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Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #30 –
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The team has NO confidence in Lewis Young!!

It seems that Lewis Young has little or no confidence in Lewis Young. 

However, his performances in the first two games represent improvements over his 2023 efforts.  Maybe there is hope for him yet.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #31 –
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Kemp was terrific all night but that 'Mark of the Year' attempt on the last line of defense was also a massive brain-fade, it looks great when it comes off but its too costly when it doesn't. Just do the team-orientated thing and give a defensive punch and follow it up on the ground.
  
Displays great athleticism and skill but makes too many errors due to indecisiveness and second-guessing himself.  Needs to create space for himself when he has the ball instead of hovering in the midst of the action.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #32 –
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Charlie should have had 5 goals, but ended with 2. That mark in the square was brilliant; the play on and get a rushed behind was almost comical. His defensive work late was good and he generally had the better of his duel, but he has brain fades that need work to fix.


A very instinctive player who desperately needs a dose of poise to take the next step.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #33 –
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Individually, we had our fair share of blokes down, well down - Fantasia, Hollands, Cuningham. A large number of 'did their job' ...just. But then there were the blokes who really carried us and had exceptional moments - TDK, Saad, McKay, Kemp, Charles, Acres, Newman, Williams (that run down tackle late in the game to earn a free was just brilliant). Then, at the pinnacle, was Cripps and McGovern.

...and some pretty handy blokes to return in the coming weeks...

Fantasia and the other small forwards need to convert the limited number of chances that they get - not doing so will likely cost Fantasia a spot in the team if/when another option is available.

Hollands seems to be less productive than last year but he is always committed to chase and tackle - an attribute that is catching on with a number of other players who were previously inclined to fade in and out of matches.  In that regard, I thought Cuningham was better than last week.

Very impressed with the number of tackles-on-the-run that players managed to stick last night.  Even Dusty was collared on multiple occasions.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #34 –
Quote from: RiverRat on
Hollands seems to be less productive than last year but he is always committed to chase and tackle - an attribute that is catching on with a number of other players who were previously inclined to fade in and out of matches.
A couple of reasons.

Firstly, 2nd year blues, everybody gets it and suffering from it has nothing to do with the player himself, it's all about opposition learning your strengths and weakness and going to work on them.

Lastly, we've tweaked our game plan, at least at the moment, maybe when Walsh and Weiters return you'll find a bit more return to normal for the running types. However, I'm all for the winning ugly stuff, we are demonstrating we can now put the brakes on opposition even if a few of our running types suffer. It will be interesting to see when Martin and Motlop are available if we retain this strong defensive capability, or if the bias tilts towards attack.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #35 –
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Very impressed with the number of tackles-on-the-run that players managed to stick last night.  Even Dusty was collared on multiple occasions.
True, but of the heavy lifters I thought Tarranto and Hopper had pretty good nights for them.

Father time is catching up with Dusty he can't break those tackles as easily, will he get back to full Dusty after a few games, I doubt it, but he'll still have his moments. Even so it looks like we aren't intimidated by him anymore.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #36 –
I'm not sold on Fantasia again, two weeks in a row he's looked off the pace and timid, it may be because he's not yet familiar with the team-mates and that can make you hesitant.

But particularly 1/2-game for 1 tackle is not going to cut it from an AFL small forward, especially in a game which was so contested. He needs to get into the opponents as a bare minimum, learn to love the berserk, and get amongst it.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #37 –
Quote from: LP on
I'm not sold on Fantasia again, two weeks in a row he's looked off the pace and timid, it may be because he's not yet familiar with the team-mates and that can make you hesitant.

But particularly 1/2-game for 1 tackle is not going to cut it from an AFL small forward, especially in a game which was so contested. He needs to get into the opponents as a bare minimum, learn to love the berserk, and get amongst it.

Long time off, he'll get the feel of it all again, possibly in the 2nds. As a last spot on the list well worth a punt. Eventually we'll get plenty from him, just not now or any time soon. He'll lose his spot to the other Hollands next game.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #38 –
Good to get away with that one if even we were ordinary. Last night worried me as I still respect Richmond. Plenty of stars from multiple premierships years still in that line up. They gave me the impression they be in contention for a spot in the bottom part of the 8.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #39 –
The omens are good. The only other time a side has been 2-0 after round 1 was us in 1979 when our round 3 game against Essendon was played before round 1. We were premiers that year!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #40 –
100% honest, I was very worried going into this game.  Between the inevitable let-down after last week's big win and Doc's knee, combined with a Richmond outfit who were always going to be fired up, there was a real chance we would turn up half-baked and get rolled. 

Fortunately, we were 3/4 baked and did enough to win.  Had two chances (start of the second and start of the last) where we could have put the game to bed - if we had established a 20+ lead at any stage, I think the Tiges would have faded - but we stuffed up enough to keep them interested.

This is one of those 'ugly' wins that you need to have - still get the four points, but also (hopefully) learn several lessons.

Kudos to our tackling, it has improved out of sight (although Lewis Y needs to do some significant remedial work).

Best sight for the night - TDK has finally realised he can jump higher than the gorillas and is faster around the ground.  I think his season will only get better.  And Harry's 'ball on the ground, 10 steps, kick' routine is clearly a keeper.

This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #41 –
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Displays great athleticism and skill but makes too many errors due to indecisiveness and second-guessing himself.  Needs to create space for himself when he has the ball instead of hovering in the midst of the action.
Agree...does a lot of good stuff but then takes the gloss off his work with some poor disposal usually caused by panicking in traffic either real or perceived. I think these games without Weitering and with extra responsibility are good for him and I see a good long term player who will only get better.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #42 –
I thought Richmond responded pretty strongly after last week's debacle. They didn't give up. Hat tip to them. Do our players know that they are allowed to win by more than a goal?
I thought our tackling was pretty good, our goal kicking was average, our defence was very strong but there is still some disconnect in our forward line.
When McKay was recruited I thought he would be our next Kernahan. Over the past few seasons he had become our next Casboult. He looks like he is going to have a pretty big year. I have been pretty happy with Cuningham and Fogarty so far.
Nothing much more I can say.  Keep winning.

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #43 –
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Over the past few seasons he had become our next Casboult. 
Surely you are taking the piss!

Casboult has played 200 games and averages a goal a game, McKay averages two goals a game and has won a Coleman. Last week Casboult played 86% game time standing in F50 time next to Lukosius and King, and didn't hit the scoreboard. So I'm assuming Levi played as a decoy forward.

FWIW, I suspect we could stand Barb in F50 surrounded by Harry and Charlie and she'd hit the scoreboard by coincidence or perhaps a deflection.
The Force Awakens!

Re: AFL Rd 1 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Richmond

Reply #44 –
Quote from: Blue Moon on
I have been pretty happy with Cuningham and Fogarty so far.

These are 2 players I have been very interested in.
I keep waiting for Cunningham to have that really big game but I have been somewhat disappointed so far this year - fingers crossed going forward.
Fogarty I was generally uninterested in 10-12 months ago - I had him well behind Owies, Motlop, small Durdin, and even Cunningham but he is certainly exceeding my expectations - hopefully his good form continues and he does seem to offer more than just the small forward role (which is where I had him playing)