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Yet now make us look like amateurs

We can go on like this all day.

Simple answer is, BB has done nothing at all to show he can coach.
Some like him because he is a teacher and has a softer side than most coaches.

I don't believe that will cut it, he needs a lot of ability and he isn't showing any of it.

Coaches need to be tough and ruthless, not in a cruel way, but non negotiable s on the basics cannot be brushed over.
We saw on Sunday that Bolton does not have that stuff sorted after 3 years.

A few on here have touted the lack of a Hodge type, ACoS provided glimpses of what that sort of aggression can bring to he team, it's not about who is leader or role model but an attitude.

To many it's obvious what we lack, yet we seem disinterested in that type of player.

No doubt such a player would be a valuable addition, but because we're lacking in this department we should sack Bolton ?

No doubt such a player would be a valuable addition, but because we're lacking in this department we should sack Bolton ?

When you've won 3 out of 36 4th year into a rebuild, yes, I probably would as would every other club. Keeping going with the same thing likely gives you the same results. Let's face it, those results are nothing short of diabolical. The very reason we swapped our first picks with Adelaide is they thought there'd be significant improvement up the ladder, which is what they said. There is none.

No coach could have done much better when you are turning over 1/3 of the list and bringing in kids for 3 seasons straight.

I think that Liddle’s comments provide the best summary.  He basically said that blaming Bolton was wrong as the situation the club is in is the responsibility of everyone involved. 

If Bolton was to be sacked (and I doubt that will happen unless we don’t climb the ladder in 2020), the players, the board, administration, assistant coaches, list managers, fitness staff and the bootstudder must be sacked too.

People don't care about that certain fact, they just want wins.

No coach could have done much better when you are turning over 1/3 of the list and bringing in kids for 3 seasons straight.

Absolute crap. That's just an excuse to reinforce your argument. Our side has always been better than that. Even if a side is really bad they do better than 3 from 36.

All sides that rebuild have big list changes. Sides like Richmond under Hardwick, Melbourne under Roos/Goodwin, were finals or close to it after 4 years. Dogs under McCartney, no good, under Beverige, premiers. A good coach gets the most out of their players. people said the same thing when Pagan coached us then within 2 years they played finals. Port played finals the year after they were hopeless under Primus. Swans were so bad they lost 22 games straight in the early 90s. Come Barassi, they went close to finals within two years then under Eade Grand Finalists the next year. So don't give me the crap that that no one would've done any better. Good coaches do make improvements out of any player. Same in any sport, which I can testify to first hand. No decent coach goes 3 from 36.

None of them, that is none of them, did that by turning over 30% of their senior list each pre-season, that's the ignored fact!

There is zero historical predicents for what we have done, we cannot even use newbies like GWS or GC as an example because they had advantages in academies and lots of AFL help we didn't get!

The strategy that was put in place with Bolton, SOS et al was for long term success. This was made very clear at the beginning. What was hidden from view (for obvious reasons) was that by extension, this meant short term pain. The strategy may succeed brilliantly, or it may be an epic fail. We simply don't know. We need to see it through. Stage 1, which is the 3 year rebuild, is now done. Stage 2 has to be allowed to play out first.

Correct, we only have four number 1 picks, plus a pick 2, 2 x pick 3 and a pick 5, 2 x pick 10's and a pick 12.
Plus a guy called Cripps.

Absolute crap. That's just an excuse to reinforce your argument. Our side has always been better than that. Even if a side is really bad they do better than 3 from 36.

All sides that rebuild have big list changes. Sides like Richmond under Hardwick, Melbourne under Roos/Goodwin, were finals or close to it after 4 years. Dogs under McCartney, no good, under Beverige, premiers. A good coach gets the most out of their players. people said the same thing when Pagan coached us then within 2 years they played finals. Port played finals the year after they were hopeless under Primus. Swans were so bad they lost 22 games straight in the early 90s. Come Barassi, they went close to finals within two years then under Eade Grand Finalists the next year. So don't give me the crap that that no one would've done any better. Good coaches do make improvements out of any player. Same in any sport, which I can testify to first hand. No decent coach goes 3 from 36.

Agreed.

We can post our various beliefs or doubts, but they do not make a good argument for changing direction!

So you think our young top end talent is the problem?