2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

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Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #15 – May 22, 2017, 04:30:53 pm

Quote from: shawny on May 22, 2017, 09:06:27 am

Excuse my ignorance but isn't that an ACL?

How's that a 4-10 week injury?

Confirmed Season Over for Rowey.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #16 – May 22, 2017, 05:13:26 pm

Quote from: laj on May 22, 2017, 04:12:56 pm

With Rowe out probably for the year we could use Jones in two ways. One as a back up ruckman, and move Weitering back, or as a key defender. Both roles he's been outstanding in in the VFL. Wouldn't mind Jaskch or McKay in as well to go forward with Casboult. That will give us better competition in the air. Phillips doesn't give us anything other win a few taps and take Kreuzer, who's having a ripping year, unnecessaril off the ball for much longer periods.

Jaksch, Harry or Jones it doesnt matter, they just have to stop Tarrant , Thompson and the like taking easy uncontested marks especially when we blindly bomb the footy and Casboult is out of the contest...

re: Jones, dont want to see him on the last line of defence, prefer him at CHB where if he does something silly it wont cost as much....I know he has been in good form but senior AFL footy is different and you get less time to think....thinking being Jones major problem...
A. Silvagni and Plowman are more your last line defenders IMO...

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #17 – May 22, 2017, 07:08:06 pm

Fingers crossed that whatever leg injury Jones left the field with late on Sunday wasn't too bad as he's a monty to replace Rowe.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #18 – May 23, 2017, 01:31:06 am

I'm heading down for this game, I'm really hoping there won't be a repeat of last years thrashing. A win would be a pleasant surprise !!

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #19 – May 23, 2017, 01:20:05 pm

We will miss Rowe. He has been very solid in the last 2 seasons.
However, his injury does give us the opportunity to try a few things:
[1] Weitering back into defence and another of our talls to go forward.
[2] Liam Jones to go back into defence.
[3] Kristian Jaksch to come in, where he can go forward or back.
[4] Harry Macreadie to come in and take a role in defence.
[5] Simon White to return.
[6] We could bring in a smaller defender, like Sheahan or Buckley, where the opposition does not have many taller forwards. For that matter, Ciaran Byrne will be back soon and won't take all of the 2nd half of the season to reclaim a spot.

We haven't had options like these for a long time, and although we are still taking baby steps, the mere fact that don't have an unfillable hole in our defence is great news.

North will probably take us on physically: they have done that the last few weeks and have yet to be seriously penalized by the tribunal.
But the things that I want to be able to do is to smother their ruckman: I rate Goldstein. Beat him and North are in trouble.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #20 – May 23, 2017, 08:19:16 pm

So let me start by saying I cant stand Terry Wallet. I was listening to SEN tonight and he does a segment where by he goes into a club and sits on match committee meetings. When it came to Carlton, he talked about Rowe going down. He suggested to try something left field by putting Weitering on a wing and Jones down back. His theory is that:
- JW is a great reader of the play
- JW is a big body and is fairly athletic
- JW intercepts the footy extremely well
Wallet reckons he would become an asset btw HB and HF along the wings and would compliment our other big bodies in Cripps, Curnow etc.
I dont know if this is crazy or genius, its certainly left field alright and it may just make things very intersting. Thoughts?

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #21 – May 23, 2017, 08:24:55 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 23, 2017, 08:19:16 pm

So let me start by saying I cant stand Terry Wallet. I was listening to SEN tonight and he does a segment where by he goes into a club and sits on match committee meetings. When it came to Carlton, he talked about Rowe going down. He suggested to try something left field by putting Weitering on a wing and Jones down back. His theory is that:
- JW is a great reader of the play
- JW is a big body and is fairly athletic
- JW intercepts the footy extremely well
Wallet reckons he would become an asset btw HB and HF along the wings and would compliment our other big bodies in Cripps, Curnow etc.
I dont know if this is crazy or genius, its certainly left field alright and it may just make things very intersting. Thoughts?

Perhaps I shouldn't admit this but I actually find myself very interested in TWs insights. He was one of the few commentators last year after we'd won four on the trot to predict that the Aints would take us apart. And the reasons he gave were spot on.

Weits to a wing? My only knock on that would be that he aint the fastest bloke over the grass... however, I wonder if TW was isolating the fact that we have very poor penetration and delivery into our F50 and Weits might be an excellent link to setting up and delivering meaningful forward thrusts, and would be difficult to stop.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #22 – May 23, 2017, 08:27:23 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 23, 2017, 08:19:16 pm

So let me start by saying I cant stand Terry Wallet. I was listening to SEN tonight and he does a segment where by he goes into a club and sits on match committee meetings. When it came to Carlton, he talked about Rowe going down. He suggested to try something left field by putting Weitering on a wing and Jones down back. His theory is that:
- JW is a great reader of the play
- JW is a big body and is fairly athletic
- JW intercepts the footy extremely well
Wallet reckons he would become an asset btw HB and HF along the wings and would compliment our other big bodies in Cripps, Curnow etc.
I dont know if this is crazy or genius, its certainly left field alright and it may just make things very intersting. Thoughts?

How is that any different to Kreuzer on a wing, which we tried a couple of times last week. It backfired on us at center bounces as his opponent basically ran off him and got an I50. In terms of pros/cons, too many cons.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #23 – May 23, 2017, 08:34:55 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 23, 2017, 08:19:16 pm

So let me start by saying I cant stand Terry Wallet. I was listening to SEN tonight and he does a segment where by he goes into a club and sits on match committee meetings. When it came to Carlton, he talked about Rowe going down. He suggested to try something left field by putting Weitering on a wing and Jones down back. His theory is that:
- JW is a great reader of the play
- JW is a big body and is fairly athletic
- JW intercepts the footy extremely well
Wallet reckons he would become an asset btw HB and HF along the wings and would compliment our other big bodies in Cripps, Curnow etc.
I dont know if this is crazy or genius, its certainly left field alright and it may just make things very intersting. Thoughts?

Isn't that mainly where Nick Riewoldt plays these days?

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #24 – May 23, 2017, 08:48:58 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on May 23, 2017, 08:34:55 pm

Isn't that mainly where Nick Riewoldt plays these days?

Yup, and he provides one really good avenue into f50.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #25 – May 23, 2017, 09:21:49 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on May 23, 2017, 08:19:16 pm

So let me start by saying I cant stand Terry Wallet. I was listening to SEN tonight and he does a segment where by he goes into a club and sits on match committee meetings. When it came to Carlton, he talked about Rowe going down. He suggested to try something left field by putting Weitering on a wing and Jones down back. His theory is that:
- JW is a great reader of the play
- JW is a big body and is fairly athletic
- JW intercepts the footy extremely well
Wallet reckons he would become an asset btw HB and HF along the wings and would compliment our other big bodies in Cripps, Curnow etc.
I dont know if this is crazy or genius, its certainly left field alright and it may just make things very intersting. Thoughts?

Might work depending on opponents, I wouldnt want Brad Hill for example playing on JW and running off him..our man is athletic for a tall but he wont be winning any foot races vs genuine wingman.
IMO Weitering is a CHB and its time we played him there. Cant wait for Mckay and Kerr to be introduced so we can setup the spine properly and have a decent structure to build around instead of trying to cheat with players in their non specialist positions....I know JW played games forward in his youth but he looks a CHB to me and not a CHF.
Weitering and Marchbank down back will give you the best intercept marking duo in the comp..

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #26 – May 23, 2017, 09:25:30 pm

Yep, the Weitering forward experiment needs to be put back on the shelf once and for all IMO.

Time for a different option at CHF... Jones, Jaksch, Kerr, JGM, McKay, I don't care who, just give the side some bloody structure that gives us some hope.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #27 – May 23, 2017, 10:01:40 pm

McKay not really putting it together and if form dictates who plays then Jones and Jaksch need the run. Not sure what will be done with White as he deserves to come in too. Jaksch at 22 is younger though and Jones at 26 is hitting his peak.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #28 – May 23, 2017, 10:13:09 pm

Jones will surely play this week? If he doesn't then what future can he have with us? Personally I think he and Weitering will share rotations fwd and back. Looking forward to seeing them.

Re: 2017 Rd 10: Pre Game Palaver: Carlton vs North Melbourne

Reply #29 – May 23, 2017, 10:37:20 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on May 23, 2017, 10:13:09 pm

Jones will surely play this week? If he doesn't then what future can he have with us? Personally I think he and Weitering will share rotations fwd and back. Looking forward to seeing them.

Could make for a puzzling match up...
By all accounts Jones has successfully implemented coaching instruction. At least in the 2's. Perhaps some of his current success also relates to maturity.

How fantastic would it be if he jumps up a level or two this year. For years we've heard about his 'potential'. How he 'trains the house down'. Heck he could be the slow burn recruit of the year. All the best to him if he gets a gig.