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Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 06, 2013, 10:07:05 am

Quote from: Shakin77 on August 06, 2013, 09:58:06 am

Chris Yarran is epidemic of what's is wrong at Carlton Football Club across the board.  

So if he is part of a widespread epidemic, why is he being treated differently to the rest of the offenders? That's my point, if MM is going to challenge players publicly, how about not picking and choosing, how about throwing a blanket over the lot and telling them all to pull their socks up. The way he's playing it is way wrong AFAIC. And if he's for real Yarran will be dropped this week, if he isn't it's a sure fire sign that even Malthouse knows he erred earlier in the year.

How is he being treated differently?

How many other players have been named the sub?  19.   How many have sooked it up?  One.   If Lucas sooked it up then he gets the same treatment.   But he hasn't.

Murphy copped it Saturday night.   Betts also.    What has Yarran had to deal with that has made it so hard for him?

Got to stop blaming the coach.  In Malthouse's short time at the club he wouldn't have had that much of an impact to stop Yarran having an influence on game day.   If Yarran had of stepped up and shown a little bit of character we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I said when Ratten was sacked that after pathetic performances against Port Adelaide and Gold Coast the players had the coaches blood on their hands.   

I hate calling footballers "soft", as they play an incredible tough game, but our boys are mentally weak and every time they get labelled as soft I think "here we go!" I can't wait for the response.... waiting....   waiting.... little bit of push and shove against St.Kilda.... still waiting.  Nothing. 

Here is the scenario with Yarran.

I don't work hard enough.
I am not fit enough.
I don't chase hard enough.
I don't commit myself to the contest.
I put my interest before the team.
I don't respond to a challenge.

It's your fault.

Chris Yarran is epidemic of what's is wrong at Carlton Football Club across the board.  

Easier to point the finger at someone else rather than stepping up yourself.

Malthouse has moved players on in the past.   Mal Michael, Tarrant, Nick Davis (gee there is a good comparison).

Tarrant did grow up late in his career, but if it's was a little bit too hard and you couldn't follow the team principles then it's see you later.

Quote from: Shakin77 on August 06, 2013, 09:58:06 am

Got to stop blaming the coach.  In Malthouse's short time at the club he wouldn't have had that much of an impact to stop Yarran having an influence on game day.   If Yarran had of stepped up and shown a little bit of character we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I said when Ratten was sacked that after pathetic performances against Port Adelaide and Gold Coast the players had the coaches blood on their hands.   

I hate calling footballers "soft", as they play an incredible tough game, but our boys are mentally weak and every time they get labelled as soft I think "here we go!" I can't wait for the response.... waiting....   waiting.... little bit of push and shove against St.Kilda.... still waiting.  Nothing. 

Here is the scenario with Yarran.

I don't work hard enough.
I am not fit enough.
I don't chase hard enough.
I don't commit myself to the contest.
I put my interest before the team.
I don't respond to a challenge.

It's your fault.

Chris Yarran is epidemic of what's is wrong at Carlton Football Club across the board.  

Easier to point the finger at someone else rather than stepping up yourself.

Malthouse is the "turn around" coach, "able to get the best out of players" "if he can't get the best out of under performing player no one can"  all statements I've heard from commentators and fans.  

You say Yarran is all those things above, hope you're not expecting anything but a 3rd round pick at best, because if Mick is so good at getting the best out players what hope does any other have    And if there is one then why didn't we chase him?

Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, even Jamo and Special K are what is wrong with Carlton - all 100 game + now ...... they are the guys who should be leading from the front, standing up when the game gets tight.......

3 number 1 draft picks.

You could throw 1AW in there too...... and McLean.

In general, ALL OF THEM fail to do that way when needed too often.

Are they being used incorrectly, are they just not hungry enough (or what)?

If those guys lead by example, younger guys like Yarran will most likely follow suit.

Yarran is an easy target.

The problem is much bigger than him.

ps Shakin, you would have no idea how fit Yarran is, he looks a heck of a lot fitter/agile/quicker than Gibbs or Murphy right now?

Quote from: Goat on August 06, 2013, 10:39:17 am

Quote from: Shakin77 on August 06, 2013, 09:58:06 am

Got to stop blaming the coach.  In Malthouse's short time at the club he wouldn't have had that much of an impact to stop Yarran having an influence on game day.   If Yarran had of stepped up and shown a little bit of character we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I said when Ratten was sacked that after pathetic performances against Port Adelaide and Gold Coast the players had the coaches blood on their hands.   

I hate calling footballers "soft", as they play an incredible tough game, but our boys are mentally weak and every time they get labelled as soft I think "here we go!" I can't wait for the response.... waiting....   waiting.... little bit of push and shove against St.Kilda.... still waiting.  Nothing. 

Here is the scenario with Yarran.

I don't work hard enough.
I am not fit enough.
I don't chase hard enough.
I don't commit myself to the contest.
I put my interest before the team.
I don't respond to a challenge.

It's your fault.

Chris Yarran is epidemic of what's is wrong at Carlton Football Club across the board.  

Easier to point the finger at someone else rather than stepping up yourself.

Malthouse is the "turn around" coach, "able to get the best out of players" "if he can't get the best out of under performing player no one can"  all statements I've heard from commentators and fans.  

You say Yarran is all those things above, hope you're not expecting anything but a 3rd round pick at best, because if Mick is so good at getting the best out players what hope does any other have    And if there is one then why didn't we chase him?

Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, even Jamo and Special K are what is wrong with Carlton - all 100 game + now ...... they are the guys who should be leading from the front, standing up when the game gets tight.......

3 number 1 draft picks.

You could throw 1AW in there too...... and McLean.

In general, ALL OF THEM fail to do that way when needed too often.

Are they being used incorrectly, are they just not hungry enough (or what)?

If those guys lead by example, younger guys like Yarran will most likely follow suit.

Yarran is an easy target.

The problem is much bigger than him.

ps Shakin, you would have no idea how fit Yarran is, he looks a heck of a lot fitter/agile/quicker than Gibbs or Murphy right now?

Quote from: Goat on August 06, 2013, 10:39:17 am

Quote from: Shakin77 on August 06, 2013, 09:58:06 am

Got to stop blaming the coach.  In Malthouse's short time at the club he wouldn't have had that much of an impact to stop Yarran having an influence on game day.   If Yarran had of stepped up and shown a little bit of character we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I said when Ratten was sacked that after pathetic performances against Port Adelaide and Gold Coast the players had the coaches blood on their hands.   

I hate calling footballers "soft", as they play an incredible tough game, but our boys are mentally weak and every time they get labelled as soft I think "here we go!" I can't wait for the response.... waiting....   waiting.... little bit of push and shove against St.Kilda.... still waiting.  Nothing. 

Here is the scenario with Yarran.

I don't work hard enough.
I am not fit enough.
I don't chase hard enough.
I don't commit myself to the contest.
I put my interest before the team.
I don't respond to a challenge.

It's your fault.

Chris Yarran is epidemic of what's is wrong at Carlton Football Club across the board.  

Easier to point the finger at someone else rather than stepping up yourself.

Malthouse is the "turn around" coach, "able to get the best out of players" "if he can't get the best out of under performing player no one can"  all statements I've heard from commentators and fans.  

You say Yarran is all those things above, hope you're not expecting anything but a 3rd round pick at best, because if Mick is so good at getting the best out players what hope does any other have    And if there is one then why didn't we chase him?

Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs, even Jamo and Special K are what is wrong with Carlton - all 100 game + now ...... they are the guys who should be leading from the front, standing up when the game gets tight.......

3 number 1 draft picks.

You could throw 1AW in there too...... and McLean.

In general, ALL OF THEM fail to do that way when needed too often.

Are they being used incorrectly, are they just not hungry enough (or what)?

If those guys lead by example, younger guys like Yarran will most likely follow suit.

Yarran is an easy target.

The problem is much bigger than him.

ps Shakin, you would have no idea how fit Yarran is, he looks a heck of a lot fitter/agile/quicker than Gibbs or Murphy right now?

I call Bullcrap.  Young players with talent and character don't need anyone to show them the way. 

It's Murphy's fault that Yarran can't chase. 

How has Malthouse treated Yarran differently from any other player?