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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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Not click bait this time....
https://au.news.yahoo.com/mum-and-daughter-reveal-shocking-melbourne-lockdown-conditions-022310703.html

191 new cases...we are heading for full lockdown in Melbourne
One of the guys here at work has a wife in VicPol who is working at the site. He said last night she was assaulted trying to stop a bunch of trouble makers from within the high rise from pinching the food hampers from other residents. Apparently the food hampers by COVID-19 protocol get left outside the apartment doors for collection.

These pricks weren't pinching the hampers to eat, they were caught pinching them and throwing them in a commercial bin!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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One of the guys here at work has a wife in VicPol who is working at the site. He said last night she was assaulted trying to stop a bunch of trouble makers from within the high rise from pinching the food hampers from other residents. Apparently the food hampers by COVID-19 protocol get left outside the apartment doors for collection.

These pricks weren't pinching the hampers to eat, they were caught pinching them and throwing them in a commercial bin!
What lovely community spirit, first class a-holes.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #782
One of the guys here at work has a wife in VicPol who is working at the site. He said last night she was assaulted trying to stop a bunch of trouble makers from within the high rise from pinching the food hampers from other residents. Apparently the food hampers by COVID-19 protocol get left outside the apartment doors for collection.

These pricks weren't pinching the hampers to eat, they were caught pinching them and throwing them in a commercial bin!

Nothing surprises me anymore. These events bring out a lot more of the bad in people (and bad people) than the good. I'm sure they'll be some sort of excuse made for the culprits if it ever gets revealed. No doubt someone else will be at fault.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #783
Actually the Flourish chart is pretty good, in that it reports realistic figures of a bunch of relative diseases over a short period. I don't think the authors made any effort to represent itself as a statistical breakdown of all deaths.

As I mentioned before, it's easy for cynics to misrepresent the statistics, because they publish and discuss the figures as absolute and not as percentage change in a baseline. COVID-19 is a new disease, it's numbers have to be reported in addition to pre-existing causes of death, not as a percentage of the previous death rates!

A nice figure in the flourish chart is the COVID-19 versus Influenza, as cynics always use the "COVID-19 is no worse than the Flu"  argument, but clearly that is not the case and never was! If you hear "COVID-19 no worse than the Flu", you know it's fake news!

FWIW, the general international consensus is that COVID-19 deaths are understated, because many regions use the numbers as a political tool. For example, China and Russia pretty much exclude COVID-19 as a cause if any other disease is present. They do that despite it being accepted that people with pre-existing conditions are far more susceptible to death from a coincident COVID-19 infection. For example, if you get a COVID-19 infection and that affects your heart and pass away, and you have a record of a previous heart condition, Russia and China will report the cause of death cardiovascular disease. Meaning the reported figures are artificially low, probably only for political and social engineering purposes.

Anyway, all that spin is just for the media and conspiracy theorists, the numbers are so big and the sample size so large that the baselines are well established now. How many get it, how many of those who get it will die, are all pretty much locked into the math.

Rubbish. A graph cannot be "pretty good" if it excludes relevant data. By design or otherwise....

So it's just coincidence that covid happens to end up on top? ROFL.

" the general international consensus is that COVID-19 deaths are understated" Disagree. Strongly. China and Russia are but 2 countries. Excess death numbers do not support your proposition.

To digress, in Italy for example, 99% of COVID deaths had 1 or more comorbidity. If one dies with COVID rather than from COVID....it counts!

India has shown the way with only 14 deaths per million - in a poor country with high population and familial density.

Many US States and counties have adopted a probable test (over 15 categories), where a person who hasn't  actually tested positive gets treated as a positive....

IFRs - globally on average little more than a bad flu season - fact. https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/

And let's not even get started on how many lives would have been saved if treated early with the HCQ cocktail. Or if f...wits liked Cuomo in NYC hadn't forced elderly folk back into homes from hospitals irrespective of whether they had the virus. Sweden and the UK also had very poor records in this regard.

And before you ramble on about WHO's latest BS proclamation, do some reading:

Four studies this past week in support of HCQ:

HCQ/AZ/Zn, 99.3% outpatient survival rate (Zelenko): https://preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1

HCQ reduces mortality by >50% (Henry Ford): https://ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext

HCQ+AZ w/ 0.5% mortality rate (Raoult) : https://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302817

Mount Sinai (NYC) study by Mikami et al showing HCQ resulted in a ~50% decreased mortality rate in COVID-19 patients (similar results as Henry Ford Hospital).

https://t.co/tgFtMcG2Q4?amp=1

The most politicised medical 'event' ever - Big Pharma gone mad. Again.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #784
Well back to the lock down.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #785
Rubbish. A graph cannot be "pretty good" if it excludes relevant data. By design or otherwise....

So it's just coincidence that covid happens to end up on top? ROFL.
It's fine, it is relative to other diseases which is perfectly relevant.

As opposed to some the figures you've quoted below, like;
India has shown the way with only 14 deaths per million - in a poor country with high population and familial density.
Hmm, officially India report about 20K deaths from 700K cases, that 20/700 * 100 = 3%

The thing that is extraordinary about India is that it is not like Brazil, at least yet, the strongest drivers of COVID-19 deaths versus cases are socio-economic! Of course India, unlike yourself and Brazil, isn't in denial about COVID-19, India took it very very seriously right from the start.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #786
Many US States and counties have adopted a probable test (over 15 categories), where a person who hasn't  actually tested positive gets treated as a positive....
In infectious disease control it's normal for tests described as indeterminate or irregular to be treated as positive, any test that isn't a negative is a positive because the people doing the testing are not idiots!

It's called playing it safe and not being a reckless goose!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #787
IFRs - globally on average little more than a bad flu season - fact. https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/
 
Except it's fake reporting.

The actual COVID-19 infection rate is almost 5X the Flu infection rate, and the Flourish chart shows that, it's simple accounting and not to be feared.

Real figures, real news, not fake!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #788
And let's not even get started on how many lives would have been saved if treated early with the HCQ cocktail. Or if f...wits liked Cuomo in NYC hadn't forced elderly folk back into homes from hospitals irrespective of whether they had the virus. Sweden and the UK also had very poor records in this regard.
 The latest science peer reviewed and verified research suggests...........None, with a slight chance of more deaths like happened in Brazil!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #789
And before you ramble on about WHO's latest BS proclamation, do some reading:

Four studies this past week in support of HCQ:
HCQ/AZ/Zn, 99.3% outpatient survival rate (Zelenko): https://preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1
HCQ reduces mortality by >50% (Henry Ford): https://ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30534-8/fulltext
HCQ+AZ w/ 0.5% mortality rate (Raoult) : https://sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1477893920302817
Mount Sinai (NYC) study by Mikami et al showing HCQ resulted in a ~50% decreased mortality rate in COVID-19 patients (similar results as Henry Ford Hospital).
https://t.co/tgFtMcG2Q4?amp=1
Any chance of referencing some peer review articles from non-predatory journals that aren't using fake or redundant researcher profiles?

Do you know what Open Access infers?

I suppose probably not, the audited journals are not going to risk their reputation allowing this rubbish to be self-published without peer review.

Nobody is going to seriously claim that HCQ is "the missing link" when it's given with a barrage of other drugs including other powerful antibiotics. Perhaps the circular referencing is a hint, it may be worthwhile spending some time reading up on correlation versus causation, and how much work is required to get from a correlation to a causation, the answers won't be available this year!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #790
Well back to the lock down.
Yep, 6w from 11:59pm tomorrow, Melb metro and Mitchell Shire.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #791
Interesting developments in our town.  Businesses are no longer exactly welcoming out of town tourists.  Seems like they learned from the last time when they blew in and took large quantities of stock ordered for the locals.   


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #792
Interesting developments in our town.  Businesses are no longer exactly welcoming out of town tourists.  Seems like they learned from the last time when they blew in and took large quantities of stock ordered for the locals.
Good, these roaming parasites are actually part of the problem!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #793
Interesting developments in our town.  Businesses are no longer exactly welcoming out of town tourists.  Seems like they learned from the last time when they blew in and took large quantities of stock ordered for the locals.   



Likewise here. Suddenly, the holiday homes and AirB'nBs are filling up! Once the constabulary does a sweep of number plates over the next few days I expect a few to get their marching orders... along with a fine.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #794
Any chance of referencing some peer review articles from non-predatory journals that aren't using fake or redundant researcher profiles?

Do you know what Open Access infers?

I suppose probably not, the audited journals are not going to risk their reputation allowing this rubbish to be self-published without peer review.

Nobody is going to seriously claim that HCQ is "the missing link" when it's given with a barrage of other drugs including other powerful antibiotics. Perhaps the circular referencing is a hint, it may be worthwhile spending some time reading up on correlation versus causation, and how much work is required to get from a correlation to a causation, the answers won't be available this year!

Ah, so you resort to ad hominem attack.

The play of the average intellect.

Missing link? wtf does that mean. Multiple observational studies in multiple independent jurisdictions have show the 'blend' to be extremely highly effective if given as an early stage treatment....and in the right dosages.

What, you reckon it's all made up?

Dispute the evidence not the non "peer review journal"...

Should I recount the Lancet's last lame effort to discredit HCQ?

Weak as piss LP. Put up of something of substance or STFU.
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