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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Club & Coach Ratings
Sorry, if the club is influenced by Kermit the Frog and Fozzie Bear, then we really do have the wrong people in charge.
“Good leaders make decisions quickly and change them slowly”

When you’re playing Daisy, Lamb and Murphy off Hb, with kpd missing through form and injury and you wonder why the team got smashed each week...?
From 1/2 time game 1 the team was under seige and played accordingly for the year.

#holepluggerswereus
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Ladies Lounge / Re: Hannah Mouncey
Maybe. I guess the point I was trying to make is that you can't object to her because she's too big. I would assume that her unfair advantage arises from some remnant, leftover vestiges of masculinity, e.g muscle mass, size etc., that hormone therapy, gender reassignment etc. can't completely remove, and this is the real issue.

What about 2 females, one a bodybuilder, the other a basket baller - both born female, one significantly taller, the other significantly stronger than most female players - should they be refused permission to play AFL/VFLW ?

I think the resident homophobes will say yes PaulP, because that’s really their issue, the rest is window dressing.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide
Melbourne win 10 games in Roos 3rd year of his rebuild. After last year that's where I thought we would be at given that while we won 6 games we led 7 times in last qtrs and lost. I'd been happy with 6 given our injuries but more importantly, see things like a better structure and game plan. Like to have seen much quicker and better movement of the ball to set up our two very good young key forwards. If I saw that then I believe we were on the right path. Saw something that wasn't even close, outside of round 1, which was exciting.

In 1903 Melbourne won the first 3 games of the year, then lost two before winning 9 of their last 13 on their way to winning the 1956 premiership, so that’s how we SHOULD be progressing too !
I don’t care how many injuries we have, I WANT TO WIN/LOSS OF 50.7%  MINIMUM !!!
Anything else is unacceptable !!!

Jim, where you or I “thought” we’d be or how many W/L we’d have is irrelevant, sadly.


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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide
 

Excuses! Not interested in last year.

2 wins, no structure, poorly drilled, poor game plan. That's not injuries. That side we had playing on the weekend alone is alot better than 2 wins, 3 x 100pt defeats, including by a side with 16 men. We are so poorly drilled we couldn't handle and were outnumbered by a side with 16 thstbfound so much space and kicked goals at will. We were smashed by apoor sides by 10 goals. That's coaching! Then there's the lack of effort so often, meaning a lack of respect for the coach. None of the above is injury related. No amount of spin will change that.

It’s not excuses, it’s observation.
Sometimes you just have to suck it up no matter how bad it tastes.
Sack the coach now and you’ll be torching 1/2 the list and starting again... how long do you want the pain to go on for ?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide
After 3 years we can see the 2 wins. I exoected something alot better than that. You have a poor coach and you're going nowhere. We're just a total rabble, like back in the Pagan days. We saw how that changed when he left.

Jim, you were one of us who was reasonably satisfied with the first two seasons, then we lost Doc and Gibbs.
In spite of that we were competitive in large parts and exciting in our season start before injuries destroyed our structure.
We all wanted more wins, but sometimes it just doesn’t happen and frankly I’m disappointed that someone with possibly more coaching credentials than anyone here is so quick to want to send the coach off to the guillotine.
He may need more help, if so let’s get it, but let’s learn from the Ratten days.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide
We are not an AFL freak show, or an AFL outlier. Every single AFL team plays a zone, cluster, web, whatever you want to call it. Conceptually they make sense. These structures can be implemented to varying degrees, different parts of the ground etc. They are all starting positions only. The game has a dynamic component, and players continuously change from one mode to another. Maybe there needs to be an adjustment to the way we implement our zone, but I think by far the biggest problem is that we turn the ball over so often, the players simply can't settle, and have to adjust and readjust far too often, and are therefore out of position too often. That coupled with inexperience, injury etc., is a recipe for disaster and as far as fans are concerned, a recipe for class unrest.

No man, it’s just the coach... ????
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 Rd 23: Post Game Passion: Carlton vs Adelaide
I'm happy with the zone style because the coach is expecting them to learn how to play in a way that will win. One on one is for wet days and the bottom leagues. Watch a division one game in local leagues; they play zone.

Its the turnovers that are killing us. We won the inside 50s, which shows we are winning the ball and getting it forward. We then break down and it comes back and we are struggling to get back to position. Playing one one one is not going to improve us much.

One a few occasions this year our approach has worked and we score. Fast ball movement via accurate kicking is very hard to defend. But it requires great skills and being organised and we are struggling to meet these levels.

The coach has high expectations. Good.

Glad someone else can see it and said it well.
If we need a matchday coach let’s get one, but I’m not totally convinced that it’s a game day coaching issue.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2018 VFL Rd 20: Northern Blues vs Sandringham
Yep.

Meanwhile he was up and about until he did his shoulder in jlt.

He's talented but his body has let him down this year IMHO.

Reckon he'll be better next season.

He’ll need to be...
My dad used to say that you need the guys who are lucky with injuries... for every 1 Shane Watson (cricketer) who eventually overcame his early injuries and forged a respectable career, there’s 2 dozen who don’t.