Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

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Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #15 – May 11, 2019, 04:35:52 pm

Quote from: PaulP on May 11, 2019, 04:33:38 pm

A lot of folks think Cripps is the man, but I wonder if it's actually Kreuzer.

I thought Grundy was very influential...Kreuzer was good but Cripps really held us together when the Pies cranked up in that last part of the game.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #16 – May 11, 2019, 04:36:01 pm

Quote from: kruddler on May 11, 2019, 04:29:38 pm

I wrote this in the in-game.
I'll keep it here for all to see.

Free kick count....

Half time
Collingwood - 16
Carlton - 6.

3/4 time
Collingwood - 20
Carlton - 7

Final
Collingwood - 24
Carlton - 8 (came with 2mins to go in the game - after Plowman was NOT given 2 obvious free kicks, which resulted in 2x goals to get them up by 2 goals late)

Hard to compete with 25 players out there.

We should probably ask for a please explain....but at the end of the day.... It won't change the result and will be forgotten within a few weeks.

On the whole the team did everything we could of asked for and gave a more than appropriate effort after last weeks result.
Come to play like that every week and the wins will come.
It would do wonders to win one of those close ones.
Might change the whole mindset.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #17 – May 11, 2019, 04:36:09 pm

Quote from: sydneybluesfan on May 11, 2019, 04:32:03 pm

When the whips started cracking at the end our midfield got smashed. 26-5 inside 50’s in the last quarter. Cripps played a lone hand in the middle but he can't do everything.

Relative association with the almost impossible free kick differential

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #18 – May 11, 2019, 04:36:36 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on May 11, 2019, 04:30:06 pm

Their better players lifted in that last part of the game and they also had another two blokes with whistles helping them out which made it impossible...

You know what buddy. We are looking like the choke specialists. We will struggle to attract the senior gun players we need to win more games. The only way to attract those gun players is by winning. We are stuck in a real hard place at he moment. Can’t blame BB for this. It is full on player accountability at the moment. We need the players to dig deep to get us off the bottom of the ladder. Something that looks highly unlikely over the next few games. Sure we are competitive. Is that enough though?

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #19 – May 11, 2019, 04:37:16 pm

Quote from: sydneybluesfan on May 11, 2019, 04:32:03 pm

When the whips started cracking at the end our midfield got smashed. 26-5 inside 50’s in the last quarter. Cripps played a lone hand in the middle but he can't do everything.

Again, when serious heat comes, we fold. But, like all our honourable losses, there was plenty to like.

Just don't know how to win. That psychological barrier is still there.

Please, BB, please don't pump up everyone's tyres for doing so well for much of the game. This loss, in some ways, should hurt more than most this year.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #20 – May 11, 2019, 04:37:27 pm

Quote from: townsendcalling on May 11, 2019, 04:34:50 pm

Fisher was lame for the last quarter and a half. Couldn’t run or kick. Made a significant difference.

Agree...was going at 80%DE and was our best player IMO, very good with ball in hand.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #21 – May 11, 2019, 04:37:56 pm

Quote from: PaulP on May 11, 2019, 04:33:38 pm

A lot of folks think Cripps is the man, but I wonder if it's actually Kreuzer.

Both...but Kreuzer makes a huge difference.
Most of our best football this year is when he plays

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #22 – May 11, 2019, 04:40:10 pm

Quote from: Mantis on May 11, 2019, 04:36:36 pm

You know what buddy. We are looking like the choke specialists. We will struggle to attract the senior gun players we need to win more games. The only way to attract those gun players is by winning. We are stuck in a real hard place at he moment. Can’t blame BB for this. It is full on player accountability at the moment. We need the players to dig deep to get us off the bottom of the ladder. Something that looks highly unlikely over the next few games. Sure we are competitive. Is that enough though?

Bolton wasnt to blame for this loss and had the players in the right positions, we probably had one too many kids who made a few mistakes at the wrong time
and lacked some polish but the effort was there and we were well led by Cripps.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #23 – May 11, 2019, 04:41:07 pm

Close to the worst umpiring I have ever seen.

To make it worse I was surrounded by Collingwood fans who thought they were hard done by.

Cripps is an animal. Pie fans were calling us Crippton.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #24 – May 11, 2019, 04:41:27 pm

Quote from: Lods on May 11, 2019, 04:36:01 pm

We should probably ask for a please explain....but at the end of the day.... It won't change the result and will be forgotten within a few weeks.

On the whole the team did everything we could of asked for and gave a more than appropriate effort after last weeks result.
Come to play like that every week and the wins will come.
It would do wonders to win one of those close ones.
Might change the whole mindset.

Yep, it will be forgotten when Boltons head is on the chopping block too.

I'm not one to harp on about the umpires, but to suggest a whole team failed to infringe on anymore than 2 occasions in a half of football is complete bollocks. Especially when you look at a few examples very late in the game which led to direct goals that cost us the game.

I feel for Bolts because this could've been a turning point for him.
Yet 90% of the wider footballing public, and football media would not have watched this game, nor be aware of the circumstances with free kick counts etc. But at the end of the day, its another 'L' in the column that they will write about and point the finger at Bolton and co using it as 'proof' that he is no good.....and that goes for some on here as well.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #25 – May 11, 2019, 04:43:25 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on May 11, 2019, 04:35:52 pm

I thought Grundy was very influential...Kreuzer was good but Cripps really held us together when the Pies cranked up in that last part of the game.

The centre square set from them was telling in the end, they chucked in their mature bing guns, we had Crippa, Kruze and the kindergarten kids.
I am really concerned with Dow's disposal. His effort and dash cannot be questioned, but his disposal is not even VFL standard.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #26 – May 11, 2019, 04:43:36 pm

Kruez getting a centre clearance sets us up. Just a matter of time before the forwards click, connect, and complete the deal of some easy goals.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #27 – May 11, 2019, 04:44:05 pm

Quote from: kruddler on May 11, 2019, 04:41:27 pm

Yep, it will be forgotten when Boltons head is on the chopping block too.

I'm not one to harp on about the umpires, but to suggest a whole team failed to infringe on anymore than 2 occasions in a half of football is complete bollocks. Especially when you look at a few examples very late in the game which led to direct goals that cost us the game.

I feel for Bolts because this could've been a turning point for him.
Yet 90% of the wider footballing public, and football media would not have watched this game, nor be aware of the circumstances with free kick counts etc. But at the end of the day, its another 'L' in the column that they will write about and point the finger at Bolton and co using it as 'proof' that he is no good.....and that goes for some on here as well.

Bolton gets a pass for this game IMO....I wouldnt be counting this one as another nail in his coffin...Bombers and Saints are the two we/he needs to win..

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #28 – May 11, 2019, 04:44:41 pm

Elwood. I am not at bias to make this claim as a Blues supporter. Not at all. Cripps is the best player in the AFL by a country mile. In any other side he would win a Brownlow due to the support from other mids he would get week in, week out. With us he needs to carry the entire squad. Poor kid.

Re: Post Game Passion: AFL 2019 Rd 8: Carlton vs. Collingwood

Reply #29 – May 11, 2019, 04:45:46 pm

Quote from: Baggers on May 11, 2019, 04:37:16 pm

Again, when serious heat comes, we fold. But, like all our honourable losses, there was plenty to like.

Just don't know how to win. That psychological barrier is still there.

Please, BB, please don't pump up everyone's tyres for doing so well for much of the game. This loss, in some ways, should hurt more than most this year.

That is all.