Carlton Supporters Club

All facts need to be seen in context, facts used to win arguments are simply bullets being fired to prove a point are just being used to reinforce an already held preconception. Facts should be used to enlighten not prove. The reality is that we have played a top 4 side, a top 8 side and a top 12 side in the first three weeks. We played Richmond with there whole fab 4 and haven't been anywhere near as good without them, we played Port away and we played Sydney at Etihad which actually suits them, I would have liked to have got them on the bigger MCG. Gold Coast on the other hand have played 3 bottom six sides. Clearly we have played better than last year but we still haven't won anything. This will be our second interstate trip and travel is more difficult for Victorian sides than non-Victorian sides because interstate travel would be built into a non-Victorian sides normal processes. Gold Coast will be our first bottom six side whereas we will be there fourth. Clearly the Membership and the supporters are backing the Club at the moment which is demonstrated by the attendance and the Membership numbers, however we really need to win.

But Bolton was the coach in 2017 ! Doesn't that tell you something ? Do you think he's forgotten how to coach ? Don't tell me you think "he's lost the players" ?

All facts need to be seen in context, facts used to win arguments are simply bullets being fired to prove a point are just being used to reinforce an already held preconception. Facts should be used to enlighten not prove. The reality is that we have played a top 4 side, a top 8 side and a top 12 side in the first three weeks. We played Richmond with there whole fab 4 and haven't been anywhere near as good without them, we played Port away and we played Sydney at Etihad which actually suits them, I would have liked to have got them on the bigger MCG. Gold Coast on the other hand have played 3 bottom six sides. Clearly we have played better than last year but we still haven't won anything. This will be our second interstate trip and travel is more difficult for Victorian sides than non-Victorian sides because interstate travel would be built into a non-Victorian sides normal processes. Gold Coast will be our first bottom six side whereas we will be there fourth. Clearly the Membership and the supporters are backing the Club at the moment which is demonstrated by the attendance and the Membership numbers, however we really need to win.

Simple thinking.

Tells you he's not taking the next step and we're heading backwards. Once he had to get out of our defensive way we were playing early on he was lost. Ceased to get the best out of the players. That's been obvious. Game plan we have no idea of, we are very poorly drilled. 3 wins out of 35, what does that tell you. There's no argument there. That is diabolical. Fact is he's sent us backwards in 2 years. You point to what you want, I'll put to the scoreboard.

I'm definitely no fan or honorable losses. I remember thinking during the last game "I am so sick of losing"
I want to be able to start watching games with my son. At the moment Im shielding him from games as I know he wont continue supporting if we are losing every week, and at 6 years old, why would he.
BUT..
Seriously, this is the 4th coach we have had since we were last successful.
When does it become something other than the coach that is causing our losses?
When does it become a folly to keep sacking coaches for lack of results?
4 coaches who have struggled to get the team working properly. That tells me more about the team than it does about just the coach.
We are turning over around 25% of our list each year. That may be one reason we seem to lack cohesion, and why we are struggling to get with a game plan consistently.

I may be wrong but I vaguely remember we were a finals side, or close to it, from about 2009 to 20013

This has been a deliberate gutting rather than a more moderate transition
That's fair enough but folk have to start taking some ownership of that,

I may be wrong but I vaguely remember we were a finals side, or close to it, from about 2009 to 20013

This has been a deliberate gutting rather than a more moderate transition
That's fair enough but folk have to start taking some ownership of that,

But Bolton was the coach in 2017 ! Doesn't that tell you something ? Do you think he's forgotten how to coach ? Don't tell me you think "he's lost the players" ?

7 wins in a season is hardly something to suggest great coaching ability. BB, sadly, at this stage, seems to be a one-dimensional coach... defensive & conservative. He does that well. And as that rootin' tootin' Magnum 45 tot'n dude once said... 'Man's got to know his limitations.'

It's more the 3 wins from 35. In 2017 we won 6 games and led 7 other times in last qtrs before losing. 13 times we led in the last qtr. Since then we have gone along way backwards. That's the issue. We've won 15 games from 69, 12 in the first half of Bolton's tenure, 6 of those wins in 7 games. So outside of that burst we've won 9 whole games. Irrespective of where you're at as a club that is diabolical.

Let me simplify this argument for you.

Record of Carlton Games played with Sam Docherty:  6 wins from 22 matches in 2017

Record of Carlton Games played without Sam Docherty:  2 wins from 25 matches ever since.

If you expand that out to Matty Kreuzer, we have managed to win 1 game with either of them missing since the start of 2017 (it was against the Gold Coast in QLD last year).


It speaks for how reliant we are on our better players to perform.