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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by pinot -
Quote from: laj on
We lost them all in the same stretch last year, many in embarrassing fashion. after round 13 we beat who we lost too.

Wasn't expecting miracles with what was 5 consecutive blockbusters but of the first 4 we won two and pissed 2 others down the drain narrowly with half a side out. Highly competitive against contenders even with the injuries. Tonight, we mentally fell apart and gave up. Tonight was terrible in effort. Injuries are no excuse for a lack of effort.

It has been a tough run for sure but two rucks and three small forwards taking run run away from the middle has been a miserable failure and needs to take ownership. I wont trust the guy with this list if he doesn't.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Macca37 -
That was a reality check. Anyone who thinks we can make a serious tilt for the flag with this list is living in Fantasyland.

We have the belief that one magical day we will be able to field a side picked from our top 22 players.  It's not going to happen.  We are paying for dreadful recruiting decisions made some years ago which has left us with too many injury prone players.

Currently we have a midfield that goes well for a quarter, runs out of puff and the tackle count goes down because the players can't catch the opposition midfielders.

We have too many lightweight players who are unable to make a meaningful tackle and just get brushed aside. 

Until we can follow the example of Geelong and Swans and have a list that does not have more than the average number of injuries during a season, we will just be pretenders.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by laj -
Quote from: pinot on
Patiently awaiting for the Voss presser I know he is not going to make excuses but if he props up this game plan then I am going to be concerned that he doesnt know what he is doing - losing 4 of 6 against contenders justifies it.
We lost them all in the same stretch last year, many in embarrassing fashion. after round 13 we beat who we lost too.

Wasn't expecting miracles with what was 5 consecutive blockbusters but of the first 4 we won two and pissed 2 others down the drain narrowly with half a side out. Highly competitive against contenders even with the injuries. Tonight, we mentally fell apart and gave up. Tonight was terrible in effort. Injuries are no excuse for a lack of effort.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Agree. Seriously though, can we hire an NRL tackling coach? I'm sick of blokes walking through our tackles.
Tackles are effort related, you have to want to tackle, Im sure the coaches teach correct technique but you need the will to lay them. Matt Kennedy laid 7 tackles and put in effort.....Rowbottom had 16, Grundy and Heeney 8....they were just all over us everytime we got the ball in the middle.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by pertz -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Doesnt help when some of your blokes cant get the ball, wont lay a tackle and bail out of contests either.....those are non negotiables. Can accept losing on lack of talent caused by injuries but losing by lack of effort isnt on.

We appear to play in bursts in games. In many respects we are not an honest team because the effort turns off and on.
Top teams don't play like that and as EB says, you don't need talent to lay tackles, harass  chase etc.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Doesnt help when some of your blokes cant get the ball, wont lay a tackle and bail out of contests either.....those are non negotiables. Can accept losing on lack of talent caused by injuries but losing by lack of effort isnt on.
Agree. Seriously though, can we hire an NRL tackling coach? I'm sick of blokes walking through our tackles.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by ElwoodBlues1 -
Quote from: laj on
Swans have had 17 players who have played every game this year while we can't get a bloke on the park.
Doesnt help when some of your blokes cant get the ball, wont lay a tackle and bail out of contests either.....those are non negotiables. Can accept losing on lack of talent caused by injuries but losing by lack of effort isnt on.