Carlton Supporters Club

As bad as it gets......short memories by way too many on here.

Yes, the reactions are over the top bizarre at the moment.

I understand the frustrations, but I can't see any logic in the suggested remedy as it's coming across as a burn the house down approach!

Too many seem to be revelling in the Flubbo and Jab Snr smugness, it makes me very uncomfortable as a Carlton fan that many of my compatriots might be so fickle and fans and so susceptible to external suggestions.

Oddly, when we are on I think we are now far far better to watch than we have been for many years. The 4-Qtr problem remains, but get the balance right and we'll win the close ones, and be 8 from 4 instead of 4 from 8.

For several years we couldn't score, we blamed the players, we blamed the coach. The players are still there and can now score, regardless of the kicking accuracy we generate shots that we couldn't previous and the players are fundamentally the same crew.

The playing value of Eddie Betts has been questioned a bit especially earlier in the season.
He's playing some pretty good football at the moment.
He is one whose value is good, and place in the side is more than merited.

But I've also noticed that at breaks in play (after goals etc) he's very animated with the other players, talking, explaining, instructing...whatever it is, it's like having an assistant coach on the field.

Bolton had the first 4 years of the reset. Teague has had years 5 and 6.

Here we go....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-to-launch-external-review-of-football-department-20210607-p57yul.html?fbclid=IwAR3OPdbJRSjBJx_2-x6Gv8ioOLtTW20fDwua2ASLMlgDXLqqz2W-SUwNvhM

Yep...thats the we are done for 2021 call and lets order the timber for the gallows and find ourselves a scape goat.

Agree.

People are being so black and white they should go follow the pies.

People are basically complaining that we are not finals bound
People fail to realise that while that is true, we are no longer on the bottom of the ladder.

Improvement has been obvious. Yes, its slower than we all want, but the 'logic' of nuking the place to start again hasn't worked the last 6 times, but its SURE to work this time....its laughable.
If for no other reason than to try something different for the first time in 20 years, lets stick with the coach and give him what he needs....players, assistants....whatever.

Read post 148 by WASurfer and tell me where he is wrong.

Where you accuse people of seeing black and white I believe the bulk of what they are seeing is grey and an acceptance that our rebuild has been a failure.

You take comfort from the fact that we are not on the bottom of the ladder.  But where we are now and where we are heading is surely cold comfort for where we are in this rebuild.

You take comfort from the fact that under Teague our losses are not as bad as they used to be.  Big deal.  We are still losing.

With my view on our loss on Sunday you would no doubt place me with the black and white brigade.

I do not know the Eagles players well.  From the way they played it was not possible to single out their five newcomers.  They all played as a cohesive unit to a set plan and carried it out well enough to embarrass us.

Watching our response to them soon showed a side seemingly unwilling or unable to follow a game plan - if indeed we have one - and crushing the hopes of supporters.

Yes, after 6 six years it is reasonable to expect we should be knocking on the doors of the 8.  It is being done by sides who were below us while we are now bumbling along trying to work out what has gone wrong. 

Is it the coach and/or coaching staff?  Is it the Board?  Is it poor recruitment? Is it poor development of players? Etc, etc.

While all the questions are being asked with no easy answers, we will remain a shambles.