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Messages - Stone Motherless

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Football Department Review
Absolute crap show what's going on at the moment. How can the board, in good conscience, leave Teague hanging out to dry while they are actively white-anting him - not even behind his back, but in plain sight. Effectively asking him to hang around while we bring in your replacement! A circus.

Teague has every right to tell them to GAGF.

Perhaps 'in good conscience' is actually their problem. They don't know what one is. Thrown good money after bad at problems and hope they go away for years.

Biggest problem is that this club does not belong to the members. Benefactors own it. It's been at the whim of the Pratt's and Mathieson's for years. They are the cancer that poisons the place.

The club must return to the members.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
And one other thing, in pre-empting the Murphy hate, if anyone can enlighten me as to how Murph may have impacted/caused todays poor result, I'm keen to hear it. Should make for interesting reading.

He's been part of the core group responsible for the standards acceptable by their peers. Been a conditional player for many, many years. He epitomises why we are where we are. Not really his fault though, it is who he is... Our gutless MCs and board over the years have refused to make difficult decisions.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Very harsh.

No doubt he has his limitations but his strength is in winning contested ball and he is that good at it that every single team in the comp would love having him in their midfield group playing that exact role which considering where we are says enough to suggest he is far from a problem in our team.

The issue with our club is Cripps weakness is highlighted in every loss by the lack of defensive cover from the remaining midfield group who overall apart from Walsh are plodders at best. Its a simplistic approach to suggest Cripps lack of defensive running is a major reason we get slaughter in the midfield most weeks. The lack of running midfielders depth wise we have is alarming and until we get adequate support in there nothing will change.  Kennedy, Dow and Setterfield are not the answer. 

Do you think Dusty Martin has ever been a hard 2 way runner? Judd at his best looked lazy defensively at times.  The very best mids usually have this as a weaknesses - its just that the better teams have the players in that area that provide the cover to stop their champs being exploited.

We dont have that luxury.
    

 

You're not lumping Cripps in with Dusty are you? Not in the same postcode. I love the guy, but be honest, Cripps doesn't impact going fwd.

Watch who the opposition send to him, then watch how effective that player is around the ground. Coaches target him and it costs us every game. Yes it's a 'team' midfield and we are very shallow, but crippa is almost a lead weight on that group of aforementioned C-graders.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Been going on for a while, think Nathan Buckley started it a while back, rather than trying to stop Cripps you run a good player off him and hope he can cause more damage because Cripps is incapable of manning up on anyone as he is too slow. Cripps needs to learn how to play forward more so we can rotate more mids who can stop that ploy.

Yep, unfortunately he isn't skilled, quick or crafty enough to play as a forward. Been a complete liability for the majority of the last two years.

Six years to go.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Way too many hacks out there

The issue?
VFL at most clubs = Newnes, Plowman, Newman, LOB
Plus Fisher was putrid, Betts putrid, Dow putrid, Kennedy poor, etc etc the latter two too inconsistent
Plus our Captain won’t run back, Jack Martin can’t keep his feet and C Curnow can’t jump

50% of the starting 22. No hope.

All over for another year


You watch the way the brownlow goes this year, the opposition's most dominant player is almost exclusively opposed to Cripps EVERY SINGLE WEEK. He gets murdered on transition and in general play.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Passion; AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
This is simply a rotten club. They show what they can do when they have a crack in the rare times they put in. Sadly they don't do it enough on a weekly basis.

Teague isn't going to survive that, like Ratten wasn't in 2012. Best we start looking I suppose so we get in ahead of Collingwood. Start at Don Pyke. Let's see if we can kill his career off.

Absolutely rotten to the core, soulless rabble. And it's way deeper than the coach and players.

I'm of the firm belief that the Pratt's and Mathison's are the poison that run thru the club.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: In Game Action: AFL Rd 21: Carlton vs. Gold Coast
I actually can’t believe what I’m watching

After last weeks efforts this is the most PUTRID F******* display I have witnessed and I am beyond pissed off!

We would’ve been 9th!!!!!! Now where who cares another nothing fcking season seeya later
We were OK, the saints were fcking appalling. They allowed us to play on our terms.

Our blokes are kidding themselves.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
Injuries haven't been that unkind?

2 games ago we didn't have a key forward on the park, and we are playing jack silvagni as relief ruck for at least 4 matches now.

Our list might be smaller than it was last week, but that doesn't mean we haven't 17 names on it less than 2 weeks ago, even if some of them did play last week.  Harry wasn't exactly running last week whilst on the park.
Harry missed one game where structurally we fell to pieces.
Levi, Murphy, Pittonet, Setterfield, McDonald, Gibbons, Marchbank, McGovern. All seconds players. If the club is using injuries to these guys as an excuse, I suppose that tells you why we are where we are.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre Game Promise AFL Rd21: Carlton vs Gold Coast
16? A bit of mayo on that number.
Eddie Betts   Named
1 Jordan Boyd   Knee   "We won't see him for at least a month." Update: 6 July
Levi Casboult    Named
2 David Cuningham   Knee   Out for remainder of season.
Tom De Koning   Named
3 Sam Docherty   Ankle   "He won't play again in the home-and-away season." Update: 26 July
4 Michael Gibbons   Hamstring   Out for remainder of season. Update: 26 July
5 Caleb Marchbank   Knee   Out for remainder of season.
6 Oscar McDonald   Back    "We think he needs a couple of weeks of full training to get back to playing but it’s looking like we’ll see him again this year, which is really exciting." Update: 20 July
Mitch McGovern   Named
7 Alex Mirkov   Knee   "We're getting him in shape to play: whether he plays this year remains to be seen." Update: 13 July
8 Sam Philp   Groin   Out for remainder of season.
9 Marc Pittonet   Ankle   Returning to running this week: chance to return in final weeks of season. Update: 26 July
10 Will Setterfield   Groin   Experiencing low-grade groin soreness. Unavailable this weekend. Update: 26 July
11 Zac Williams   Hamstring   Low-grade hamstring. Expected to miss 2-3 weeks. Update: 26 July


Docherty, Williams and maybe Cuningham the only three walk up starts... And that's being very generous on their 2021 output. Injuries haven't been that unkind to us.