Like others, couldn't watch last night... knew what was going to happened but moreso, frustrated about coming on here and reading the same old crap about the same issues and the same old serial recidivists. Every week reads the same... eg Graham - who probably doesn't have it - made sub again - so we'll never know if he is up to it..... Warnock stinking it up.... Walker turning it over and making horrible decisions... Yarran hand braking it.... Touhy bereft of confidence..... Daisy doing SFA.... and so on and so and so on. What's that.... repeat for 17 rounds now?
If Bell fronted up fat after a finger injury he should be sacked.
Yes we have personnel and list issues but that doesn't excuse poor results.
Some basic standards need to be established - fitness, non negotiable effort and attack on the contest are the first three. I'm looking at you Buttifant for starters.... earn your money. As for Malthouse, it's 2014, start coaching like a professional manager of a $50 million business or screw OFF.
Seriously Mick, you took a middle of the road, but competitive team and made it uncompetitive.... FACT. What are you going to do about it supercoach?
As for the list, yes we have about 10-15 players that just aren't good enough. We have no depth... none. We know our recruiting sucked. So why do we continue to play these guys hoping they suddenly become world beaters , why not just cull them en masse and attempt to get somebody else in? Maybe playing some kids? If Malthouse hasn't made decisions regarding the future of blokes like Ellard et al. then that is simply mismanagement.
Gees our list is thin and shallow but crikey the bloke running the show doesn't seem to have much idea about turning the ship around.... who is navigating this voyage of the damned?
All I'm reading from here is the same crap regarding the same blokes
Ivan, I've been saying it for years... since the cap penalties we are the cleanest side I have ever seen... zero "gamesmanship", no fudging around the margins... and gees does it show against side like the swines, ducker chuckers and whorks...
I can see a rough comparison with Gibbs in style but Motley was potentially better as he was a 100% footballer with precise footballing skills and superb balance. Beautiful soft hands and knew where to be. Really strong in the core and trunk. Perfect footballer's build, deceptively quick and never fell over. I mean never. Was probably on track to be as good a mid sized player as we have seen, but only what 20 games or so makes assessment tough.
Today's equivalent is possibly one of the great Cat's Half backs like Bartels, but Mots was quicker and a better kick. In a lot of ways Hird (on field) reminded me of Motley... similar attributes IMO.
Reality was that he should have played 300 games (and they would have been elite too) but for a prick in a Porsche (Meldrum was hurt as well if I recall). They never got that individual.
I thought he was a bit loose in the 86 GF even though he was close to our best that day. Gees, we were poor in '86, it was kind of like the whole side was overawed by a very hard, professional Hawthorn. We had a whole generation of players that day playing in their first GF and it showed.
Flogged them in '87, gees they came out fired up and the Hawks never had a sniff. Justine running through Tucky is the thing I remember the most.... still can't believe it.... Harry running through an icon to the game?
Motley looked a gun but didn't get enough exposure at AFL leve lto afford comparisons... more a flanker than a running midfielder like Gibbs. Had bit of a patch where his undisputed talent was on display and some of his reserves displays were legendary. Was loose in the '86 GF and the Hawthorn flankers got away from him a bit.
Dominated across half forward as a teenager for SA vs Vic, but was being eased into it across half back at Carlton. Was a dead shot for goal, good hands and a good size (about 188-ish from memory). Read the play superbly.
McConville was an odd player with a cacky kicky style and from memory was a barrel-chested, very strong but not overly tall CHB who won a few games for us pinch-hitting at CHF. He was a very strong one grab mark and read the ball well in flight.
His body size and shape wouldn't make it today but in that era he was a very good player.
We went through bit of a dip between 1982 and 1986 before going on a serious recruiting splurge and we essentially rebuilt to challenge again in 1986 with a new generation after the success of 79-82.
During the early 80's flat spot we had another bloke who kicked a few for us.. was is Buckley (no relation to Jim)? We had some interesting players during that period, kind of like the other odd period 1988-1993. Anybody remember Simon Verbeek?
I almost drove off the road in disbelief when I heard Watson senior say on SEN that our draw was seemingly designed to pull the smallest possible crowd.... The worst scheduling possible.
Unless we start winning and pulling crowds expect an apalling draw and schedule in 2015.
I thought that Murphy tried his guts out and ran himself into the ground attempting to get us over the line. Missed a gettable goal (not the only offender there) but was held every time he went anywhere near the ball. Can't understand the grief he is copping ATM... has been a greatly improved and relatively consistent player c.f. the early part of the year.
The fact that he is the main target for tags says plenty IMO; the only player other sides rate.
