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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #750 –
Ask the bungling idiot who calls himself premier.  FU after FU

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #751 –
Quote from: capcom on
Ask the bungling idiot who calls himself premier.  FU after FU
Not an Andrews fan CC, but I think ScoMo bullied him into opening up Victoria a bit earlier than he wanted and your idiot faction
thought it was the green light to go back to normal and forget about the CoVid basics.
You look at Sidebottom, pissed, half naked and wandering around the streets and you wonder WTF that sets as an example to the public especially after all the warnings, education AFL players would have had about looking after themselves and avoiding trouble especially during a pandemic.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #752 –
Quote from: capcom on
Ask the bungling idiot who calls himself premier.  FU after FU
Carl Williams is dead mate.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #753 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Not an Andrews fan CC, but I think ScoMo bullied him into opening up Victoria a bit earlier than he wanted and your idiot faction
thought it was the green light to go back to normal and forget about the CoVid basics.
You look at Sidebottom, pissed, half naked and wandering around the streets and you wonder WTF that sets as an example to the public especially after all the warnings, education AFL players would have had about looking after themselves and avoiding trouble especially during a pandemic.
Ive heard all sorts of horror stories about imbeciles in the North West not giving a f#$%. Its almost like its being done on purpose.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #754 –
GITC.... They're everywhere mate,  we're drowning in imbeciles... Dangerous,  selfish, clueless ones.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #755 –
A problem in Australia seems to be testing is being applied in a political manner, not uniformly.

In Victoria they are testing hotspots, and they report positives from a single real or false positive as an case, that will make the numbers looks artificially bad, and the rate is roughly at or below the false positive rate so it's hard to separate real versus potential cases. The true picture only surfaces after two or three consecutive tests.

In other regions they are testing in a much more egalitarian fashion, silly stuff like testing clusters 800km from the capital, or testing 100% of the well-to-do areas and ignoring the ghettos. For example, I read NSW was doing concentrated testing on one side of the Murray, while Victoria is doing zero testing straight across the river, consolidated from both sides have zero real cases.

Some regions require two positives tests before a COVID-19 case is reported as confirmed, other regions report cases based on one positive, there is no uniform approach!
The Force Awakens!
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #757 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Poor old Bruce McAveney is copping it for fat shaming Jake Stringer.. think Bruce suggested Jake didn't come back in the best knick and was carrying some kegs.
He didn't say Jake has a fat rump and his guts are hanging out of his jumper but in this over sanitised crazy world he has committed a crime and will be summoned to account by the  public and other media.

Funny thing it was BT who did that first.  Bwuce just went on with it.

Amazing how BT is a protected species.  The guy is a proper dimwit and carries on like a porkchop.

What I wouldnt give to be listening to Dennis Commetti who was witty and had a much better commentary voice.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #758 –
Quote from: Baggers on
Such a vexing subject this racism stuff. Just for clarity perhaps reminding ourselves of the actual definition of racism might help... paraphrased it's (as you know) to judge another unfavourably based on their race or membership of a race.
  Its just as racist to promote people based on race as it is to denigrate them.  If not its worse.  Its discriminatory based on racial prejudice.  Person X is worthy of promoting because of their race.  Thats how the whole WASP culture started to begin with.
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I'm with the Fluffy One in regards to not being personally offended by being referred to as a 'white fella' or honkey and so on though I respect, totally, those who are affronted or even hurt by such labels.

BUT, then I'm a member of the majority race who have been running the show for eons and I don't have a history of wounds resulting from being judged unfairly based on my colour (or gender) to the extent it resulted in my unfair exclusion in many societal norms (employment/teams/accommodation/transport/friendship/marriage etc).
This is happening to me now, even though I was discriminated against as a child for being a "wog" by the white kids at school.  Now i'm one of the white ones, solely because there are more migrants of actual black colour here than their used to be and Im seen as an oppressor.  Its all good, I should just wear that, because of systemic gains by my culture.  right?

Son of a migrant who left Greece in Civil war.  Yep.  Privlidged.

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So when we see the reactions of folks of colour to prejudice perhaps we should factor in how it feels to have led of life of exclusion and even ridicule based on skin colour. If you suppress and even denigrate any individual or group of folks it follows that they will either turn on themselves and be convinced they're inferior, bad, unworthy, wrong etc and become depressed or worse... or they'll bottle it up then explode and lash out when it all becomes too much. Just look at what cyber bullying can do to some young folks. Suicide is not uncommon... neither is joining a gang and fighting back. Just thoughts regarding one particular aspect of racism.

Exactly.  I am reacting to how unfair its been to have spent the majority of my school years being called a fat smelly wog, but now being called an oppressive wasp, and for some reason also being told that women need to be promoted ahead of me too because some men have reaped the rewards of being in power.

Yep, fairness.  Life has taught me that life is not fair, and the most unfair thing you can expect is equality.  Why?  because in order to achieve equality, we have to continue seeding discontent, division, elitism, and promotion of people based on race, gender, religious idology etc.

We are simply exchanging one form of discrimination for another, and all the people purporting to promote equality are fueling the continuation of discriminatory behaviour.

TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY FFS.  That doesnt mean promote, or deny one.  It means give everyone a level playing field.  This is why society is deteriorating FWIW.  We keep making bonehead decisions on the back of having made bonehead decisions because we keep trying to make it an eye for an eye.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #759 –
The idea of promoting folks based on gender or race is simply a short to medium term strategy to give those groups a leg up, groups that have been disadvantaged or excluded for decades, in order to gain long term benefits. It is no different to playing the kids ahead of more seasoned players, or giving young people the first home buyers loan grant. It's not a new or revolutionary idea, and it manifests itself in many ways throughout society.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #760 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY FFS.  That doesnt mean promote, or deny one.  It means give everyone a level playing field.  This is why society is deteriorating FWIW.  We keep making bonehead decisions on the back of having made bonehead decisions because we keep trying to make it an eye for an eye.
While I'm generally in agreement with this statement, this COVID situation is a case in which the current situation is exacerbated by a very specific group behaviour and not really attributable to the wider community, yet it impacts everyone.

Governments are effectively powerless, and in most cases politically weak in the light of the current problems.

What are they going to do, publicly broadcast the fundamental cause and divide the community, it's untenable when the problem is really people not policy. It's too late in this case to do much, because the violations that caused the current outbreak came weeks ago when groups ignored the rules to host large family or community gatherings. Ironically, some cursory data suggests these groups are also the most vulnerable, they are actually the ones who should be ultra-vigilant of quarantine and isolation rules!

Political correctness and a minority privilege mentality has made things worse, yet there is no chance of it being address by politicians!
The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #761 –
Quote from: flyboy77 on
https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/failure-after-failure-for-tough-talking-andrews-20200705-p5596l
That feels like going the early crow.

I hope for the well-being of people in NSW the author is correct, because otherwise the situation might be genuinely grim given the recent relaxing of restrictions there and in Qld.

It's a very long bow to draw a relationship between the lack of ADF involvement and the current situation, a correlation rather than a causation.

This statement in the article is a huge tell, about COVID-19 numbers and reporting;
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Andrews tries to justify the jump in numbers as being due to the much greater level of testing under way in Victoria relative to anywhere else in the country. He is not forthcoming on why such intensive testing is only necessary in his state.
So they are not intensively testing in the other states, "The Donald" approach, what virus?

Below is the policy of other states, but it is not a long term effective policy!

The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #762 –
Was interesting to see 6 F1 drivers didnt "take a knee" with the rest of their colleagues before the race last night. They all posted reasoning via their social media pages. Leclerc posted  "..what matters are facts and behaviors in our daily life rather than formal gestures that could be seen as controversial in some countries.."
Thoughts?
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #763 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Was interesting to see 6 F1 drivers didnt "take a knee" with the rest of their colleagues before the race last night. They all posted reasoning via their social media pages. Leclerc posted  "..what matters are facts and behaviors in our daily life rather than formal gestures that could be seen as controversial in some countries.."
Thoughts?
Is this the sign of a society segment or country that refuses the US global perspective, or just a fragmentation of "The West" as we know it?

FWIW, I doubt the future is much brighter for China, especially given that HK appears to be just the trigger some have been searching for!
The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #764 –
These latest measures certainly have a whiff of panic about them. What haven't we been told??
Reality always wins in the end.