Carlton Supporters Club

Don't think many changes are required just need continuity without this chopping and changing all year. We got a very good list would welcome Karl Amon and Bobby Hill with open arms.

In some ways, the Pies are a hard mob to pin down because they have an unusual profile. They don't win many of the key statistical indicators that coaches tend to rate, yet they just find a way to win.

Think we need better contested players for the big moments...Amon and Hill dont do it for me and if we pay Amon 500k a year for 4-5 years we would be insane and learned nothing from recruiting disasters of recent years.

You could reword that with end being "yet we just find a way to lose".

If you look at the goals they kicked ie Ginnivan, Elliott and Johnson plus the McCreery out of his ArSe one from the boundary and then look at their possession tally it comes down to taking your opportunities and being efficient. You look down the other end and we just squandered entries and missed shots at goal, that round the corner BS from Charlie has its place but sometimes you just have the confidence to go back line up straight and nail them and thats what they did.

Forget the Walsh injury, it is what it is. The lack of composure, yep needs work. What I cannot understand for the life of me is why we:
1. Didn't go with TDK and Pitto v Cameron and Cox
2. Why we picked Williams in such a crucial game after having missed so much footy.

Forget the Walsh injury, it is what it is. The lack of composure, yep needs work. What I cannot understand for the life of me is why we:
1. Didn't go with TDK and Pitto v Cameron and Cox
2. Why we picked Williams in such a crucial game after having missed so much footy.

Walsh , Hewett and Kennedy missing isn't helping considering they trained with Cerra and Cripps all pre season
TDK wouldn't have made much of a difference I don't think - just another inexperienced player and thought Williams was pretty good. Had more contested possession than uncontested with 83% efficiency - that's a solid day in the office.
LOB 83% time on ground with zero tackles. The only other players that had zero tackles for both teams were forwards. 
17 outside possessions with 68% efficiency <---- thats not good enough. He wasn't the cause though - Fisher had another inconsistent game, Durdin is extremely inconsistent and needs a very big pre season.

I thought Williams was extremely ordinary watching him live. Played on Ginnivan, pushed and shoved the kid when the ball was being bounced, then got torched by him when the ball came down. I'd swap the young kid for Williams in a heartbeat. Cannot stand the bloke.

I thought Williams was extremely ordinary watching him live. Played on Ginnivan, pushed and shoved the kid when the ball was being bounced, then got torched by him when the ball came down. I'd swap the young kid for Williams in a heartbeat. Cannot stand the bloke.

Voss made a point in his press conference about individual growth which is quite relevant.

I can't think of a player who played today who is on the down-slope slippery slide.
It's not an aging group and each and every one of them 'can' be better next season.
Some will be better because they won't be impacted by injury
Some will be better just though natural growth and maturity.

Sure, we won't get 100% improvement, there will be setbacks for some
But overall it should be a better side.

Williams is a hard at it player with sublime skills - he's been disappointing but had a good game. Ginnivan just did his job as a small forward - other than Motlop the rest are for the tip.