Re: Soccer fans' behaviour
Reply #52 –
Does anyone seriously believe we'd ever have a system where violent offenders are subjected to violence in order to curb their violent behaviour....1014 maybe not 2014.
Ever seen A Clockwork Orange?
Interesting movie
Great piece of fiction
So Lodsie, I know you've worked in prisons and what not for a long time. Have you never at least felt the urge or the thought cross your mind to kick them up their defiant arses?
Never Gozz
Because once you lose control in that situation..... You've lost big time....and that can be career ending, or even worse, leave you open to charges yourself.
Defiant behaviour is often designed for exactly that purpose..... to get under your skin.
So you separate the behaviour from the individual...and never take things personally.
You see for many of these guys (and girls) the expectation is that if they're abusive and defiant you'll react physically...that's what happens at home.
They can't cope with someone who stays calm and doesn't react.
It unbalances them....and it's effective because in most cases you have control.
If not.... it buys time until your support staff arrive.
(I will add that support in the custodial settings I've worked in has always been pretty good...duress alarms and radios are worn and assistance is always pretty prompt.)
Spot on... Capt. LODS.
As mentioned previously I worked for a short period about 25 years ago in a female 'correctional facility'. The girls were under the age of 18. It was especially challenging at times because so many of the girls were in there after being sexually violated by males, about my age (at that time). What you write is exactly the best approach ...especially being the only male 'youth worker' at the place. Gaining trust was the major goal.
And GozzMan, I never ever felt like kicking any of them in the @rse. When you learn the 'human' story of most folks in 'correctional facilities' compassion, education, strong therapy and understanding become the dominant factors. People I know who deal with refugees report a very similar situation... when you know the real 'human' story, so much changes. Probably explains why governments, especially conservative governments, seek to demonise refugees... if we knew the 'human' story...