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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
How is he scarier than the other republican candidates?
You only need to listen to his proclamations to realise he is a narcissistic liar who believes he is above all accountability.  If he is in the Oval Office again, he will make sure that things are done his way this time, and any political/business/legal opponents will find their proverbial heads on stakes and on display in Times Square.

Sadly, no-one in the GOP will have the guts to stop him.  His team will be a bunch of subservient sycophants who will be more than happy to compromise their ideals to stay in Donald's good books.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
We can laugh at it, but the following is an example of how dangerous politics can be once the public is incited.

Apparently in the recent Iowa nominations Trump lost in one region and he's taken offence at it with quiet rumours of retribution to the voters of that region, and in the interim Trump's supporters are already claiming the result against him in that region was due to election tampering.

So if that's how they behave in a trivial pre-selection, bullying voters, what's going to happen in the real deal?

I've personally very little interest in either Democrat or Republican, but I've just watched a great series on the World War II from the Frontlines and the types of fanaticism back then draw an uncomfortable parallel to the current global political climate abroad and at home.
Donald is getting scarier with each 'victory' - I reckon they need to make sure he gets an orange jumpsuit to match his complexion.......
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Trumpled (Alternative Leading)
Don't mention the war(assassination).

Today, if you ever needed to know why the Orang and his team are dangerous, it should now be beyond doubt, this is basically the same style of vitriol that lead to the capitol riots in the first place.

In my opinion it's unequivocal proof this guy is prepared to burn down the house to get his way, they should rename him Nero!

Why the feck would anyone want to go into politics with this bloke stoking the fires, the extreme left and extreme right will meet in the chaotic middle and nobody will be safe!
Agree completely - the GOP have a lot to answer for, standing idly by while this guy trashes democracy.   And if he does win, heaven help those on the other side of the fence......
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton 2024 Predictions / Expectations
One thing for sure, this team can enter the 2024 season KNOWING that they are good enough.  Prior to this, the hype at the start of every year was more about hope than belief.

Confidence and belief is what takes a talented team from middle-of-the-pack to top-of-the-tree.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Where are our goals going to come from?
I think the main reason we don't get enough goals from our midfield is that they have to play higher up the ground than most of the other top teams - and the reason for this is we don't have enough run out of the backline.

We just don't have the run and carry to make springboard attacks from the back half, so almost all of our scoring comes from midfielders delivering to forwards.

If we can get Boyd, WIlliams, Saad, Cincotta to set up plays from defensive 50 with run and bounce, the ball may well end up in the hands of Walsh/Cripps/Kennedy etc on the run from 40-50 metres out, instead of them kicking it from 70 metres out to contested situations.

The other top sides do this so well (think of Crisp/Quaynor/Coleman/Whitfield etc), and it's part of our game that I think we need to add.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
I'm more familiar with the NSW system but with State run schools it would have little to do with being tied to funding levels and more to do with curriculum requirements.
Indigenous perspectives would carry across all areas of the school curriculum.

The extent to which a school is 'decorated', the involvement of outside speakers, performers, elder speakers and additional indigenous teacher's aides would be determined by the Principal, teachers and school community.
They would certainly need to demonstrate that these areas are being covered, but it wouldn't affect their funding.

In my time, schools were given a set budget, but there was also extra money assigned that was to be used on designated targeted areas. Aboriginal education was one such area, but how we used that money was pretty much up to us....artists, performers, speakers etc. If we needed a bit of extra cash for things like NAIDOC week we could use some of the global budget.

Next time you're around a kid's or grandkid's schools have a look The cultural influences are genuine and part of the educational process for indigenous and non-indigenous students as well.
I work in Healthcare, and the cultural connection is everywhere.  And without trying to sound sanctimonious, it has given me a very different and positive appreciation of indigenous culture.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
Do we not celebrate indigenous culture though?

I walk through the gate of my grandson's school here in 'redneck' Queensland and the indigenous symbolism is prominent from the entrance all the way down to the classrooms. Posters, playground art, even some of the designs on classrooms. Enter the rooms and you don't have to look far to see more examples. Throughout the year there have been a couple of cultural performances.
Maybe it's a generational thing from this point.
Maybe it's these kids who will live in a country where race isn't a point of difference in terms of opportunity and living standards , but where they can still appreciate the culture of first Australians.
They're not mutually exclusive
Do we not celebrate indigenous culture though?

I walk through the gate of my grandson's school here in 'redneck' Queensland and the indigenous symbolism is prominent from the entrance all the way down to the classrooms. Posters, playground art, even some of the designs on classrooms. Enter the rooms and you don't have to look far to see more examples. Throughout the year there have been a couple of cultural performances.

Maybe it's what the school is expected to do in order to retain their funding levels.....
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
I found the whole "silence for a week thing" extremely childish given how much work there is to do, poor leadership IMO. Imagine

I get it. They have put in years of hard work of trying to get a solution, one presents and it is not accepted by the public.  This is a big knock back for them.  They need some time to digest, process and think about 'what next'.



Certainly hasn't stopped Peter Dutton getting straight onto the front foot and whacking it back over the sightscreen. 

His true colours are back on show for all to see.  No new referendum , no treaty, give 'em nothing!
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
Sprung!  :-[
Yes, we Statists are known to meet monthly, deep in darkly treed forests, wearing our white dust coats emblazoned with numbers praying to the gods, Divisionist, Plus, Multiply and Minus. The great god's name, Graph, is only whispered, with bowed heads.
Graph is but one of the minor supreme beings.  The true messiah is Correlation.......
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
Fair dinkum...there is some absolutely absurd judgements being made.

The reasons for voting 'No' were widespread and diverse.
There is no intellectual superiority in the 'Yes' case.
That's purely a personal opinion, and perhaps that arrogance is arguably one of the reasons the case was lost.

If the question had been...."Do you think first nations people should be recognised in the constitution?... it would have romped in".

The fact is that indigenous folks have a Voice.
It's a strong voice.
It's heard often.
You only have to look at indigenous input on both sides of the debate.
It was impressive...yes, even Lydia Thorpe (who may be a bit out there, but who is a strong and commited advocate for her people)
But it is a diverse voice.

Many government departments at both a state and federal level have an indigenous input...its especially so in things like education and health
If you think governments aren't aware of the problems indigenous folk face you're mistaken.
They're well aware of issues and locations.

The Voice isn't the problem...it's the Ears.
The voice is loud and clear.
It needs to be listened to, and there need to be a willingness by governments to close that gap.
...and we've just wasted a heap of money that could have been better spent


No one is saying there is an intellectual superiority in voting yes - far from it, if people consider the facts and vote 'No', then that is democracy at work, and I have no doubt that many 'No' voters are in that category.

But if people voted 'no' simply because they didn't know what the issues were (or couldn't be bothered finding out), then that is ignorance at its best.  And the fact that the 'No' campaign legitimised the fact that remaining ignorant was acceptable, is, in my book, the biggest shame of this whole process.  

Einstein said the true definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.  So something has to change in the relationship between First Nations peoples and our elected leaders, or we will be talking about the same issues in 20 or 30 years' time.

As for needing 'Ears' - ears can listen, but it doesn't mean they understand.  It's the last bit we need to get a better handle on. 

 
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
Well they need to read the room then.
The room has just told them that when it comes to Indigenous affairs, much of the country is either against it or doesn't want to know.  All the more reason why the thought of a female indigenous leader in charge of the Liberal party would be electoral suicide.  
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The Voice
If there was a election tomorrow and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price was running for PM, I'd vote for her in a heat beat. I'd not  heard much about her prior to the Voice debate, what a breath of fresh air, the future of Australian politics I reckon. Thoughts?
Impressive though she has been, she has as much chance of being the leader of the Coalition as I have of lining up at full-forward in the first game next year.  She has served her purpose, and the Libs will ensure that normal service is resumed as soon as possible.