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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
E. Curnows disposal by foot is atrocious....no left side either, White is another who cannot hit a target.....Daisy is gone and needs to do a deal with the club and retire....

Many people on here have the crosshairs trained in a select few players this season.
Thomas, White, Ed and Kerridge.

Most of the talk is the same, poor kicking.

One thing they all have in common, besides that, is that they are senior players who give their all.

Lets say the wishes of many on here were granted and those 4 (could be more) are no longer given selection. Who comes in, what does the team look like. Are we better off?

Personally, i think we will have WAY too many kids in their place who will get injured as they are not up to the physicality of senior football yet. That leads to people further down the list getting games (or putting the above 4 back in) and we go round in circles.

Its true that they are far from a-grade footballers, but they offer something that our list largely lacks. Good old fashioned guts and determination. That CAN be infectious. It is very hard to manufacture. With such a young list, we simply need these types of players in our team. People better just get used to it.

These are the players that block, smother, shephard, tackle, run hard and cover for teammates and generally do the 1%ers. We could do with some more of that on our list.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: Lods – on
As an example....Throw Weitering down back for that game and all of a sudden that defence becomes much stronger and as a result the defenders have assistance. It reduces their workload and allows them to play closer attention to their own man. Mccarthy doesn't get six goals, some of those over the top/ free run into goal scores don't occur.

Yes, our defense gets better with Weitering down back.
However, our forward line gets a lot worse.

Weitering kicked 1.1 and a score assist. =team high marks inside 50 (2)

He adds more value to the team playing in the forwardline.

Rowe, Marchbank, Plowman, A. Silvagni and even White can play key posts down back in Weiterings absence.
Who can play up forward if we take Weitering away from there?
Casboutl, J. Silvagni....Curnow.....McKay.... ??

Basically the same thing was said last night...
There was a discussion had about weitering last night with Dunstall re forward vs back.
If he is a 9/10 backman and a 7-8/10 forward, where is he best played in our side?

Given the lack of depth and need of forward, he's better off forward.
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Ladies Lounge / Re: AFLW Round 6: Freo v Carlton
Sad to say, but Freo just wanted it more.

Hunted in packs and were largely more desperate at the ball (with a couple of exceptions).

I think our taller marking targets, specifically Shierlaw + Ayre, were well held.....partially by the weather!
Freo just looked too fit and were not effected by the conditions as much.

This loss continues the pattern
Win @ home
Lose Away.

....lucky R1 was moved to Ikon Park!!
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Ladies Lounge / Re: ALFW B&F Thread
3. Davey
2. Loynes
1. Vescio

Apologies to Lucas-Rodd, Audley, Hosking....and hardiman was doing well before getting injured.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 – on
Some players lift when they play seniors, you cant just play the same losing players every week, Jaksch deserved a chance and yes he didnt take it but it was the right thing to do
IMO and try him out...no doubt he isnt a coaches favourite because he doesnt appear to give effort all the time but I'd like to see him played again before we dispose of him at years end.
I am not having a go at the playing of Jaksch. I in fact thought he should've been given at least another week in the 1's.

However, peoples expectations of what he would bring to the side were ridiculously high.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: Gointocarlton – on
Can I ask a question Krudd? Who has nominated A Silvagni as a "saviour"? Every post I have read (but I may have a crucial one) nominates him as a gap filler if key defenders go down. After all, he is on the Rookie list.

*sigh*

Nobody. Yet.

I'm looking into my crystal ball.

As i just got through saying, nobody thought anything of Jaksch at this stage of last year. However, when we start falling in a heap, we start looking for 'hope' in all the wrong places. My prediction, Silvagni will be that hope that people will turn to in 2017.

As many have just said, he is a gap filler. Agree. He is not a hope.

Just trying to temper peoples expectations early. Hope the club plays him early which will assist in tempering his expectations.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: DJC – on
I can't really see any link between Jaksch and Silvagni.  Jaksch was a speculative trade with long term potential and considerable doubts about his ability to play AFL.  Nothing has really changed although the doubts are mounting and the potential is diminishing.

Alex Silvagni is a mature age rookie added to our list to provide cover in the event that we lose a defender to a long term injury.  While a couple of posters think that he will be elevated to allow Weitering to go forward, I doubt whether he'll play a game at senior level.  If he does get the opportunity, I'm sure that he will perform adequately, as his career with Fremantle suggests.

I couldn't give a flying fudge at a rolling donut about people's expectations but I doubt whether anyone sees him as the 'great white hope'.  He's a good ordinary footballer who I think will fill a short term need. I'd love him to prove me wrong by playing 50 games.

OK, one more time as it appears we have a lot of midgets on the site.

Everyone was over Jaksch prior to the start of the 2016 season. However, when we were going bad, he was kicking a few goals in the 2's. We continued to go bad. Yet he wasn't played. Every man and his dog was calling for him to be played because he HAD to be better than what we had playing for us. His stocks went up, simply because our teams had gone down.

Now, the moment comes and he is picked. Then he plays.....not that you could tell. He was pathetic. People realised why he wasn't picked in the first place and got over it.

I hope we play A. Silvagni now....so people see what he offers.....whatever that may be. Then people wont build him up to be somewhat of a saviour when he does get picked
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: JLT game 3
Quote from: DJC – on
I don't get this  :-\

While I may disagree with aspects of the club's list management from time to time, every player on our list has my full support even if their success shows that my football judgement is awry.

Alex Silvagni, Smedts and Palmer were added to our list for a reason and, from what I've seen of the latter two, they've met expectations.  I'd prefer to see Alex play out the season in the NBs but, if needed, he'll do his job.

Let me elaborate.

Right now, Alex Silvagni is a bright new shiny toy in an unopened box. Our imaginations are running wild with all his tricks of the trade. We've all read about what he CAN do. Since he is still in his box, we are yet to find out what he cannot do.

He will remain as 'the great white hope' (as our other recruits were - in which most automatically made our best 22) and will be called for as an in each and every week we lose as a fix.
Then, finally we take him out of the box and play him. Then we see him for who he is, warts and all. Maybe he does ok, maybe not. But i doubt he'll be able to live up to everyones expectations of him.

The sooner we take him out of the box, the sooner we can see he's just 'malibu stacy with a new hat' and we can move on.

Not following??
See Jaksch in 2016.