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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #645 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Black lives do matter and so do white lives, this video shows how out of control things have become. We all agree their is no place for racism but it doesnt mean open season on white folk either.
The Police didnt charge the offenders and I reckon you can join the dots why...do we really want Australia being like the USA?

https://www.tr.news/violent-attack-melbourne/?fbclid=IwAR1bjVJFes0Y0JFNllUgOH-C2fTNwlHIYME2OQZnUGOjW_pSoqU75doJPMc 

PS...Been told since the girl concerned is alleged to be no saint either, but this attack had nothing to do with any previous activities
and was unprovoked.




Sheesh, this is horrible but not about racism. It's about we humans. So many of us, when confronted by a violent injustice, resort to more violence to resolve the problem. I feel the same, but retaliation only breeds more resentment... then more violence. And so the cycle of stupidity and violence continues.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #646 –
Quote from: Baggers on
Sheesh, this is horrible but not about racism. It's about we humans. So many of us, when confronted by a violent injustice, resort to more violence to resolve the problem. I feel the same, but retaliation only breeds more resentment... then more violence. And so the cycle of stupidity and violence continues.

Those girls abusing the girl sitting down weren't going to let up.

I agree we humans need to be better but this mode of thinking doesnt match historical human sentiment. 

Veni vidi vici
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #647 –
Apparently we didnt see the worst of it in the video, they allegedly dragged her off the bench and stomped on her head repeatedly. She is very lucky. Imagine the riots if the perps were white and the assault victim was African or Indigenous Australian ?
2017-16th
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #648 –
I think you blokes are missing the point. The incidents that lead to rioting and protests were triggers. Individual incidents are not really the issue here. Nobody has ever suggested that people of colour are holier than thou, or that they're not capable of hate crimes. But the numbers don't lie - people of colour are victims a lot more than they are victimisers.

You don't measure justice by the level of outrage. The politics of resentment is a dead end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #649 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I think you blokes are missing the point. The incidents that lead to rioting and protests were triggers. Individual incidents are not really the issue here. Nobody has ever suggested that people of colour are holier than thou, or that they're not capable of hate crimes. But the numbers don't lie - people of colour are victims a lot more than they are victimisers.

You don't measure justice by the level of outrage. The politics of resentment is a dead end.

Got some statistics to back that up Paul?

I'd wager it's wrong.  Just a hunch.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #650 –
And individual incidents are entirely the point.  Hence why one mans death starked a 7 day looting spray.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #651 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Got some statistics to back that up Paul?

I'd wager it's wrong.  Just a hunch.


Nah, just made it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

"Racially motivated hate crime
The federal government publishes a list annually of Hate Crime Statistics, 2009.[61] Also published by the federal government is the Known Offender's Race by Bias Motivation, 2009.[62] According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of reported hate crime offenders were white, 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were indigenous Americans (Hispanics were not separately delineated).[63] The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation.[64] The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias."

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #652 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
And individual incidents are entirely the point.  Hence why one mans death starked a 7 day looting spree.

I know, and said as much in my previous post. In historical terms, this has been a problem for centuries. The latest individual incident is simply the trigger for protesting against centuries of racial hatred. It could have been an incident in the future that triggered the protests, or it could have been an earlier incident.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #653 –
Quote from: PaulP on

Nah, just made it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

"Racially motivated hate crime
The federal government publishes a list annually of Hate Crime Statistics, 2009.[61] Also published by the federal government is the Known Offender's Race by Bias Motivation, 2009.[62] According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of reported hate crime offenders were white, 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were indigenous Americans (Hispanics were not separately delineated).[63] The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation.[64] The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias."

What a sad indictment on we humans. Difference is so frightening to too many... with so many unhealthy reactions. The blue eye brown eye exercise by Jane Elliott decades ago clearly showed how quickly we go to judgement and condemnation based on colour!!!
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #654 –
Quote from: PaulP on

Nah, just made it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

"Racially motivated hate crime
The federal government publishes a list annually of Hate Crime Statistics, 2009.[61] Also published by the federal government is the Known Offender's Race by Bias Motivation, 2009.[62] According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation Uniform Crime Report database, in 2010 58.6% of reported hate crime offenders were white, 18.4% of offenders were black, 8.9% were of individuals of multiple races and 1% of offenders were indigenous Americans (Hispanics were not separately delineated).[63] The report also reveals that 48% of all hate crime offenders were motivated by the victim's race, while 18% were based on the victim's religion, and another 18% were based on the victim's sexual orientation.[64] The report states that among hate crime offenses motivated by race, 70% were composed of anti-black bias, while 17.7% were of anti-white bias, and 5% were of anti-Asian or Pacific Islander bias."

Key words.  Reported hate crimes.

My assertion is that hate crime against white people doesnt exist.

Right?  Or they're just being taken advantage of.

Spare me.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

I call BS.  Ive had a knife held to me once.  I'll give you a clue.  Not a white person. Happened on the number 75 tram heading home from the city.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #655 –
@Thryleon

Reported hate crimes.

How are these crimes defined and who defines them?
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #656 –
Exactly cookie.  Only white people are racist these days.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #657 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
Key words.  Reported hate crimes.

My assertion is that hate crime against white people doesnt exist.

Right?  Or they're just being taken advantage of.

Spare me.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3.xls

I call BS.  Ive had a knife held to me once.  I'll give you a clue.  Not a white person. Happened on the number 75 tram heading home from the city.

Those figures are for homicide, not crime in general.

You cannot use your personal experience to magically explain away global, historical trends.