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Re: Brownlow Medal 2022

Reply #121
Imagine if Collingwood had Cripps now 😳

Obviously you don’t know if it wouldve worked out or who else wouldve come and gone but imagine him in the team that played this year!

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Reply #122
Seems like a pretty honest recollection to me. Admitted he stuffed up big time, learned his lesson and was determined not to make the same mistake twice. And ended up with a gun.
Still waiting to hear Dodoro admit to ANY of his numerous mistakes

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Reply #123
Imagine if Collingwood had Cripps now 😳

Obviously you don’t know if it wouldve worked out or who else wouldve come and gone but imagine him in the team that played this year!

I had the same thought. I'd be curious to know how Cripps would be deployed in McRae's slingshot footy.

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Reply #124
Seems like a pretty honest recollection to me. Admitted he stuffed up big time, learned his lesson and was determined not to make the same mistake twice. And ended up with a gun.
I wanted Maynard at the Boekhorst pick, he wasnt slow at Sandy Dragons when I watched him play a few games and was thought of as being a Luke Hodge type player of the future I dont rate Rendell's views much and him missing on Cripps is no surprise....
Some players are just born natural footballers, the athletic stuff can be improved on but players like Cripps, Hodge, Maynard, etc are core team reliable players who dont need to be Usain Bolt as they are just made for the game in other areas.
Sam Walsh is another real natural footballer......Rankine, Rozee etc from his draft might be quicker, prettier to watch, upside heavy, but I'd be picking the footballer first everytime.

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Reply #125
I wanted Maynard at the Boekhorst pick, he wasnt slow at Sandy Dragons when I watched him play a few games and was thought of as being a Luke Hodge type player of the future I dont rate Rendell's views much and him missing on Cripps is no surprise....
Some players are just born natural footballers, the athletic stuff can be improved on but players like Cripps, Hodge, Maynard, etc are core team reliable players who dont need to be Usain Bolt as they are just made for the game in other areas.
Sam Walsh is another real natural footballer......Rankine, Rozee etc from his draft might be quicker, prettier to watch, upside heavy, but I'd be picking the footballer first everytime.
Rankine and Rozee wouldn't tie Walshy's boot laces.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #126
EB....I've mentioned it many times.....that 2014 trade period/draft set our club back 5 years with the terrible decisions made.

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Reply #127
EB....I've mentioned it many times.....that 2014 trade period/draft set our club back 5 years with the terrible decisions made.
Not wrong Surfie, when you stuff up when you go hard at the draft it does set you back, every pick was a dud and then we trade in Jaksch and Whiley who were also duds.....
Lost Waite to Nth, traded Garlett out to Melbourne for peanuts, sacked Robbo no return there either, then to top off we picked Tutt in the PSD and fecked up every rookie pick too with nothing of substance coming in via that route either.
We were 0 from about 10-12, in terms of draft moves.....it couldnt get any worse..a monkey with a dart board could have done better than our recruiters.

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Reply #128
And all of those blokes would've/should've been in the prime of their careers in the last year or two. You don't get them all right but that one was a shambles.

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Reply #129
If only it wasn't just that year.  We fecked up most of our picks between 2012 and 2015. 
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

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Reply #130
If only it wasn't just that year.  We fecked up most of our picks between 2012 and 2015.

It wasn’t until SOS came onboard that we had any idea about how to use the draft.  Apart from using our #1 picks on the obvious candidates, decades of poor on field performances produced nothing meaningful in terms of improving our list.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

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Reply #131
Our drafting pre SOS was abhorrent. From 2014 to as far back as the Yarra draft of 2008, we drafted/rookied 29 players, only 3 players remain on AFL lists (Cripps, Holman and Robbo who has seemingly retired).
I can't format tables for crap on this site but here it is anyway (for you enjoyment)
Year   Rnd   Pick   Team   Player   Where are they now   Games Played
2014   1   19   Carlton   Blaine Boekhorst       25
2014   2   28   Carlton   Dillon Viojo-Rainbow       0
2014   4   60   Carlton   Clem Smith       7
2014   4   63   Carlton   Jayden Foster       0
2013   1   13   Carlton   Patrick Cripps   Carlton   159
2013   3   39   Carlton   Cameron Giles       0
2013   3   51   Carlton   Nicholas Holman   Gold Coast   9
2012   1   11   Carlton   Troy Menzel       44
2012   2   35   Carlton   Tom Temay       0
2012   3   54   Carlton   Nicholas Graham      
2011   1   22   Carlton   Joshua Bootsma       14
2011   2   44   Carlton   Sam Rowe       100
2011   3   62   Carlton   Dylan Buckley FS       41
2010   1   18   Carlton   Matthew Watson       23
2010   2   34   Carlton   Patrick McCarthy       1
2010   2   42   Carlton   Luke Mitchell       1
2010   4   67   Carlton   Andrew McInnes       17
2010   4   70   Carlton   Nicholas Duigan       43
2010   5   85   Carlton   Jeff Garlett R       155
2010   6   99   Carlton   David Ellard R       55
2009   1   12   Carlton   Kane Lucas       42
2009   3   43   Carlton   Marcus Davies       17
2009   4   59   Carlton   Rohan Kerr       0
2009   5   72   Carlton   Sam Jacobs R       204
2009   6   83   Carlton   Aaron Joseph R       50
2008   1   6   Carlton   Christopher Yarran       119
2008   3   40   Carlton   Mitch Robinson   Brisbane   247
2008   5   65   Carlton   Rhys O'Keeffe       3
2008   6   80   Carlton   Caleb Tiller       0
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: Brownlow Medal 2022

Reply #132
Our drafting pre SOS was abhorrent. From 2014 to as far back as the Yarra draft of 2008, we drafted/rookied 29 players, only 3 players remain on AFL lists (Cripps, Holman and Robbo who has seemingly retired).
I can't format tables for crap on this site but here it is anyway (for you enjoyment)
Year   Rnd   Pick   Team   Player   Where are they now   Games Played
2014   1   19   Carlton   Blaine Boekhorst       25
2014   2   28   Carlton   Dillon Viojo-Rainbow       0
2014   4   60   Carlton   Clem Smith       7
2014   4   63   Carlton   Jayden Foster       0
2013   1   13   Carlton   Patrick Cripps   Carlton   159
2013   3   39   Carlton   Cameron Giles       0
2013   3   51   Carlton   Nicholas Holman   Gold Coast   9
2012   1   11   Carlton   Troy Menzel       44
2012   2   35   Carlton   Tom Temay       0
2012   3   54   Carlton   Nicholas Graham      
2011   1   22   Carlton   Joshua Bootsma       14
2011   2   44   Carlton   Sam Rowe       100
2011   3   62   Carlton   Dylan Buckley FS       41
2010   1   18   Carlton   Matthew Watson       23
2010   2   34   Carlton   Patrick McCarthy       1
2010   2   42   Carlton   Luke Mitchell       1
2010   4   67   Carlton   Andrew McInnes       17
2010   4   70   Carlton   Nicholas Duigan       43
2010   5   85   Carlton   Jeff Garlett R       155
2010   6   99   Carlton   David Ellard R       55
2009   1   12   Carlton   Kane Lucas       42
2009   3   43   Carlton   Marcus Davies       17
2009   4   59   Carlton   Rohan Kerr       0
2009   5   72   Carlton   Sam Jacobs R       204
2009   6   83   Carlton   Aaron Joseph R       50
2008   1   6   Carlton   Christopher Yarran       119
2008   3   40   Carlton   Mitch Robinson   Brisbane   247
2008   5   65   Carlton   Rhys O'Keeffe       3
2008   6   80   Carlton   Caleb Tiller       0

Certainly I’m making zero effort to defend the decision makers from the time but I doubt you’d find many selections from 14-8 years ago still in the system.
At a guess maybe 10, 10 year players drafted in total each year ?
Let’s go BIG !

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Reply #133
That is a scary indictment of the pathetic nature of our recruiting in that period. No wonder we needed a complete cleanout under Bolton. Maybe he did a better job than I thought making the painful yards to a better future. His reward was to be sacked, a fate I think he always knew was coming from the day he started.

On another note Boekhorst was one of the favourites for the Sandover over here before he did his knee in August. A good WAFL player but completely out of his depth in the AFL but we have had a few of those over the years looking a that list

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Reply #134
I still cry when I see we took Kane Lucas the pick before Daniel Talia 😢😵‍💫