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Reply #45
I don't own one, but I have quite a few mates who do, and let's just say BMW should be good at it, because they get lots of opportunities to demonstrate their service and support skills! ;)
They dont have the nickname BM-TROUBLE-U for nothing. Having said that, we handed down Mrs G2C's 09 320 to Junior Junior when I bough Mrs the Golf R (because of the crap trade in amount). We bought it near new with very few kms and apart from the unstuck windscreen, tail light gasket and small oil leak years ago, we have had very few issues. with it. Luck of the draw I guess.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #46
I don't own one, but I have quite a few mates who do, and let's just say BMW should be good at it, because they get lots of opportunities to demonstrate their service and support skills! ;)

That's also what I hear.

I get most of my car buying advice from my brother, who also served in the RAN but trained in engineering then completed his 'Greenies' training (electrician). Today, in 'civvy street' he's an industrial electrician and his hobby is building huge generators and motor bikes from the ground up! One weird dude - family trait!

He knows I'm a bit like Jeremy Clarkson... 'speed and power.'After doing speedway and rally-cross in the mid 80s my relationship with cars changed, a lot.  But I like a safe but sporty car for Mrs Baggers. So we got her a Volvo V40 and she loves it (0-100 in about 6 seconds, which I love ;) ). We've had it for just over 60,000 kms now and haven't had to put a spanner to it... except for the mag wheel that was oystered after she ran over a brick on the Mulgrave Freeway sitting on just over 100kms. Despite the flat tyre car behaved perfectly so she could slow and pull-over, then call the RACV - who were brilliant.

From my brother's advice, we are sticklers for scheduled services and the best quality service... but not through the dealer. Servicing of the Volvo is about 20% more than the piece of [email protected] Mazda CX-3 we traded for it. So, despite the rumours, Volvo's are not exorbitant to service. The one thing the bro insisted on when getting a service... always get the very best quality oil, especially important for the turbo as well.

So now I'm thinking of getting a car for moi. Got an old Volvo S60 3litre turbo in the interim (had 100,000 kms on the clock when I got it, pretty cheap at $14,000 2 years ago) to runaround in. But have to part with it now... just too thirsty, but have fallen in love with AWD. Sticks like shyte to a blanket in all conditions.

Advice? 2nd hand cars are expensive at the moment. I know what my bro reckons but would enjoy and value any opinions from you cats. Budget is around $35,000, smaller than the S60 and must be quick and great on interstate drives. Love driving... and the most comfortable long trip cars I've driven have been Volvos and Saabs... must be the Scandinavian blood.

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #47
They dont have the nickname BM-TROUBLE-U for nothing. Having said that, we handed down Mrs G2C's 09 320 to Junior Junior when I bough Mrs the Golf R (because of the crap trade in amount). We bought it near new with very few kms and apart from the unstuck windscreen, tail light gasket and small oil leak years ago, we have had very few issues. with it. Luck of the draw I guess.

A mate's son has a Golf R and I took it for a spin... loved it. Took a GTI on an interstate trip about 5 years ago... just bloody brilliant. Not a huge fan, for myself, of front wheel drive but this thing was so well engineered you could barely tell.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #48
A mate's son has a Golf R and I took it for a spin... loved it. Took a GTI on an interstate trip about 5 years ago... just bloody brilliant. Not a huge fan, for myself, of front wheel drive but this thing was so well engineered you could barely tell.
Daughter had a Golf and loved it too but VW service and support is horrendous.
They fight you on everything you try and get fixed under warranty and only want luxury car trade ins, plus never have enough stock. Where I live several of the brands/ dealers are owned by the autopact group and there in lies the problem...having three local VW dealers owned by the same people means no competition.Think they own around 30 dealerships in Aus selling various brands...

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #49
A mate's son has a Golf R and I took it for a spin... loved it. Took a GTI on an interstate trip about 5 years ago... just bloody brilliant. Not a huge fan, for myself, of front wheel drive but this thing was so well engineered you could barely tell.
The Mrs's Golf R is a weapon, I don't it too much as I'd lose my licence in it for sure. I have given the launch control a try on a deserted country road, FMD!
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #50
Daughter had a Golf and loved it too but VW service and support is horrendous.
They fight you on everything you try and get fixed under warranty and only want luxury car trade ins, plus never have enough stock. Where I live several of the brands/ dealers are owned by the autopact group and there in lies the problem...having three local VW dealers owned by the same people means no competition.Think they own around 30 dealerships in Aus selling various brands...
I have found VW service and support excellent thus far. Got into strife a while back when the sunroof got stuck open on a Sat shopping trip. Rang them, they told me to come in and they fixed it.
2017 - 16th
2018 - Wooden Spoon
2019 - 16th
2020 - dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021 - Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022 - Real Deal or more of the same?
2023 - "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #51
The most unreliable car I have ever owned was a Mercedes Benz GLC 4 door coupe which I bought new in late 2017.  From day 1 I had  "crabbing" issues with the steering causing the steering wheel to shake violently when on full lock, either left or right.  Dealership told me it was within manufacturer's specifications and there was nothing it could do for me.

Research showed there were thousands of complaints, especially in the UK, where it was acknowledged that there was a design flaw in all rhd GLC models.  Finally late in 2018 in the UK  newly designed steering knuckles were supplied and fitted under warranty.

There was no warranty recall in Australia, and it was only when I brought the recall information in the UK to the dealer's notice that I had the problem fixed under warranty.  I also had numerous problems with the electronics and so I got rid of it late last year.

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #52
On the other hand, between 2006 and 2017 family members and I had a number of Lexus sedans and SUVs.  We had zero problems with the vehicles and the service departments were outstanding.

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #53
The most unreliable car I have ever owned was a Mercedes Benz GLC 4 door coupe which I bought new in late 2017.  From day 1 I had  "crabbing" issues with the steering causing the steering wheel to shake violently when on full lock, either left or right.  Dealership told me it was within manufacturer's specifications and there was nothing it could do for me.

Research showed there were thousands of complaints, especially in the UK, where it was acknowledged that there was a design flaw in all rhd GLC models.  Finally late in 2018 in the UK  newly designed steering knuckles were supplied and fitted under warranty.

There was no warranty recall in Australia, and it was only when I brought the recall information in the UK to the dealer's notice that I had the problem fixed under warranty.  I also had numerous problems with the electronics and so I got rid of it late last year.
Not called the three point swastika for nothing and remember they are doing you a favor by allowing you to drive one of their cars.
Warranty recalls are based on money and how much its going to cost them, car makers will happily let people have accidents etc until their insurance threshold is reached and they have to issue recalls.
Real experience in the showroom too, SIL has one on lease through work and had to pick it up, you need to shower twice after listening to they BS feed to you and how important you are to them and how superior you are compared to other motorists now you own a Merc. My SIL is a western suburbs boy used to driving VL Holden commodores and had never experienced such an ordeal....

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #54
One of my colleagues had a BMW which she called the Bad Motor Wagen.  It spent more time at the stealers’ than on the road.

She was rapt when it was stolen but the thieves abandoned it when it broke down again and it was returned to her 🙄
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: The classic/fave car thread

Reply #55
I used to watch a car show hosted by a mechanic on YouTube.  He hated Beemers and reckoned that they had a lot of cheap plasticy components that only lasted a few years and then cost a fortune to replace. Lesson, don't buy one second hand older than a couple years, especially with high Ks and less than perfect service record.
Reality always wins in the end.