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Looking at that second graph, it's a massive credit to Weitering and Jones that, despite having the greatest number of 1v1's of the players graphed (each has about 6 1v1's per game), they have the highest win rate of those contests. Massive tick for both.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-17/what-has-gone-wrong-with-carlton-this-year/100218856

I don't know whether this has been posted before but this article may explain why we have been struggling and will continue to do so unless things change.

Richmond have always seemed to get numbers to the ball down back and their 1 vs 1's turn in to 1v 2's etc.....ideally you want team defense rather than one on ones IMO. Do we really want a player like Plowman left alone on those difficult matchup players.
Jones and Weitering are wallpapering plenty of cracks but those figures of how we play etc dont reflect well on Teague's tactics and Cripps cant be asking for big bucks based on some of those stats.

Assuming that article has it right, the problem lies somewhere on the line connecting coaching instructions / structures and players adjusting / playing to those instructions. 

If you look at the first graph, Teague has made adjustments from 2020 to 2021, as the number of 1v1's has come down, but only barely. That slight reduction doesn't seem to make any real difference if you compare W/L, percentage etc., so it's either a token measure that doesn't go far enough, or else there are real personnel / structural issues that require a genuine overhaul of our entire defensive system and mindset.

I think it's the latter Paul.

Every time I watch our games on TV, the expert comments blokes have a picnic on our poor defensive set ups, players ball-watching, poor positioning (or players badly out of position), not recognising opposition players' strengths (ie allowing left footers to get on their left), ad nauseum.  Bolts had a more defensive gameplan but those same problems were still evident.

It's my belief that our players have never learned how to play AFL team defence and, consequently, we rely on individual efforts and winning one on one contests.  Imagine how good Weiters would be if he was in Richmond's backline with five blokes who know how to play team defence.

I'm not sure that it's something that coaches can fix, although they should be able to address the basics.  I can't help but think that our defence would more effective if we had beaten Brisbane to Luke Hodge.  Daisy may have played a similar role, but not with the same impact and effectiveness.

Anyway, I hope Teague reads the article and takes some action to fix the problems.

Our defence in 2016 and 2017 was pretty reasonable. Once Teague came on board in 2018, the focus shifted and the coherence from those 2 years just evaporated. I'm not sure what's up, and I have no interest in starting yet another slanging match, but his coaching history with us clearly shows a struggle / lack of interest in modern, sophisticated defensive setups. We are lucky that neither Weitering nor Jones have been out long term, because we would be stuffed. Teague's reliance on these two is excessive IMO.

Agree and Ill just add that for what ever reason, our defence looked (to me least) more solid last year. Dont know if the stats say that or not, its my recollection of the games I watched.

Our defence in 2016 and 2017 was pretty reasonable. Once Teague came on board in 2018, the focus shifted and the coherence from those 2 years just evaporated. I'm not sure what's up, and I have no interest in starting yet another slanging match, but his coaching history with us clearly shows a struggle / lack of interest in modern, sophisticated defensive setups. We are lucky that neither Weitering nor Jones have been out long term, because we would be stuffed. Teague's reliance on these two is excessive IMO.

Strange media conference from The TT today. Seemed very stilted with scripted responses. Really talked up how many things we're doing right!!! Dangerous to draw conclusions from this -- jumping at shadows -- but it really did seem to be a senior coach seriously under the pump (understandable).

Our defence in 2016 and 2017 was pretty reasonable. Once Teague came on board in 2018, the focus shifted and the coherence from those 2 years just evaporated. I'm not sure what's up, and I have no interest in starting yet another slanging match, but his coaching history with us clearly shows a struggle / lack of interest in modern, sophisticated defensive setups. We are lucky that neither Weitering nor Jones have been out long term, because we would be stuffed. Teague's reliance on these two is excessive IMO.

Causation or correlation.

Think you'll find the 6-6-6 rule came into being about the same time.

Our defence was better because we were playing 8 blokes in it. Not allowed to do that anymore.
Our defenders are better than they were a few years ago, they are just no longer getting the extra help they were getting previously.