Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:35:17 pm

Quote from: BluePhantom on March 16, 2014, 10:32:34 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:31:16 pm

Shown up in the fitness stakes.

Couldn't maintain the first quarter defensive efforts.
Skills then fall away.
Tackles drop off a cliff.

But we still could have won so maybe we have some hope.

Take the rose coloured glasses off 79!

It's exactly what happened.

Fitness is key and at the moment we don't have a good enough level.

I'll add another thing. Backlines also get exposed when the rest of the side can't get back to assist.

I'm hoping Buttifant has a plan.

We conceded 6 goals straight from about halfway through the second quarter to about 5 minutes into the third quarter.Players were fresh after half time and three of those goal came then. We had 34 tackles to half time but only 2 halfway through the third quarter.

I have started my delist/trade list for the years end 2014:

Robinson
Watson
Kruezer
Warnock
Walker
Waite
Jamison

- just a start

No club would touch Robinson.

Saw enough tonight to fairly say we are going downhill.   Malthouse i slowly bleeding the life out of this club.   The whole club needs a reality check.  We are no where near winning a flag with this lot.   11am my arse.

 We need an injection of youth.  We can no longer rely on the old brigade to get us over the line.

Quote from: shadesy on March 16, 2014, 11:30:29 pm

No club would touch Robinson.

I reckon a handful would, if only to provide some protection for their younger guys.

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on March 16, 2014, 10:39:40 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:35:17 pm

Quote from: BluePhantom on March 16, 2014, 10:32:34 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:31:16 pm

Shown up in the fitness stakes.

Couldn't maintain the first quarter defensive efforts.
Skills then fall away.
Tackles drop off a cliff.

But we still could have won so maybe we have some hope.

Take the rose coloured glasses off 79!

It's exactly what happened.

Fitness is key and at the moment we don't have a good enough level.

I'll add another thing. Backlines also get exposed when the rest of the side can't get back to assist.

I'm hoping Buttifant has a plan.

We conceded 6 goals straight from about halfway through the second quarter to about 5 minutes into the third quarter.Players were fresh after half time and three of those goal came then. We had 34 tackles to half time but only 2 halfway through the third quarter.

11 games last year we were 15 points up or more and conceded 5 or more goals on the run.

Nothing has changed.

MM praised that we turned over 25% of the list and only plays 2 new players, and starts a genuine talent as sub and rolls out the same side... Cripps, Menzel, Holmam, Giles, Buckley. Time to bite the bullet Mick

I thought Jammo did some OK stuff tonight, but he was surrounded by panic merchants which made his job horrible. The defence wasn't to blame for the 2nd quarter, that was our on ball division being smashed at stoppages.

The torp, dead unlucky, we had 3 players to 1 streaming onto that ball and it bounced backwards over all of them. None of them had the brains to read the bounce. That wasn't Jammo's fault.

Take a look at the highlight of the Yarran goal, check out how it all started, we need more of that not less.

Quote from: age on March 16, 2014, 11:05:56 pm

Saw enough tonight to fairly say we are going downhill.   Malthouse i slowly bleeding the life out of this club.   The whole club needs a reality check.  We are no where near winning a flag with this lot.   11am my arse.

 We need an injection of youth.  We can no longer rely on the old brigade to get us over the line.

X2.

Sadly we have had a long running inbuilt mentality that we can buy/trade in established players, premiership coaches, experienced trainers etc and they alone will make as a force.

When are we going to accept that this is not the 80s anymore. Have a sad history now of thinking we can simply get one of two 'messiahs' and 'bang' that alone will get us to the next level.

User that mindset in getting Judd, Pratt, Swan, Malthouse and now Thomas.

How long is every man and his dog going to say 'we are an ok side but lack hard bodies mids 1-2 key stay at home forwards and defenders. 

So who do we target - a finishing mid who has a huge injury cloud over him and another 2-3 tier running swing men.

And lost our only true small consistent forward in the process.

Our forward set up has not changed in 10 years. No system at all.

Tough times ahead.

Quote from: shadesy on March 16, 2014, 11:15:04 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on March 16, 2014, 10:39:40 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:35:17 pm

Quote from: BluePhantom on March 16, 2014, 10:32:34 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on March 16, 2014, 10:31:16 pm

Shown up in the fitness stakes.

Couldn't maintain the first quarter defensive efforts.
Skills then fall away.
Tackles drop off a cliff.

But we still could have won so maybe we have some hope.

Take the rose coloured glasses off 79!

It's exactly what happened.

Fitness is key and at the moment we don't have a good enough level.

I'll add another thing. Backlines also get exposed when the rest of the side can't get back to assist.

I'm hoping Buttifant has a plan.

We conceded 6 goals straight from about halfway through the second quarter to about 5 minutes into the third quarter.Players were fresh after half time and three of those goal came then. We had 34 tackles to half time but only 2 halfway through the third quarter.

11 games last year we were 15 points up or more and conceded 5 or more goals on the run.

Nothing has changed.

MM praised that we turned over 25% of the list and only plays 2 new players, and starts a genuine talent as sub and rolls out the same side... Cripps, Menzel, Holmam, Giles, Buckley. Time to bite the bullet Mick

Might be time Shades, but if you are going to play a lot of those kids at once then you better get ready for some pain. We would have lost by 70 tonight with more guys who can't run out games.

Dockers and Hawks will show whats required this year. 4/4 of merciless grinding football.