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[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judd's future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

We remain steadfastly set down written in stone as the worst ball users by foot in the competition.

Opposition clubs know that with every forced kick Carlton are 50/50 or better chance of losing possession, while the benchmark clubs like the Dawks or Swans retain the ball and cut through opponents.

All the effort, exposure, endeavour, stepping up, efforts, and application won't help us unless we find some blokes who are smart ball users and can kick accurately.

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 23, 2015, 10:01:02 pm

[7]   Conclusion:
For all of the bad things, and there were many, we still lost by a relatively small margin. And, had we been able to kick straight, we could have done them in. It suggests that we are doing some things right. Judd, for example, was brilliant.

Thought Judd lowered his colours which doesnt happen often and Guthrie both held him and flogged us when he had the ball....Juddy didnt pick him up at any stage and allowed him to get the footy too often..
I'm probably a bit different with regards Judd's future and I think he needs to retire at years end and let Cripps, Bell, Graham etc take over and it may force them to step up....we are over reliant on Judd and I expect teams to now try and exploit him by playing more talented players on him rather than going purely negative..

Fair call. I was very disappointed in the way that nobody picked up Guthrie early. He really hurt us when he was running free. He barely had a possession after half time, but the damage had been done.
In a lot of ways I hope they do take Judd on: he showed on Selwood that in a contest between them was a win for Judd. It may allow a good player to run freely sometimes, one of my criticisms of Judd was his relative inability to pick up his man, but it does free Judd up to do some serious damage.
I don't think Malthouse will allow anyone to run around on Judd: he likes to have the best mid tagged out (pity we can't manage it all of time, but that is another issue).

I really do think Judd can go on. I just don't think he will.

As for our midfield, yes, we do have to learn to survive and prosper without Judd. However, I am looking for a replacement, our next star mid and I cannot see him on our list at present. We have a lot of 'good, ordinary players', some real good troopers. But we do need to have a champion or 2. Gibbs stepped up last year. But we still need real pace in our centre square unit.

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on March 25, 2015, 07:02:50 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 24, 2015, 10:07:05 pm

Quote from: Mantis on March 24, 2015, 09:55:35 pm

That was the attempt in the 1st or second quarter. I think it was the 1st. Lazy practice teaches lazy as a way of life. Sure you don't have to completely take a guys head off but Daisy wouldn't have even put a twig like Garlett off with that attempt. Guthrie made our blokes look weak in body, slow by foot, and a lack of awareness from what I saw.

I have read the previous posts, but after watching the game there are some sugar coated reports on player performances. Not to worry as we need to see round one against Richmond. I am starting to worry about this first match.

Tigers will start favourites and Nick Bowen in his AFL preview of our season predicted us to finish 14th...so we are underdogs going into the game which isnt a bad thing IMO.
I dont rate Richmond at all and would be very dissapointed if we lost to them...

Really? Didn't they win 11 straight or something like that (including Sydney round 23)? No way we could've done the same thing.

They did win a string of games and beat the Swans but I still dont rate them...played above themselves IMO.......if we cannot beat them in round 1 then
its going to be a long season...

14th ? God, is that how the outside world sees us ?

Quote from: PaulP on March 25, 2015, 08:50:43 pm

14th ? God, is that how the outside world sees us ?

If not lower Paul, if not lower 

Quote from: PaulP on March 25, 2015, 08:50:43 pm

14th ? God, is that how the outside world sees us ?

If not lower Paul, if not lower 

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 25, 2015, 09:15:31 am

Quote from: PassIt2Carrots on March 25, 2015, 07:02:50 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on March 24, 2015, 10:07:05 pm

Quote from: Mantis on March 24, 2015, 09:55:35 pm

That was the attempt in the 1st or second quarter. I think it was the 1st. Lazy practice teaches lazy as a way of life. Sure you don't have to completely take a guys head off but Daisy wouldn't have even put a twig like Garlett off with that attempt. Guthrie made our blokes look weak in body, slow by foot, and a lack of awareness from what I saw.

I have read the previous posts, but after watching the game there are some sugar coated reports on player performances. Not to worry as we need to see round one against Richmond. I am starting to worry about this first match.

Tigers will start favourites and Nick Bowen in his AFL preview of our season predicted us to finish 14th...so we are underdogs going into the game which isnt a bad thing IMO.
I dont rate Richmond at all and would be very dissapointed if we lost to them...

Really? Didn't they win 11 straight or something like that (including Sydney round 23)? No way we could've done the same thing.

They did win a string of games and beat the Swans but I still dont rate them...played above themselves IMO.......if we cannot beat them in round 1 then
its going to be a long season...

And Nick Bowen's prophesying may well come true.

14th ? God, is that how the outside world sees us ?

Quote from: DJC on March 25, 2015, 09:38:00 pm

Quote from: PaulP on March 25, 2015, 08:50:43 pm

14th ? God, is that how the outside world sees us ?

If not lower Paul, if not lower 

The afl.com.au crew are predicting the Suns to finish 7th.

Sigh.

As for our midfield, yes, we do have to learn to survive and prosper without Judd. However, I am looking for a replacement, our next star mid and I cannot see him on our list at present. We have a lot of 'good, ordinary players', some real good troopers. But we do need to have a champion or 2. Gibbs stepped up last year. But we still need real pace in our centre square unit.

I have no problem coming into the season as underdogs. Hopefully we have been truly underestimated by the footy pundits and can deliver a big surprise!

I do not take too much notice of these ladder predictions because a lot of them were done months ago and based on last years results. David King had Carlton nearly last while Gerald Healey thinks that Carlton might be in the eight. King said that was unfair because he had done his months ago while Healey was doing his just then.

Look at Port in 2013 where nearly all predicted it to finish last. Port finished seventh and won a final. What had they done to improve that much in the space of 6 months? Not because of a couple of newbies like Wingard and Wines, nor average trade ins like Moncrief, White and Schulz (That's what we were told), nor Kane Cornes, the old has been. What they had done was to instil confidence and belief in themselves and trust in the club.