Carlton Supporters Club

Quote from: Thryleon on August 06, 2013, 04:59:51 pm

I have heard whispers from people who know family of Murph.  All is not right down at Carlton.  Thing is, the playing group is turning on itself because they are behaving as they always behave.  Misbehave and sack the coach.  The unfortunate thing they dont know?  Mick is there, and he is there to stay.  You dont walk the line, you can walk out the door.  Starting with the most talented one of all.

Murphy? Absolutely zero chance he is going anywhere.

Quote from: ItsOurTime on August 07, 2013, 12:08:24 am

Quote from: Thryleon on August 06, 2013, 04:59:51 pm

I have heard whispers from people who know family of Murph.  All is not right down at Carlton.  Thing is, the playing group is turning on itself because they are behaving as they always behave.  Misbehave and sack the coach.  The unfortunate thing they dont know?  Mick is there, and he is there to stay.  You dont walk the line, you can walk out the door.  Starting with the most talented one of all.

Murphy? Absolutely zero chance he is going anywhere.

No I dont believe he is going anywhere.

I have heard whispers from people who know his family.  About the playing group.  The starting with the most talented one of all, is me being a little bit facetious regarding people labelling Chris Yarran the most talented.

Mate if he ends up at the scum playing great football I've had enough, the club can go fork themselves. I'll always have a soft spot but as for my life revolving around us no way no more. There's only so much mismanagement you can take. No doubt Hird and bummer will have him playing A-grade football straight away.

Quote from: Thryleon on August 07, 2013, 10:33:11 am

Quote from: ItsOurTime on August 07, 2013, 12:08:24 am

Quote from: Thryleon on August 06, 2013, 04:59:51 pm

I have heard whispers from people who know family of Murph.  All is not right down at Carlton.  Thing is, the playing group is turning on itself because they are behaving as they always behave.  Misbehave and sack the coach.  The unfortunate thing they dont know?  Mick is there, and he is there to stay.  You dont walk the line, you can walk out the door.  Starting with the most talented one of all.

Murphy? Absolutely zero chance he is going anywhere.

No I dont believe he is going anywhere.

I have heard whispers from people who know his family.  About the playing group.  The starting with the most talented one of all, is me being a little bit facetious regarding people labelling Chris Yarran the most talented.

Interesting times for Yarran, could be dropped this week and if he doesn't find himself back in the seniors very quickly, then I expect we may not see him in blue again and I reckon Essendon will be all over him.

@EB1
Elwood I reckon Yarran's own best option would be if he went would be the Swans. They would lick him into shape and if they couldn't nobody could.

I'm sure we could put together a deal with them maybe involving Jesse White?

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 06, 2013, 08:08:13 pm

Quote from: kruddler on August 06, 2013, 07:51:04 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 06, 2013, 07:26:08 pm

Nah it's different rules for different players, that's what's so annoying but nobody gets it. You can only say it so many times.

You are starting to sound like Jimbo.

You can say it repeatedly, how about backing it up with some facts.

What i am hearing from you is that Yarran has been ruined by Mick Malthouse and that he was an out and and star under Ratten. Your opinion, and so be it.

No, what I'm saying is he was developing nicely under Ratts but has gone backwards under Malthouse. I think he's lost all passion, and more importantly all confidence. It took Ratts a good few years to build up Yazz's confidence and it seems Mick's undone it all in a few months. IMO.

What's wrong with Jimbo anyway?

I recall quite clearly Yazz playing for the NBs last year and he was pathetic. His attitude (and this is under Ratts, to respond to what you write above) stunk. He was blasted by team mates and was the very personification of petulance. He was booed by our supporters from the ground... then was rewarded with senior selection the following week! FMD! However, this year when he spent time in the twos, he actually tried hard and got dirty. He is better under MM, but clearly has some attitude problems. Maybe he can only be a one way, prima donna

I agree that Yarran does not appear to be mentally hard enough, or show 100% effort.

But I also agree that Murph is also not mentally hard enough, and can go missing too easily.

Personally, my biggest gripe is with Judd, as good as he is around stoppages, the number of times I see him in no mans land when we are trying to set up a zone, or doesn't man up quickly enough or closely enough in general play or when the opposition come out of defense. IMO Judd's defensive game is atrocious. IMO Judd allows his opponents too many uncontested posessions, they get away from him away from the stoppages.

Now what I don't know is if MM is as harsh on Judd and Murph as he is with Yaran, but IMO they all need to lift their game, and I can't remember who said it, but it should start at the top with the captain, then the leadership group, senior players and so on.

Quote from: Baggers2013 on August 06, 2013, 08:34:27 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 06, 2013, 08:08:13 pm

Quote from: kruddler on August 06, 2013, 07:51:04 pm

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on August 06, 2013, 07:26:08 pm

Nah it's different rules for different players, that's what's so annoying but nobody gets it. You can only say it so many times.

You are starting to sound like Jimbo.

You can say it repeatedly, how about backing it up with some facts.

What i am hearing from you is that Yarran has been ruined by Mick Malthouse and that he was an out and and star under Ratten. Your opinion, and so be it.

No, what I'm saying is he was developing nicely under Ratts but has gone backwards under Malthouse. I think he's lost all passion, and more importantly all confidence. It took Ratts a good few years to build up Yazz's confidence and it seems Mick's undone it all in a few months. IMO.

What's wrong with Jimbo anyway?

I recall quite clearly Yazz playing for the NBs last year and he was pathetic. His attitude (and this is under Ratts, to respond to what you write above) stunk. He was blasted by team mates and was the very personification of petulance. He was booed by our supporters from the ground... then was rewarded with senior selection the following week! FMD! However, this year when he spent time in the twos, he actually tried hard and got dirty. He is better under MM, but clearly has some attitude problems. Maybe he can only be a one way, prima donna

This is what i was suggesting earlier. Carrots is looking at what he sees as the outcome (Yarran has gone backwards under Mick) and bringing up things that back that up, and ignoring (or forgetting) that the same things occured previously.

I am a huge fan of Yazza and i think he has been pretty much consistently inconsistent year to year.