We won't be starting favourite. Very interesting to see who plays this week.
They're lower than us, but we aren't playing that well.
B: Akuei Young Silvagni
HB: Cowan Fisher Plowman
C: Binns Cunningham O'Brien
HF: Honey Fogarty Motlop
F: McMahon Crocker Lemmey
R: O'Keeffe Dow Kennedy
INT: Sinnott Ramshaw Ronke Parks Cahill
Emergencies: Gill Stevens Dozzi Prout Porter Mills Leiu Lewis
IN: Cahill Dow Fisher Kennedy Motlop O'Brien Silvagni Sinnott Young
Well, this is the list for the game in its present form:
Kennedy, Young and Motlop won't be there for starters: they are the interchange players for the seniors.
I think Dow will probably be the sub, so I doubt he'd be there either.
We usually leave out one guy as an emergency, in case of a late injury; so that means that one of Silvagni, Cowan and Fogarty won't be out there.
That makes the line-up looks a little different.
No Mirkov, which worries me. He isn't mentioned in the injury list, but this would be the second game he's missed. O'Keefe is a very raw and undeveloped ruckman, so we aren't going to get the superiority in clearances we require. Lemmey will probably be his backup. So most of the 'emergencies' will be playing.
Defensively s-house is the only way to describe us.
Never knew Fisher had a right foot. That right-footed delivery went 45m right to the spot. Looked very natural.
O'Keefe has done not too bad in the ruck I reckon.
Ramshaw should be on our list.
LOB punched the ball in bound to the top of our goal square. He just has a poor football IQ.
Plowman misses a target from the kick-in and the ball goes straight over his head for a goal.
Plowman misses a target from the kick-in and the ball goes straight over his head for a goal.
Safe to say he'll be delisted at seasons end. Not even VFLs std.
Apparently 5m kick are 15m these days.
As sure as night follows day Honey will miss
Plowman misses a target from the kick-in and the ball goes straight over his head for a goal.
Can always be trusted to do a plow special when the heat starts to turn up.
you can put him on the list of delistings
I'd say Dow is the sub tonight.
Must have a few JJ Liston Trophy votes this year.
Honey then Cahill miss sitters.
Plowman misses a target from the kick-in and the ball goes straight over his head for a goal.
As Bob Dylan wrote..Plowman dig my earth, there is too much confusion, I cant get no relief........
Can always be trusted to do a plow special when the heat starts to turn up.
There wasn't even any heat this time. He just missed the target kicking out.
Honey has a look about him that really looks like he doesn’t give a fark.
Never gut runs never puts a hard tackle on and whenever he misses had little to no emotion.
This Gill kid looks ok?
Fogarty and Cunningham looking good.
There wasn't even any heat this time. He just missed the target kicking out.
Last quarter in a tight game pressure is always a bit more. Plow melts under any pressure.
Gill has a nice pair of hands and is a good kick
Honey then Cahill miss sitters.
Good to they kick for goal like our seniors....lol.
Anyway, we kick one finally. Usually dominance gives us alot of points then the other side goes down and kicks one against the run of play. This time that didn't happen for a change and we got a goal.
Honey has a look about him that really looks like he doesn’t give a fark.
Never gut runs never puts a hard tackle on and whenever he misses had little to no emotion.
Had that look at U18 level...thats why he didnt get drafted, probably have the same look when he gets delisted although the way we manage our list he will probably get a 5 year deal...
Gill has a nice pair of hands and is a good kick
Just read his great grandfather played 200 games for us.
4 goals up.
Gill has a nice pair of hands and is a good kick
A couple of his handballs were fantastic
Gill also has more than one familial link in Navy Blue: his great grandfather, Frank Gill, is a Hall of Fame at Carlton with 205 games. His uncles Barry and John also played in arguably the Blues’ finest-ever triumph: the 1970 VFL Grand Final.
Just read his great grandfather played 200 games for us.
Was it his father too, Barry, who played in the 1970 GF? Thought I heard that on the commentary.
EDIT: Ahhh Uncles.
Gill also has more than one familial link in Navy Blue: his great grandfather, Frank Gill, is a Hall of Fame at Carlton with 205 games. His uncles Barry and John also played in arguably the Blues’ finest-ever triumph: the 1970 VFL Grand Final.
Sadly I am old enough to remember them well....lol
Pls take cunners off. I’m becoming nervous that something is about to break tear or pull.
Pls take cunners off. I’m becoming nervous that something is about to break tear or pull.
Yep. Has to play next week.
Really pulling away from them at the moment
Pls take cunners off. I’m becoming nervous that something is about to break tear or pull.
Yep, I've seen enough. Get the cotton wool out NOW
LOB punched the ball in bound to the top of our goal square. He just has a poor football IQ.
this is surely coachable?
I understand that we aren't all born geniuses but fork me dead if you can't teach a player how to play smart football then I don't know what coaches are for.
Won by 31pts.
Cuningham has been very classy but its the same deal as always, one bad knock and back to square one. Id play him next week vs GC while he is firing and fit.
Fogarty is a goer, lacks class but you get effort....
I like the new full forward from the mid season draft for Essendon in Jayden Hunter...kicks like an arrow, taken 9 marks and he will be playing senior footy sooner than later and I still reckon Nick Bryan is a ruckman who should be playing senior football every week and Id be interested in taking him off Essendon if TDK leaves.
Bryan is much too good for this level.
Good in the ruck and picks up lots of possessions around the ground.
Cuningham has been very classy but its the same deal as always, one bad knock and back to square one. Id play him next week vs GC while he is firing and fit.
Fogarty is a goer, lacks class but you get effort....
I like the new full forward from the mid season draft for Essendon in Jayden Hunter...kicks like an arrow, taken 9 marks and he will be playing senior footy sooner than later and I still reckon Nick Bryan is a ruckman who should be playing senior football every week and Id be interested in taking him off Essendon if TDK leaves.
Cunningham's class and speed is evident, if his body can hold up he should be in the 1s maybe after the bye. He possesses everything we lack, his problem (like Martin) is just being able to play 2 or 3 games in a row. He was saying in the post match interview he has missed 18mths with a calf.
Bryan is much too good for this level.
Good in the ruck and picks up lots of possessions around the ground.
Yep its his around the ground stuff especially his marking I like, has a bit of Tim English about how he plays.
this is surely coachable?
I understand that we aren't all born geniuses but fork me dead if you can't teach a player how to play smart football then I don't know what coaches are for.
The one in rd 22 last year against Melbourne that cost us the match was highlighted on all the shows and he hasn't learned from it.
Cunningham's class and speed is evident, if his body can hold up he should be in the 1s maybe after the bye. He possesses everything we lack, his problem (like Martin) is just being able to play 2 or 3 games in a row. He was saying in the post match interview he has missed 18mths with a calf.
Id be playing him next week while his body is travelling well.......GC dont play a heavy gamestyle and I think its now or never for him. Id have Fogarty in as well and if Cahill was a listed player Id be playing him too.
Funny, it's looking very possible a lot of Carlton players will be playing finals in their last games with the club. ;)
It's a bit of a shame some of the players developing very well in the VFL aren't our listed players.
There are quite a few who look likely.
I guess it's the expense of supporting that second (and third tier) comp that stops it from being a total club project as in the old days, where players could progress through the under19's to reserves to seniors.
Just read his great grandfather played 200 games for us.
And his Uncles Barry and John played in the 60s 70s
Do you remember those players Lods?
Do you remember those players Lods?
I only knew of Barry as he wore 21
John wore 12 Barry wore 21. John had hair, Barry didn't!!
Do you remember those players Lods?
Only Barry, John had already retired.
When I first started following Carlton our backline was
Ian Collins, Wes Lofts, Robbie Walls
Barry Gill, John Goold, Kevin Hall
Barry's standout feature was his receding hairline, but he was a very good and dependable half back/back pocket and dual premiership player in an outstanding backline.
Cuningham demonstrated why he could be an AFL player but 'one-paced' Dow probably won't.
Cunningham has burst and is able to create space and time for himself after winning the ball; he can even break a tackle or two.
Cowan had a decent game.
O'Keeffe looks to have more potential than Lemmey, who looks very stiff in his movements.
Akuei has athletic ability (plus the skinniest calves in the AFL) but doesn't seem to have much football nous.
Honey doesn't do enough and, if he can't kick goals, he doesn't even rate a game in the VFL.
Fogarty has his limitations (especially in the pace and acceleration department) but I think he has more to offer than Dow - especially in the way he uses the ball and fights for it.
I like Lemmey's kicking though which was elite at U18 level but seemingly being dragged down to Carlton level as the weeks go by. He shows a bit in the ruck to suggest he could develop into that KF/relief ruck we crave. Also showed ability to swing back at U18 level. All in all plenty to work with. O'Keeffe I am not sold on. Akuei great athlete, great tryer but zero footy nous. Honey just goes missing far too much even at this level. Fog as you say is limited but surely deserves a shot at the firsts for consistent performance at 2s level.
I like Lemmey's kicking though which was elite at U18 level but seemingly being dragged down to Carlton level as the weeks go by. He shows a bit in the ruck to suggest he could develop into that KF/relief ruck we crave. Also showed ability to swing back at U18 level. All in all plenty to work with. O'Keeffe I am not sold on. Akuei great athlete, great tryer but zero footy nous. Honey just goes missing far too much even at this level. Fog as you say is limited but surely deserves a shot at the firsts for consistent performance at 2s level.
H2 is 19, lets not forget that. He is beautiful kick of the footy and kicks it a long way. He and OKeefe are keepers for sure.
Surely Fog has to get a game next week, at least he tackles with intent.
Ed was picked to do a role, didn't even lay a tackle. Running around like a headless chook and endlessly fumbling is not AFL standard Epic fail in my book. That's the kind of rubbish effort that has left our club broken.
EB...Jaiden Hunter was drafted out of Perth FC over here. Been on the list but missed nearly two years of footy with injuries. Started this year and played 3 reserves games and then kicked multiple goals in 3 league games including 5 in the win over South Fremantle a couple of weeks ago....he was plucked by Essendon 5 days later. He's a really likely type and reckon he'll take over from Weideman in the Essendon AFL side before the year is out.
EB...Jaiden Hunter was drafted out of Perth FC over here. Been on the list but missed nearly two years of footy with injuries. Started this year and played 3 reserves games and then kicked multiple goals in 3 league games including 5 in the win over South Fremantle a couple of weeks ago....he was plucked by Essendon 5 days later. He's a really likely type and reckon he'll take over from Weideman in the Essendon AFL side before the year is out.
For sure Surfie, he is a good footballer in the making imo and will be playing senior football soon. Weideman is a spud and wont ever make it as a KP Forward. Id be trying him down back if I was Brad Scott and trying him as a CHB given the Dons have no real tall key defenders.
Am I to presume Binns was held out as an emergency for the one's? If so what are his chances of a debut next week?