox

Some of those guys might be a bit annoyed at playing thirds but I hope they see the big picture.

Makes me very happy to be competitive.

Box Hill showing what a goods seconds side can do.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 02:13:45 pm
Armfield and jones playing for the NBs...
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 02:34:48 pm
Sandy 20 pts up at qtr tine.
Phillips good.  Den Den furious at team mates at qtr time. Sandy on and hard.
This will be interesting to see how we fight back after starting so badly.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Robblues on May 20, 2017, 02:41:10 pm
Cheers Baggers , how is Jones going today , interested to see how his almost call up will effect his form, if there spur is ther to prove he deserves another shot in the top flight
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 03:21:26 pm
NBs 3 pts up at half time. About a 3-4 goal wind which we had that qtr.
Better players - Phillips, Lamb, Jones, Polson, H,  Jakach, Gussy....

Bumped into RR who has contributed to the better players!!!
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: pinot on May 20, 2017, 03:25:26 pm
DISPOSALS: Palmer 15, Jones 14, Polson 14, White 14, Sheehan 13, O'Shea 12, Buckley 11. #WeMarchNorth #PJVFL
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 04:06:17 pm
NBs 9 pts up at 3/4 time. 2 goals to 6 behinds that qtr.
Jones, White and Sheehan great in defense. Buckley too many errors. Polson v good that qtr. Sumner smart. Billie Smedts v good. Gallucci good. Den Den good but too many errors. Palmer okay but average disposal...
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 04:19:55 pm
N Bs 19 pts up.
Jones brilliant.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: cookie2 on May 20, 2017, 04:23:33 pm
N Bs 19 pts up.
Jones brilliant.

Great to hear Baggers. Obviously not deterred by his non-selection for the seniors.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 04:32:35 pm
NBs 33 pts up.
Jones putting on a clinic
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 04:49:27 pm
NBs win by 38 pts.
Best: Jones, White, Sheehan, Polson, Palmer,  Wilson...
More soon when I get home. Sadly, Jones limped off just before full time.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: pinot on May 20, 2017, 05:14:56 pm
DISPOSALS: Palmer 30, Jones 26, Russell 26, Smedts 25, Buckley 25, Sheehan 24, Polson 24, White 24.

GOALS: Armfield 2, Corboy 2, Gallucci 2, Lamb 2, Phillips 2, Gorringe, McKay, Palmer, Polson, Russell, Smedts, Sumner

Looks like Jones got plenty of it.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 20, 2017, 05:30:40 pm
Win, lose or draw v Freo, sounds like Jones has to get a game next week.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 20, 2017, 05:46:27 pm
AFL Vic Development League 2017
Northern Blues   4.5  5.6  11.9  11.9 (75)
Sandringham   1.1  2.3  4.4  9.8 (62)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Milham 2 Stavrou  Krithararis  Barrett  Pearce  Fowler  Declase  Romero  Maibaum  Casley
Sandringham: Fisscher 3 Dobosz 2 Cathcart 2 Lopo  Monkhorst

BEST:
Northern Blues: Stevens Milham Casley Pearce Declase Keppel
Sandringham: Grace Laumets Atkins Fisscher Wallace Gogis
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 20, 2017, 05:49:29 pm


Peter Jackson VFL 2017
Northern Blues   4.1  9.5  11.5  17.11 (113)
Sandringham   7.3  8.8  8.14  10.15 (75)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Gallucci 2 Armfield 2 Phillips 2 Corboy 2 Lamb 2 Smedts  Palmer  Gorringe  Polson  Russell Sumner  McKay
Sandringham: Savage 2 Answerth  Bruce  Rice  O'Kearney  Battle  Lonie  Pierce  Long

BEST:
Northern Blues: Jones Palmer Russell O'Shea Phillips Smedts
Sandringham: Savage Rice O'Kearney Hayes Weickhardt Answerth
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Lods on May 20, 2017, 06:17:45 pm
Win, lose or draw v Freo, sounds like Jones has to get a game next week.
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He deserves it for effort....but who does he replace?
He's been in good form as a backman but we have so many that one of our best is playing forward.
Play Jones forward and he'll probably just reproduce his past efforts in that role.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: mateinone on May 20, 2017, 06:21:53 pm
Yeah if I am true to how I want the club to improve I think I am on a similar page Lods
I don't think Jones is the future and he can only get games if he is replacing another older backman, not replacing youth. If not he needs to bide his time performing in the twos.

He cannot be brought in to play as a forward ever again.

In saying that if he keeps performing the way he is reported to be playing then one of our other back will simply have to make way
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Lods on May 20, 2017, 06:23:50 pm
Just read elsewhere that he may have copped an injury towards the end of today's game :(
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: LoveNavy on May 20, 2017, 06:32:55 pm
Great to see NB's and Development sides winning.
NB's performances seems a real indication the club's strengthening. At long last....

Sounds like NB's were strong fighting back from behind. Great to hear Gussy, Jones, Sumner, and Smedts playing well. This must create a great competitive environment for senior selection.

I realize Jones won't play v freo, but he really earned the respect of his teammates in this game last year. He was the difference when the heat was on. Hope he gets a shot as soon as there's an opening.

Congratulations

Go Blues
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: RiverRat on May 20, 2017, 06:34:23 pm
NBs 3 pts up at half time. About a 3-4 goal wind which we had that qtr.
Better players - Phillips, Lamb, Jones, Polson, H,  Jakach, Gussy....

Bumped into RR who has contributed to the better players!!!

One of the most dominant performances I have seen from a tall defender and, although it looked like it, he wasn't playing loose man in defence. He simply zoned off his opponent but always managed to have the closing speed to get to the contest.

When the ball was in the air, Jones got to the contest to mark it (one grab) or punch it.

When his opponent was on the lead, he had the closing speed to spoil.

When it was on the ground he had the speed to get to the contest to impact the ball or an opponent (many of whom were strongly impacted).

When he had the ball in hand, he executed the 'don't argue' and/or delivered the ball to a teammate.

A couple of years ago, Baggers and I expressed the view that Jones had all of the tools to become a key defender. We were patting each other on the back today.

Having said that, I can't see him forcing his way into the senior team unless Rowe or Marchbank falter.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: LoveNavy on May 20, 2017, 06:34:38 pm
Where's Pickett?
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 07:05:38 pm
Where's Pickett?

Didn't play and neither did Kerr.

Can only add a little to what RR said re Jones. He was simply impassable. Hopefully the limping off late in the game is not too serious. Based on what I've seen from Jones this year we'd be crazy to delist him. If Rowe, Marchbank, Plowman, Willo or Weitering go down this bloke is ready... in fact with his closing speed and excellent reading of the play he's pressing too hard to resist. He's a defender. If we delist him another AFL club will swoop and he'll end up being a key defender and doing well some place else. The bloke could play on a quick 193 cm forward or a 200 cm key forward.



Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Lods on May 20, 2017, 07:16:02 pm
Didn't play and neither did Kerr.

Can only add a little to what RR said re Jones. He was simply impassable. Hopefully the limping off late in the game is not too serious. Based on what I've seen from Jones this year we'd be crazy to delist him. If Rowe, Marchbank, Plowman, Willo or Weitering go down this bloke is ready... in fact with his closing speed and excellent reading of the play he's pressing too hard to resist. He's a defender. If we delist him another AFL club will swoop and he'll end up being a key defender and doing well some place else. The bloke could play on a quick 193 cm forward or a 200 cm key forward.

What about as a trade Baggers. Any value there? Swap him  for a forward...No doubt other clubs would be monitoring his VFL performances. The inability to break into the Carlton backline at present shouldn't count against him because it compares quite favourably to other clubs.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 07:18:20 pm
What about as a trade Baggers. Any value there? Swap him  for a forward...No doubt other clubs would be monitoring his VFL performances. The inability to break into the Carlton backline at present shouldn't count against him because it compares quite favourably to other clubs.

You wouldn't accept anything less than a good 2nd rounder for him and yes he sure has 1. Resurrected his AFL career and 2. Improved his trade value immeasurably.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 20, 2017, 07:29:50 pm
What about as a trade Baggers. Any value there? Swap him  for a forward...No doubt other clubs would be monitoring his VFL performances. The inability to break into the Carlton backline at present shouldn't count against him because it compares quite favourably to other clubs.

Need to play him in the seniors if you want to trade him, he is still untested as a defender at senior level and his
trade value would be minimal unless other clubs could value him vs decent opponents.
I dont see the harm in trying him out down back, and keeping Weitering forward......not convinced Marchbank can take the big KP players so Jones might be handy...
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 07:39:00 pm
DISPOSALS: Palmer 30, Jones 26, Russell 26, Smedts 25, Buckley 25, Sheehan 24, Polson 24, White 24.

GOALS: Armfield 2, Corboy 2, Gallucci 2, Lamb 2, Phillips 2, Gorringe, McKay, Palmer, Polson, Russell, Smedts, Sumner

Looks like Jones got plenty of it.

Stats can be so tricky. Looking at those you'd think that Palmer was dominant and yes, he got his hands on the aggott alot and was one of our better players but, like Buckley, if you look at effectiveness those two didn't hurt the opposition enough with their disposal whereas Jones, Smedts, Sheehan, Polson and White were all highly effective because their disposals were in a high % for effectiveness. Likewise Den Den with 2 goals, turned it over too much... how he got to be an emergency for the seniors on recent form is baffling. Many in front of him.

Polson showed us some glimpses with the terrific weaving through traffic... a couple of times were real gems.

The big picture is that the NBs have knocked off, impressively, the 4th placed side and did it coming from behind in fine, ruthless style. Great team effort... must also mention the terrific contribution from the Preston boys Wilson, OShea and Russell.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: laj on May 20, 2017, 07:41:24 pm
He's played brilliantly in two roles this year, One as a ruck/forward, the other as a key defender. Fitting him in somewhere is the hard bit. Around the ground as a ruckman he was so damaging, including physically to the opposition, when he played there and hit the scoreboard too, now playing just  as brilliantly as a key defender. Levi wouldn't want to struggle for a couple of games despite an good year so far.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: pinot on May 20, 2017, 08:21:59 pm
Jones can play Ruck/Forward and showed he is pretty handy at KPD. In the past he had a great set of hands but just didnt work hard enough on the defensive side when ball was in forward line. His man was running a merry dance around him.

I am sure SOS and team will figure it out.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: jeza on May 20, 2017, 10:08:02 pm
Jones hysteria!

Pat on the back to the bloke. He's putting the VFL level to the sword which hopefully will translate to AFL level when an opportunity comes up.

I might not get too carries away until we see him do that but would love to see him come off as a CHB.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: jeza on May 20, 2017, 10:22:37 pm
Looking at the highlights... fair to say the opposition was abysmal?

Our blokes doing well regardless obviously but Sandy looked bloody aweful.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: LP on May 20, 2017, 10:28:08 pm
Looking at the highlights... fair to say the opposition was abysmal?

Our blokes doing well regardless obviously but Sandy looked bloody aweful.

Before today Sandringham were equal 3rd on the ladder with us, our three previous wins were against bottom sides.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Thryleon on May 20, 2017, 10:32:12 pm
I have an idea.  Give Rowe or Levi a spell.  Play either of those two in the ruck support role, and play Jones in the ones in Rowe's role.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 20, 2017, 10:47:29 pm
Looking at the highlights... fair to say the opposition was abysmal?

Our blokes doing well regardless obviously but Sandy looked bloody aweful.

The dangers of highlights Jeza. Sandy were good. They were hard at it, especially in the first when they set up their lead. They came out breathing fire in the third... nuh, our boys pressured them into errors and we were just better. Credit given where it is due, Sandy are no mugs. The win is very credible due to a terrific, disciplined team effort. We overran them in the last but that was due, simply, to sustained pressure. Hardly a passenger.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: JonHenry on May 21, 2017, 08:40:19 am
I have an idea.  Give Rowe or Levi a spell.  Play either of those two in the ruck support role, and play Jones in the ones in Rowe's role.

What if you trade Rowe at seasons end and keep Jones to play his role?
 Rowes best season.... but how many more does he have?
Jones could potentially hold down a KPD spot for 6 years.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Lods on May 21, 2017, 08:47:18 am
I guess before we make any firm judgements we need to see him again at senior level in the defender role.
It's why it's important he gets some (not just one) games during the year.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: cimm1979 on May 21, 2017, 09:06:32 am
What if you trade Rowe at seasons end and keep Jones to play his role?
 Rowes best season.... but how many more does he have?
Jones could potentially hold down a KPD spot for 6 years.

It must be a consideration but I get the feeling Sammy might be untouchable.

The only way we'd do it is if (and it's a big if) Liam did perform in the role , that it would be explained to Sammy that his opportunities might be limited going forward. You'd put a fair contract in front of him (I don't know when his ends) and say you're welcome here but if you want to explore your options we support that.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: kruddler on May 21, 2017, 09:19:26 am
What if you trade Rowe at seasons end and keep Jones to play his role?
 Rowes best season.... but how many more does he have?
Jones could potentially hold down a KPD spot for 6 years.

If you wanna trade someone, trade Jones.

Rowe > Jones....yes even if he does have less years left.

We already have Marchbank, Plowman, Macreadie, Weitering to hold down the key forwards of the future. Jones is already behind all of them.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: bratblue on May 21, 2017, 09:26:05 am
Catch 22   To get any value for Jones we would have to play him in the 1's.  Having said that I'm sure a few teams will be watching his progress with interest.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: cookie2 on May 21, 2017, 09:38:48 am
I cannot see us trading out Rowe tbh. He has become an almost beloved figure and important as a father figure to our young guys. I would be concerned to see him go. Jones' terrific form is great news for sure but we would need to see him consolidate that with a number of senior games before we can be clear about his future role with us.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: townsendcalling on May 21, 2017, 09:39:03 am
Didn't realize that Jones' efforts were against Josh Bruce. Bruce can play and would be dangerous in even a weak side. Only adds to LJ's credibility from this effort.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 21, 2017, 10:15:51 am
Didn't realize that Jones' efforts were against Josh Bruce. Bruce can play and would be dangerous in even a weak side. Only adds to LJ's credibility from this effort.

He tore Bruce a newy. Not only, as Ye Rat O' the River pointed out, did he beat Bruce but would frequently leave him to help out in other contests and invariably impact that contest in some way.

With all the Jones love, which is richly deserved, I temper my enthusiasm with the fact that he aint playing seniors and showing this great form at the highest level. But, damn, he couldn't play any better at seconds level and it would be unfair for him not to be promoted... though the injury he got just a few minutes from the end of yesterday's game might end any promotion speculation. Hope it's not serious. He's only just turned 26 so there's still plenty of footy in him.

Thoughts of trading Rowe, sorry, but I think there's no chance. He's not perfect but he's a bloody rock down back.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: RiverRat on May 21, 2017, 10:24:30 am
White (unlucky to be dropped IMO), Sheehan (played a full game) and Jaksch also played very well in defence yesterday. In fact, it was probably as well as I have seen Jaksch play in defence, which might have had something to do with Jones' covering everything.

KJ has yet to demonstrate that he has overcome his limited mobility issues but he has shown enough in recent weeks to indicate that he was worth keeping on the list for at least this season.

When I could draw my focus away from the way the defenders were playing, I was captivated by Phillips' performance. Very good size, leap and mobility with a great pair of one-grab hands suggest that he just might develop into a decent ruckman. Having said that, he was schooled in the early ruck contests by Jason Holmes (#69) whose impressive palming and body positioning had me wishing he was on our list and showed up Phillips' areas that still need lots of work. Nonetheless, Phillips became more competitive in the ruck contests as the match progressed and won his share of hit outs in the second half. 
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 21, 2017, 10:48:22 am
Rowe wont be traded IMO, he is a battler who has undergone adversity on and off the field and is universally admired for
his courage and resolve...you dont push those blokes out of your club especially when they are leaders and playing well.
Reckon it might come down to keeping one of Jaksch or Jones...on form its Jones....

re: Jason Holmes...ran into the back of my mates car a while back  down on the Nepean Highway....nice bloke according to my mate who said he did all the right things insurance wise and apologised for his lack of driving skills.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: sandsmere on May 21, 2017, 08:18:35 pm
White (unlucky to be dropped IMO), Sheehan (played a full game) and Jaksch also played very well in defence yesterday. In fact, it was probably as well as I have seen Jaksch play in defence, which might have had something to do with Jones' covering everything.

KJ has yet to demonstrate that he has overcome his limited mobility issues but he has shown enough in recent weeks to indicate that he was worth keeping on the list for at least this season.

When I could draw my focus away from the way the defenders were playing, I was captivated by Phillips' performance. Very good size, leap and mobility with a great pair of one-grab hands suggest that he just might develop into a decent ruckman. Having said that, he was schooled in the early ruck contests by Jason Holmes (#69) whose impressive palming and body positioning had me wishing he was on our list and showed up Phillips' areas that still need lots of work. Nonetheless, Phillips became more competitive in the ruck contests as the match progressed and won his share of hit outs in the second half.

Thanks RR. Some oood news in that little lot.  :D
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: LoveNavy on May 21, 2017, 09:11:30 pm
At this early stage of a rebuild, the performance of our 2's 3's is really encouraging. Although we'll have injuries (not too many hopefully) to cover, the good form of these guys is vital in building a highly competitive environment. This will push each player to be the best they can be.

Go new Blues
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: shawny on May 21, 2017, 09:17:01 pm
At this early stage of a rebuild, the performance of our 2's 3's is really encouraging. Although we'll have injuries (not too many hopefully) to cover, the good form of these guys is vital in building a highly competitive environment. This will push each player to be the best they can be.

Go new Blues

X2. Love your posts Navy.

One of the few that is not all doom and gloom after a loss.

We are on the right track and our performances in the 2s is testament that we now finally have some depth and our overall list is stronger then it has been in a long time.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Vivian on May 21, 2017, 09:22:49 pm
X2. Love your posts Navy.

One of the few that is not all doom and gloom after a loss.

We are on the right track and our performances in the 2s is testament that we now finally have some depth and our overall list is stronger then it has been in a long time.

Fully agree.  This is the best indication in 2017 that we are on the right track.  Northern Blues are playing consistent and strong football.  Depth is building and importantly, a consistent style and method is growing across the two teams.  If the club is to build sustained success, a powerful VFL side is an essential foundation.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: LoveNavy on May 21, 2017, 09:35:30 pm
X2. Love your posts Navy
Oh stop it shawny..... That is too clever ^-^

Look at the 2s of any club pushing for sustained success. They are distinctly strong. It's how the Hawks and recently the Dogs have the depth to cover outs. I personally place a lot of weight on this factor. Remember how seamlessly those teams shuffle their 22 to optimize match ups.

Not rocket science....
If we move up the Vfl ladder significantly, and remain competitive in AFL, we're undoubtedly on the right track. Don't forget we're hitting off a sizeable handicap :( year on year of crap recruiting will do that.

It's as interesting watching the NB's performance as our 1's. I'm loving it. Great to see some games broadcast too.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2017, 08:43:22 am
One of the most dominant performances I have seen from a tall defender and, although it looked like it, he wasn't playing loose man in defence. He simply zoned off his opponent but always managed to have the closing speed to get to the contest.

When the ball was in the air, Jones got to the contest to mark it (one grab) or punch it.

When his opponent was on the lead, he had the closing speed to spoil.

When it was on the ground he had the speed to get to the contest to impact the ball or an opponent (many of whom were strongly impacted).

When he had the ball in hand, he executed the 'don't argue' and/or delivered the ball to a teammate.

A couple of years ago, Baggers and I expressed the view that Jones had all of the tools to become a key defender. We were patting each other on the back today.

Having said that, I can't see him forcing his way into the senior team unless Rowe or Marchbank falter.
Unfortunately Rowe must have read your post. It is not yet determined how long he will be missing for, but he could yet be a LTI candidate. Anterior Cruciate I read this morning.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: flyboy77 on May 22, 2017, 09:15:43 am
did anyone else think Fyfe's actions in jumping on Rowe's leg - it wasn't really a smother was odd, and rather dangerous (as the effect has showed)?
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2017, 09:19:58 am
did anyone else think Fyfe's actions in jumping on Rowe's leg - it wasn't really a smother was odd, and rather dangerous (as the effect has showed)?
It is a good question.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Professer E on May 22, 2017, 09:43:00 am
How dare you question a prospective brownlow medallist!  Expect a call from AFL house.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: townsendcalling on May 22, 2017, 10:18:14 am
X2. Love your posts Navy.

One of the few that is not all doom and gloom after a loss.

We are on the right track and our performances in the 2s is testament that we now finally have some depth and our overall list is stronger then it has been in a long time.

Just look at the Box Hill performances when Hawthorn were at the top of their game.  There is a pattern.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: blue4life on May 22, 2017, 10:34:51 am
We really should be going OK in the VFL, we've have virtually no injuries apart from Byrne.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Thryleon on May 22, 2017, 10:40:01 am
did anyone else think Fyfe's actions in jumping on Rowe's leg - it wasn't really a smother was odd, and rather dangerous (as the effect has showed)?

Not really.

Its desperation to get the ball that makes the difference between a good player and a great player.

Keep in mind he has broken his own leg twice playing this sport.
Title: Re: VFL 2017: Rd 6: Northern Blues vs Sandringham at Preston
Post by: Baggers on May 23, 2017, 09:17:01 pm
We really should be going OK in the VFL, we've have virtually no injuries apart from Byrne.

Nailed it. We have the healthiest list in the AFL. Just, really, amplifies the fact of how far behind we are. The upside though is that many of our newbies get a taste of senior footy.