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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1290 – August 31, 2020, 08:40:28 pm

Quote from: madbluboy on August 31, 2020, 08:14:52 pm

You would hope the ADF wouldn't be working as Uber drivers on the side.

I remember raising a similar point about the ADF when it was revealed that the security guards were shagging the potentially infected return travellers. I suggested it wouldnt have happened if AFD staff were in charge and someone on here said something like "you dont know ADF staff very well"

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Reply #1291 – September 01, 2020, 07:46:57 am

Quote from: madbluboy on August 31, 2020, 08:14:52 pm

You would hope the ADF wouldn't be working as Uber drivers on the side.

I know an officer in the Army, he is not confident at all that soldiers wouldn't be found up to something on the side or boofing the guests!

In fact he thinks a some of them are trained and conditioned to find loopholes and escape routes, which they apply to the rules of engagement and conduct at every opportunity!

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Reply #1292 – September 01, 2020, 10:13:04 am

Quote from: Gointocarlton on August 31, 2020, 08:40:28 pm

I remember raising a similar point about the ADF when it was revealed that the security guards were shagging the potentially infected return travellers. I suggested it wouldnt have happened if AFD staff were in charge and someone on here said something like "you dont know ADF staff very well"

Yeah, I think that was David and me... military personnel have plenty of lotharios and left to their own devices would wreak havoc - wouldn't be a safe 'cavity' for miles. HOWEVER, the military personnel wouldn't be working for the security companies... big differentiation, they'd be working for military officers who would be far stricter, more organised, more strategic, more disciplined and without tolerance for -- in this case -- hotel guests going for 'food & grog' runs and military personnel 'engaging' with those they're guarding.

We've learnt a lot recently about how fckd security companies are in terms of discipline and trustworthiness... not to mention p1ss poor training. And someone must have been aware of how inept these pr1cks were before employing them, or should of at least investigated them to gain assurances as to their bona fides and reliability, especially considering how much was at stake.

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Reply #1293 – September 01, 2020, 11:22:09 am

Chain of command Baggers ... they were swarming in Orbost during our bushfires and they were ALL seriously good. Even my American wife was seriously impressed

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Reply #1294 – September 01, 2020, 11:57:08 am

Quote from: Baggers on September 01, 2020, 10:13:04 am

Yeah, I think that was David and me... military personnel have plenty of lotharios and left to their own devices would wreak havoc - wouldn't be a safe 'cavity' for miles. HOWEVER, the military personnel wouldn't be working for the security companies... big differentiation, they'd be working for military officers who would be far stricter, more organised, more strategic, more disciplined and without tolerance for -- in this case -- hotel guests going for 'food & grog' runs and military personnel 'engaging' with those they're guarding.

We've learnt a lot recently about how fckd security companies are in terms of discipline and trustworthiness... not to mention p1ss poor training. And someone must have been aware of how inept these pr1cks were before employing them, or should of at least investigated them to gain assurances as to their bona fides and reliability, especially considering how much was at stake.

Poor training is an understatement....my bro inlaw did pistol training as part of his job with some of these security blokes and one of them managed to shoot the instructor in the head accidently, lucky he survived but none of them are a threat to join mensa anytime soon.

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Reply #1295 – September 01, 2020, 11:58:30 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on September 01, 2020, 11:57:08 am

Poor training is an understatement....my bro inlaw did pistol training as part of his job with some of these security blokes and one of them managed to shoot the instructor in the head accidently, lucky he survived but none of them are a threat to join mensa anytime soon.

David Hookes would attest to that if were still with us.

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Reply #1296 – September 01, 2020, 12:09:58 pm

Quote from: capcom on September 01, 2020, 11:22:09 am

Chain of command Baggers ... they were swarming in Orbost during our bushfires and they were ALL seriously good. Even my American wife was seriously impressed

Spot on, CC and well summarised with those words - chain of command. There are times serious regimentation is exactly what is needed, people who take charge and take responsibility and are accountable. And don't take sh1te. It is a known fact in international military circles that the Aussies (and Kiwis) are among the best in the world.

I can't help myself... a little story from my military (R.A.N.) past. It's 1973, September (I remember the date clearly as the bloody Tiggers knocked us off in the GF) and we're on manoeuvres in Hawaii. It was us, HMAS Brisbane (a DDG class - guided missile destroyer), plus a Canadian surface ship, plus a Kiwi surface ship and one of our subs... might have been the Otway or Ovens. The Yanks were the other team and had about 7 surface ships (including an aircraft carrier) and a sub or two. Anyway, you pretend it's warfare and run around for a couple of days using electronic impact recordings which were silent, and then everything is tallied up at the end to see who got what. The Yanks reckon they wiped us all out... when the electronic 'hits' data came in, we'd wiped out every Yank ship before they got off one shot! We ended up being shouted some of the best food and drink at the officer's quarters at Pearl Harbour... what a feast and the Yanks were embarrassed but full of praise and really generous. A few of us had too much to drink and set about 'seducing' many of the American Naval Officer's wives - but that's another story for another day.

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Reply #1297 – September 01, 2020, 12:50:17 pm

Remember the a/c carrier Baggers?

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Reply #1298 – September 01, 2020, 01:34:23 pm

My father was in the forces and then police force for 30 years, as were many who returned form the war.

He'd tell you about the respect for his colleagues, and the respect you should hold them in, because the average person has no idea what they have to go through.

At the same time he would always warn to be alert of people in authority, not because they are any worse or any better than the general public, but because they have a privileged position that leads to unparalleled opportunity to bend the rules and just like the general public they aren't all above temptation. He said the biggest mistake you can make is an assumption.

Same applies to most forces and emergency services of any type.

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Reply #1299 – September 01, 2020, 02:14:35 pm

I used to work with a number of ex police officers. Let's just say that they looked after their own and were always 'open to opportunities '.

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Reply #1300 – September 01, 2020, 02:48:52 pm

Quote from: cookie2 on September 01, 2020, 02:14:35 pm

I used to work with a number of ex police officers. Let's just say that they looked after their own and were always 'open to opportunities '.

I suppose that is why they were ex!

There are two careers that are almost irresistible to wannabe crooks, lawyer and police officer!

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Reply #1301 – September 01, 2020, 04:18:09 pm

And right on cue:
From HS today
Drug use in Victorian-based military personnel revealed
More than 40 Victorian-based navy, army and air force members have tested positive to drugs in the past three years. More than half came from one branch but, unlike almost all their defence force colleagues, eight were able to keep their jobs.

Victorian-based navy personnel were more likely to be caught doing party drugs than their army or air force counterparts, with ecstasy being their substance of choice.

Results from the Australian Defence Force’s Prohibited Substance Testing Program obtained by a Freedom of Information request revealed 22 navy members tested positive to a drug test in the past three financial years.

Nineteen soldiers and two airmen also tested positive in that period.

Ecstasy was the most detected drug in sailors followed by cocaine. Army personnel results showed a higher use of amphetamines.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #1302 – September 01, 2020, 04:42:07 pm

Service personnel have been known to love a few drinks since Pontius was a pilot!

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Reply #1303 – September 01, 2020, 05:11:14 pm

Quote from: capcom on September 01, 2020, 12:50:17 pm

Remember the a/c carrier Baggers?

Sure do, USS Kitty Hawk. I also remember the refuelling ship USS Ponchatoula (had to look up Wiki to check the spelling!!!). A few of us hung out with blokes from the coast guard vessell USCGC Midgett.

Sheesh, your question sure did take me down memory lane, so much so I called a mate who served on the Brisbane with me (also a Sparker - communications) and he reminded me that when we were there an historic event took place in that the first Japanese military vessel berthed in Pearl Harbour since WW2... it was a submarine but neither of us could remember the name, only how much of an 'event' it was... not all the locals were happy!!!!

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Reply #1304 – September 01, 2020, 05:17:50 pm

Quote from: Gointocarlton on September 01, 2020, 04:18:09 pm

And right on cue:
From HS today
Drug use in Victorian-based military personnel revealed
More than 40 Victorian-based navy, army and air force members have tested positive to drugs in the past three years. More than half came from one branch but, unlike almost all their defence force colleagues, eight were able to keep their jobs.

Victorian-based navy personnel were more likely to be caught doing party drugs than their army or air force counterparts, with ecstasy being their substance of choice.

Results from the Australian Defence Force’s Prohibited Substance Testing Program obtained by a Freedom of Information request revealed 22 navy members tested positive to a drug test in the past three financial years.

Nineteen soldiers and two airmen also tested positive in that period.

Ecstasy was the most detected drug in sailors followed by cocaine. Army personnel results showed a higher use of amphetamines.

When considering the 1000s of military personnel who passed through Vic in the past 3 years that's a pretty low number, much lower than the % would be in the general public. You can be pretty sure that any who weren't caught by testing but were caught by other service personnel, stopped the habit - immediately.