Fremantle v Carlton
Round 16 - 17:40 AWST, Jul 18, 2015
Domain Stadium
Sheesh - where to begin. No Gibbs, no Army. Fyfe in. Playing on their dung heap. They will be looking to "make a statement" after being embarrassed by the Hawks.
This will be one to avoid.
Frockers by 70.
Cripps v Fyfe baby!
The rest of the game is set to be a disaster :-[
Lucky we have our reserves brimming with talent deserving a chance to play , mmm yep will be interesting alright
At least Freo has come to a screeching halt form wise. Though, they may be looking to belt someone to reclaim it.
Won't be many goals :D
Freo 2 vs Carlton 1
Cripps v Fyfe baby!
The rest of the game is set to be a disaster :-[
Reckon Cripps will have a tag like Mzungu on him and I dont see Barker letting Fyfe run around on his own either..we will need a combo of players to run with Fyfe....
Anything under 40 points will be a fair losing margin......
Fremantle v Carlton
Round 16 - 17:40 AWST, Jul 18, 2015
Domain Stadium
Sheesh - where to begin. No Gibbs, no Army. Fyfe in. Playing on their dung heap. They will be looking to "make a statement" after being embarrassed by the Hawks.
This will be one to avoid.
Frockers by 70.
There are some guys going around who can get away with almost anything and not get suspended. It looks like Fyffe is becoming one of them. There have been 3 or 4 times this year when he has got away with things that our players would be suspended for. He may have been a bit unlucky in the past, but that is certainly no longer the case.
As for Mitchell and Selwood, they appear to be charmer. Selwood should have got something similar to what Judd got a couple of years back. But he got 1 miserable week. Mitchell kneed another player and got nothing again. And Howe of Melbourne got away with another sling tackles that gave his opponent concussion!
Truly amazing!
Freo are hard to score against as well.....usually anyway.
Fremantle v Carlton
Round 16 - 17:40 AWST, Jul 18, 2015
Domain Stadium
Sheesh - where to begin. No Gibbs, no Army. Fyfe in. Playing on their dung heap. They will be looking to "make a statement" after being embarrassed by the Hawks.
This will be one to avoid.
Frockers by 70.
Well I for one won't be flying West! :)
After the ordinary performance against the hawks by Freo, Lyon will grill his side like its never been done before. The Dockers could end up giving us a serious lesson in football. We are too light on for depth at the moment. Barker is going to have a tough Saturday evening.
When you're watching from the sidelines it's easy to make some rather odd suggestions. So here's one.
Over the next two weeks we play probably the best two sides (being nudged strongly by Sydney and WC) so why not use this as an opportunity to play any young bloke you're wondering about to firstly see how he responds and secondly so he gets to experience first hand how the best go about it. Then perhaps rest any of our front line older blokes carrying a nasty niggle or two. Treat it as an education.
Specifically you'd play Whiley, Smith, Dick, Fields, Jaksch and Walsh... not sure if we're allowed to play Russell. Perhaps even Foster.
Give each of Murph, Jamison and Carrazzo a rest for one of those two games. Use these two upcoming games to expose, teach and to rest. Then for the remainder of the season set out to win. After these two upcoming games I believe we could win 4 or so games and finish around 14th and have a much better 2nd half to the year (perhaps even 5-6 from our second 11 games as opposed to 2-9 from our first 11). Or maybe I'm just bored and should get back to work! ;D
Specifically you'd play Whiley, Smith, Dick, Fields, Jaksch and Walsh... not sure if we're allowed to play Russell. Perhaps even Foster.
Have we replaced all of our Long term injuries....I think we upgraded Fields for Warnock.
With Gibbs out we can probably upgrade another.
Did we replace Thomas?
The interesting selection will be Yarran.
He shouldn't play based on last weeks effort.
With Gibbs and Armfield missing will they weaken on this?
It will take a bit of courage to do what should be done, given the weakened state of the side and the potential for a heavy loss.
Have we replaced all of our Long term injuries....I think we upgraded Fields for Warnock.
With Gibbs out we can probably upgrade another.
Did we replace Thomas?
The interesting selection will be Yarran.
He shouldn't play based on last weeks effort.
With Gibbs and Armfield missing will they weaken on this?
It will take a bit of courage to do what should be done, given the weakened state of the side and the potential for a heavy loss.
Maybe we should try Yazz in an attacking role v. Freo, see how he goes? If he's still ordinary then drop him. He doesn't deserve a game but we are short.
Maybe we should try Yazz in an attacking role v. Freo, see how he goes? If he's still ordinary then drop him. He doesn't deserve a game but we are short.
With Gibbs gone (and Juddy of course) I would definitely put Yazz in the midfield and make him work.
What we're really saying is 'give him a chance to redeem himself.'
Fair enough!
I'd also agree on the move forward.
Big plus if it comes off, and we know that he's capable of it.
...but he has to come with a different attitude or his playing will hurt us rather than help us
When you're watching from the sidelines it's easy to make some rather odd suggestions. So here's one.
Over the next two weeks we play probably the best two sides (being nudged strongly by Sydney and WC) so why not use this as an opportunity to play any young bloke you're wondering about to firstly see how he responds and secondly so he gets to experience first hand how the best go about it. Then perhaps rest any of our front line older blokes carrying a nasty niggle or two. Treat it as an education.
Specifically you'd play Whiley, Smith, Dick, Fields, Jaksch and Walsh... not sure if we're allowed to play Russell. Perhaps even Foster.
Give each of Murph, Jamison and Carrazzo a rest for one of those two games. Use these two upcoming games to expose, teach and to rest. Then for the remainder of the season set out to win. After these two upcoming games I believe we could win 4 or so games and finish around 14th and have a much better 2nd half to the year (perhaps even 5-6 from our second 11 games as opposed to 2-9 from our first 11). Or maybe I'm just bored and should get back to work! ;D
We need to start TANKING now. Don't discuss it in the media, or at the club...like NIKE... Just DO IT! I think we could win 3 more for the year, Collingwood, Melbourne and Brisbane. Let's tank the Brissy game. If we do, I've calculated we'll finish LAST. Might sound awful, but in reality it isn't. We get a gun tall forward (Pick 1) and Pick 19 which we could package up with Yarran/Henderson for another top tenner. All of a sudden, we're BACK.
Personally despise tanking. We've tried it in the past, and it hasn't worked. Melbourne has tried it, and it doesn't work. I've said it before, it's just a variation of the Messiah complex. Instead of waiting for gun trades to save us, instead of waiting successful coaches to save us, now we turn to elite pimply faced adolescents to save us.
We need to build a culture that despises losing, that despises giving less than 100% every game, that can really develop kids the way other clubs do. Into such a system, you then trade, draft, recruit players who have a framework in place, and something to actually aspire to. Not, "you're barely out of nappies, you need to save us."
Sorry, but that's my 2 bob's worth.
Personally despise tanking. We've tried it in the past, and it hasn't worked. Melbourne has tried it, and it doesn't work. I've said it before, it's just a variation of the Messiah complex. Instead of waiting for gun trades to save us, instead of waiting successful coaches to save us, now we turn to elite pimply faced adolescents to save us.
We need to build a culture that despises losing, that despises giving less than 100% every game, that can really develop kids the way other clubs do. Into such a system, you then trade, draft, recruit players who have a framework in place, and something to actually aspire to. Not, "you're barely out of nappies, you need to save us."
Sorry, but that's my 2 bob's worth.
Franklin, Lewis and Roughy were all once 'pimply faced adolescents'.
Franklin, Lewis and Roughy were all once 'pimply faced adolescents'.
They were indeed. So were Travis Johnstone, Murray Vance and a plethora of others.
The three you mention would've arguably turned to sop at our club. But that's my opinion.
Personally despise tanking. We've tried it in the past, and it hasn't worked. Melbourne has tried it, and it doesn't work. I've said it before, it's just a variation of the Messiah complex. Instead of waiting for gun trades to save us, instead of waiting successful coaches to save us, now we turn to elite pimply faced adolescents to save us.
We need to build a culture that despises losing, that despises giving less than 100% every game, that can really develop kids the way other clubs do. Into such a system, you then trade, draft, recruit players who have a framework in place, and something to actually aspire to. Not, "you're barely out of nappies, you need to save us."
Sorry, but that's my 2 bob's worth.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. When I suggested the above it was to 'balance' a learning experience and giving it our best against great opposition. They're two sides we won't beat but I give us a chance against any other sides bar the top 4.
Tanking is a cancer to culture. Should never even be contemplated. Losing to get a higher pick is not only what you accurately point out (player x is going to change everything for us - Messiah Complex continues) but is foolish beyond belief. The draft is not about our first pick only, it is much, much more than that.
Not sure we have to "tank" this week... i'd give the Greek economy more chance of staging a recovery.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. When I suggested the above it was to 'balance' a learning experience and giving it our best against great opposition. They're two sides we won't beat but I give us a chance against any other sides bar the top 4.
Tanking is a cancer to culture. Should never even be contemplated. Losing to get a higher pick is not only what you accurately point out (player x is going to change everything for us - Messiah Complex continues) but is foolish beyond belief. The draft is not about our first pick only, it is much, much more than that.
Fine then. Let's win 3 more and miss out on a 10 year Forward / Key Defender. Let's trade out Hendo too while we're at it. That way, we'll have a plethora of goal kickers in Casboult and Wood etc.
We have to reward good VFL form so Jaksch should play, I'd probably also play Byrne and Whiley or Vojo at a pinch.
Jaksch for Fields, Byrne for Gibbs, Whiley/Vojo for Armfield, Menzel should be dropped but the cupboard is bare.
This will be ugly.
We have to reward good VFL form so Jaksch should play, I'd probably also play Byrne and Whiley or Vojo at a pinch.
Jaksch for Fields, Byrne for Gibbs, Whiley/Vojo for Armfield, Menzel should be dropped but the cupboard is bare.
This will be ugly.
Looked like the Hawks manned up the Dockers spare when going forward.
I'm not sure what role Menzel is supposed to be playing, but he's giving us less than zero.
We have to reward good VFL form so Jaksch should play, I'd probably also play Byrne and Whiley or Vojo at a pinch.
Jaksch for Fields, Byrne for Gibbs, Whiley/Vojo for Armfield, Menzel should be dropped but the cupboard is bare.
This will be ugly.
Whiley and Viojo-Rainbow certainly don't deserve a call up on their NB's form. Whiley got the ball but did nothing with it.
Rowe has to come back and Jaksch and Byrne deserve to be considered. Fields did enough to earn another game but I can't see how Tutt can be retained; he lacks awareness and is not strong enough to stick a tackle. If we do make four changes, Smith would be my choice for the fourth spot, not that he is really crying out to be selected.
Whiley and Viojo-Rainbow certainly don't deserve a call up on their NB's form. Whiley got the ball but did nothing with it.
Rowe has to come back and Jaksch and Byrne deserve to be considered. Fields did enough to earn another game but I can't see how Tutt can be retained; he lacks awareness and is not strong enough to stick a tackle. If we do make four changes, Smith would be my choice for the fourth spot, not that he is really crying out to be selected.
I actually forgot about Rowe, he'll probably play.
I thought Fields looked miles off the pace and can't really understand what anyone saw in his game but we each see it differently I guess.
Jaksch did enough to earn a spot but none of the others really put their hands up, but we need to replace Gibbs and Armfield at a minimum so two players get a gig regardless, and Menzel's recent form has been well below standard.
To me Vojo at least looks to have some skills which are in short supply at the CFC so I'd take a punt on him for a game or two, he needs to harden up but that's probably more likely to happen in the seniors.
I agree about Smith, at least he has a crack and isn't frightened.
We'll get well beaten anyway, we might as well have a look at a few of the young blokes.
Docherty will be back, Rowe and Byrne in.
Docherty will be back, Rowe and Byrne in.
How did I forget Docherty? ::)
He will be an important inclusion an I wonder if he'll go into the midfield rotation.
Docherty will be back, Rowe and Byrne in.
That's not shabby, but Jaksch deserves a game ahead of Rowe on the VFL form from last Saturday.
We'll still get thumped.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. When I suggested the above it was to 'balance' a learning experience and giving it our best against great opposition. They're two sides we won't beat but I give us a chance against any other sides bar the top 4.
Tanking is a cancer to culture. Should never even be contemplated. Losing to get a higher pick is not only what you accurately point out (player x is going to change everything for us - Messiah Complex continues) but is foolish beyond belief. The draft is not about our first pick only, it is much, much more than that.
+1 to me here too.
Cimm take a picture of that one and frame it rather than the other childish crap.
Personally despise tanking. We've tried it in the past, and it hasn't worked. Melbourne has tried it, and it doesn't work. I've said it before, it's just a variation of the Messiah complex. Instead of waiting for gun trades to save us, instead of waiting successful coaches to save us, now we turn to elite pimply faced adolescents to save us.
We need to build a culture that despises losing, that despises giving less than 100% every game, that can really develop kids the way other clubs do. Into such a system, you then trade, draft, recruit players who have a framework in place, and something to actually aspire to. Not, "you're barely out of nappies, you need to save us."
Sorry, but that's my 2 bob's worth.
Absolutely!
No Carlton team should ever take the field without believing that they will win and doing their best to achieve that result. Anything less will lead to a culture where losing is acceptable or even the norm.
I don't believe in this winning culture stuff. That only happens when people see results. A bunch of guys who are getting thumped each week will not have their fortunes changed just by someone selling snake oil. Worse, it builds a fragile culture, where losing is the only thing driving performance. What happens when you drop 5 games? You either need a super charismatic leader who will convince the group everything will be okay or you're where we found ourselves in the early 2000s.
We need a culture whereplayers are looking to improve - always, year to year, game to game, quarter to quarter no matter what is happening on thescoreboardd because you will lose.
I don't believe in this winning culture stuff. That only happens when people see results. A bunch of guys who are getting thumped each week will not have their fortunes changed just by someone selling snake oil. Worse, it builds a fragile culture, where losing is the only thing driving performance. What happens when you drop 5 games? You either need a super charismatic leader who will convince the group everything will be okay or you're where we found ourselves in the early 2000s.
We need a culture whereplayers are looking to improve - always, year to year, game to game, quarter to quarter no matter what is happening on thescoreboardd because you will lose.
Effectively, the culture to improve is driven by the idea of a winning culture is what people are saying.
The goal is to win. How do we achieve it, hopefully is to improve. Not just as an individual but as a whole.
Oh, wait. Thats not our footy club. Our club's culture is replace what doesnt work till you find something that does...
:-\
Yeah you're right Thry, we should've kept Mick. :))
West Coast had a drug culture..didnt stop them winning premierships, Collingwood had a ratpack culture and it didnt stop them winning premierships either....I'm not saying to emulate those clubs but it comes down to winning games and to do that you need about 30-35 good footballers on your list and dont expect every player to be of the choir boy variety either.
Coaches turn a blind eye too as long as the 4 points are on the board each week......so dont tell me culture is coach driven all the time either....
West Coast had a drug culture..didnt stop them winning premierships, Collingwood had a ratpack culture and it didnt stop them winning premierships either....I'm not saying to emulate those clubs but it comes down to winning games and to do that you need about 30-35 good footballers on your list and dont expect every player to be of the choir boy variety either.
Coaches turn a blind eye too as long as the 4 points are on the board each week......so dont tell me culture is coach driven all the time either....
There are limits of course, and so long as those limits are understood and strictly adhered to, , then I agree.
culture with this group has won us 3 games,we should use 2015 to lay foundations of the new successful culture by recruiting the right players.(hope our rec department get it done), lets finish 2 last and begin the rebuild .
I think the whole 'culture' thing is a furphy, when it comes to football, at least in the sense of a 'winning' culture that 'refuses to accept' losing. Whether a player or a team wins or aims to win is not a matter of 'culture'. I don't think anyone would seriously suggest that winning is not the ultimate aim of everyone on our list, yet that has nothing to do with culture - its simply the nature of competitive sport. Further, we have to acknowledge that losing is, in fact, sometimes acceptable. This year for example, I think most of would agree that our losses under Barks have been in that category, at least to a greater extent than those earlier in the year. I think we need to allow that such acceptance might be ok within the team itself too. If culture plays a role, it must be about a whole lot of intangibles that equate to an environment of improving individuals and their relationships with each other - such things are so vague and difficult to define that they don't warrant discussion, IMHO. That seems to be what happened at Geelong, for example, but I couldn't say how they fostered it. But it isn't enough anyway, its a red herring. Culture can't change the simplest, most obvious failing we have - we can't kick. Honestly, 90% of the problem is that 90% of our players just can't.
Well yes, culture can and does change simple things like kicking. A culture of excellence, accountability, team first values and so on, pressure any individual whose disposal is not up to scratch to work especially hard to achieve and reach excellence. A culture of excellence increases work rate, endeavour and discipline on the field. Off the field culture ensures that training etc addresses, effectively, any weakness in any individuals game along with a host of other team values.
The right culture will be intolerant of poor kicking (and any other skill that lets down the team) and will deal with the issue with some vigour and commitment. Culture aint no furphy.
Welcome Damon and great first post!
Well yes, culture can and does change simple things like kicking. A culture of excellence, accountability, team first values and so on, pressure any individual whose disposal is not up to scratch to work especially hard to achieve and reach excellence. A culture of excellence increases work rate, endeavour and discipline on the field. Off the field culture ensures that training etc addresses, effectively, any weakness in any individuals game along with a host of other team values.
The right culture will be intolerant of poor kicking (and any other skill that lets down the team) and will deal with the issue with some vigour and commitment. Culture aint no furphy.
This is effectively what I am saying.
Yeah you're right Thry, we should've kept Mick. :))
You really don't understand what I am saying do you? Fork Malthouse. He is gone. Hopefully he keeps slinging salvo's our way in the media, so the club finally can figure out it will deflect them better by maintaining a United front. I am on the Barker train. WOOF WOOF.
Well yes, culture can and does change simple things like kicking. A culture of excellence, accountability, team first values and so on, pressure any individual whose disposal is not up to scratch to work especially hard to achieve and reach excellence. A culture of excellence increases work rate, endeavour and discipline on the field. Off the field culture ensures that training etc addresses, effectively, any weakness in any individuals game along with a host of other team values.
The right culture will be intolerant of poor kicking (and any other skill that lets down the team) and will deal with the issue with some vigour and commitment. Culture aint no furphy.
Baggers, I suppose I agree with that to some extent (though not about any weaknesses in any individual's game being addressed that way) but frankly, I'd be stunned if there were really that much of a difference in our 'culture', as you've described it, and that of many other clubs. In any case, and to be clearer, I don't think culture will make much difference all to the fundamental lack of disposal skills of the existing group. If 'culture' includes changing the group over to get players in with genuine skill, I'm all for it, but I think that goes beyond what most people think of culture. Semantics, perhaps.
I think the whole 'culture' thing is a furphy, when it comes to football, at least in the sense of a 'winning' culture that 'refuses to accept' losing. Whether a player or a team wins or aims to win is not a matter of 'culture'. I don't think anyone would seriously suggest that winning is not the ultimate aim of everyone on our list, yet that has nothing to do with culture - its simply the nature of competitive sport. Further, we have to acknowledge that losing is, in fact, sometimes acceptable. This year for example, I think most of would agree that our losses under Barks have been in that category, at least to a greater extent than those earlier in the year. I think we need to allow that such acceptance might be ok within the team itself too. If culture plays a role, it must be about a whole lot of intangibles that equate to an environment of improving individuals and their relationships with each other - such things are so vague and difficult to define that they don't warrant discussion, IMHO. That seems to be what happened at Geelong, for example, but I couldn't say how they fostered it. But it isn't enough anyway, its a red herring. Culture can't change the simplest, most obvious failing we have - we can't kick. Honestly, 90% of the problem is that 90% of our players just can't.
Welcome and good post.
I can't say i agree with it all though.
Nobody is doubted the fact that we can't kick. Nobody is suggested that a good culture will solve that problem. These things are not connected.
We have a poor culture AND we have a poorly skilled list.
Fixing both is important to our success in the future.
Fixing only one, will still leave us struggling for success.
You say you don't know how to define and thus fix the culture....so its not worth discussing. Disagree. I think its a major problem with our club and it MUST be fixed. We should be doing and trying everything possible to fix it.
As we've all seen a change in coach led to a change in performance. Fleeting or otherwise is yet to be seen, but the initial change is obvious.
Why not apply the same logic to the board? Yes we have a new president, but he's not really new is he. He's just stepped up.
Culture changing needs to start at the top.
The biggest issue is the most significant leadership figure of our club for the past 3 years was a finger pointer, drank his own bath water and then gave up when things got too tough. That has trickled down into the playing group.
Which is why a tiny bit of positivity has made an enormous difference. The next guy will need a fair bit of charisma and patience.
What about the 10 years before that?
What about the 10 years before that?
Only interested in recent history.
What about the 10 years before that?
There's a lot to overcome. Half the list has only been around for a short time though. Could be bad or good.
Meaty discussion this culture stuff.
Yes, right to point out as some have that 'culture' must get buy in from every section of the club, including the Board. Which means Board Members, yes you, need to up your game as well. If the players squabbled and got into factions on the field as you do behind closed doors, we'd be cactus for an eternity. Get on the same page, leave your egos in the car park... or FO and make way for someone who loves the club and not the sound of their own voice.
Looks to me that Trigg and Presidente understand this and are making positive moves to turn the good ship PP around and away from past mistakes and toward strategies that work in today's environment/realities. And thus far JB has also shown he's bought into this and is prepared to steer a vastly improved culture in his area of responsibility. But this will take time.
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That's the culture I like! Get out there and feckin' WIN!
Keep it simple............. Inspire me! ;)
Meaty discussion this culture stuff.
Yes, right to point out as some have that 'culture' must get buy in from every section of the club, including the Board. Which means Board Members, yes you, need to up your game as well. If the players squabbled and got into factions on the field as you do behind closed doors, we'd be cactus for an eternity. Get on the same page, leave your egos in the car park... or FO and make way for someone who loves the club and not the sound of their own voice.
Looks to me that Trigg and Presidente understand this and are making positive moves to turn the good ship PP around and away from past mistakes and toward strategies that work in today's environment/realities. And thus far JB has also shown he's bought into this and is prepared to steer a vastly improved culture in his area of responsibility. But this will take time.
I don't want to turn this into another Malthouse discussion but I think Barker is focused on team success whereas Malthouse was more focused on himself.
Getting the playing group (and the Board, coaching staff, etc) to put team success first is essential if we are to be really competitive.
Brad Walsh has been elevated and Gibbs on to the long term injury list. I'd say he'll debut this week.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/621575437861285888
Brad Walsh has been elevated and Gibbs on to the long term injury list. I'd say he'll debut this week.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/621575437861285888
Walsh goes all right, he doesn't look anything special but neither did Nick Graham, not that I'm suggesting that Graham will be the next Diesel Williams.
We need to try as many of these young blokes as we can, if they show a glimpse or two then persevere, if not then cut them before we waste time like we have in the past.
Brad Walsh has been elevated and Gibbs on to the long term injury list. I'd say he'll debut this week.
https://twitter.com/AFL_PKeane/status/621575437861285888
Great...I'm already on the bandwagon and be nice for him to debut at home...
Rowe, Dochety and Walsh in...Wood, Gibbs and Armys arm out...Wood is unlucky given Rowe didnt do much in the NB's and Sandilands needs two genuine ruckman to work in tandem against him..
Great...I'm already on the bandwagon and be nice for him to debut at home...
Rowe, Dochety and Walsh in...
Wood, Gibbs and Armys arm out...Wood is unlucky given Rowe didnt do much in the NB's and Sandilands needs two genuine ruckman to work in tandem against him..
yeah, strange call on the ruck department. Fields gets another go.
Very strange omitting Wood. Me thinks a late change may eventuate, or maybe it's going to piss down rain?
Have to admit, I love an Elwood smokey so looking forward to seeing Walsh debut.
Edit: Was WA captain in the Under 18 Championships! Impressive CV.
8 players from them rookie list in the side this week.
Hard to believe it's already round 16 huh? Remember Freo were all the rage for the first 7-8 rounds, boy how much have they dropped off? Pity we have so many out.
Very strange omitting Wood.
Wood has been a warrior this year but he has been struggling to jump off the ground in recent weeks so he would be uncompetitive against the big bloke. I am content to see Rowe and/or Levi providing relief for Kreuzer.
Wood has been a warrior this year but he has been struggling to jump off the ground in recent weeks so he would be uncompetitive against the big bloke. I am content to see Rowe and/or Levi providing relief for Kreuzer.
That is pretty accurate. He struggled last week against Hampson. But the, so did Kreuzer.
Wood will be back, but he does need to get some form and confidence up. Much better chance of doing that against Casey than against Freo.
Fremantle
B: Lee Spurr, Luke McPharlin, Garrick Ibbotson.
HB: Danyle Pearce, Alex Pearce, Stephen Hill.
C : Tommy Sheridan, Nat Fyfe, Nick Suban.
HF: Michael Barlow, Chris Mayne, Matt de Boer.
F: Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Pavlich, Michael Walters.
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, David Mundy, Lachie Neale.
Int: Jonathon Griffin, Matt Taberner, Cameron Sutcliffe, Hayden Crozier.
Emg: Lachie Weller, Ed Langdon, Zac Clarke.
In: Jonathon Griffin, Matt Taberner, Cameron Sutcliffe, Hayden Crozier.
Out: Paul Duffield (Omitted), Tendai Mzungu (Omitted), Clancee Pearce (Omitted), Zac Clarke (Omitted)
Carlton
B: Simon White, Michael Jamison, Tom Fields.
HB: Chris Yarran, Zach Tuohy, Dylan Buckley.
C: Kade Simpson, Andrew Carrazzo, Sam Docherty.
HF: Ed Curnow, Tom Bell, Andrejs Everitt.
F: Levi Casboult, Lachie Henderson, Troy Menzel.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Patrick Cripps, Marc Murphy.
Int: Nick Holman, Sam Rowe, Jason Tutt, Brad Walsh.
Emg: Blaine Boekhorst, Matthew Dick, Mark Whiley.
In: Sam Docherty, Sam Rowe, Brad Walsh.
Out: Bryce Gibbs (pectoral muscle), Cameron Wood (Omitted), Dennis Armfield (arm).
New: Brad Walsh
We are not going to beat Sandilands in the air, so we have to beat him around the ground.....run!
That is not Woods strong point, especially since he has been labouring of late.
I reckon we'll see the likes of Casboult/Rowe try and run him around a bit.
We are not going to beat Sandilands in the air, so we have to beat him around the ground.....run!
That is not Woods strong point, especially since he has been labouring of late.
I reckon we'll see the likes of Casboult/Rowe try and run him around a bit.
I hope Zac Clarke isn't a late inclusion.
You're right though, Kreuzer and Wood combined couldn't beat Sandilands in the ruck. Fortunately, he hasn't had much impact around the ground and that could provide an opportunity for an advantage. The real test will be whether our midfielders can shark Sandiland's hitouts and/or stop the Dockers getting clearances.
Back after a week without internet, but a 5 goal performance against richmond hardly made for regrets.
A weakened team, and the grind of the season can now be seen. Wood has done well this season, but has looked tired of late. Moreover, it makes no sense to try and take on sandilands in the tapouts. He is just too tall. Given how such dominance for freo has little consequence for such matters as scoring we may as well go for the extra run.
They will be in quite a grump after the belting from hawthorn, so we will need to restrict their run, and hopefully force errors. Their defence is weak, so if we can get it inside one on one way may be able to keep up. Good ball use is critical at subiaco ( as it is everywhere) but it does reward quick switches across the ground as defenders are often spread out due to its length.
Not expecting much, but a solid 4 quarter effort might see us go close if a few things go our way. The likes of everitt have a good opportunity to run and make good position, but they will have work very hard.
If we're to have any show against this mob we'll need much improved performances from Bell, Yarran, Everitt, Henderson and Menzel - blokes who are capable of delivering much more than they have of late.
Great...I'm already on the bandwagon and be nice for him to debut at home...
Rowe, Dochety and Walsh in...
Wood, Gibbs and Armys arm out...Wood is unlucky given Rowe didnt do much in the NB's and Sandilands needs two genuine ruckman to work in tandem against him..
Go Brad!!
Walsh is the sub.
Feeling very nervous about this one! I'm going out (next door) to a birthday party now - will catch up with things a bit later on.