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Reply #3375
SA to announce restrictions tomorrow because they have 3 cases in quarantine lol.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3376
It's a bed crapting exercise.

Across the nation.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3377
Greg Hunt being forced to order a review into the CSIRO and their involvement in the Wuhan Bat research along with some Aus Uni's.The CSIRO have been caught telling porkies about live bat's being used and Matt Canavan won't let it go in the Senate.
The idea that Aus taxpayer money has been used to assist these Chinese researchers in return for what I don't know and has been covered up is disgraceful.
Uni's here will sell their soul for the Chinese money so that doesn't surprise me they are involved.
Let's hope its not another sham like the Who investigation was in Wuhan.

Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

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Following two articles which appeared in The Australian on 25 June 2021 (CSIRO, unis in 10 joint research projects with Wuhan lab and Gain-of-function research risks), as the Chief Executive of Australia’s national science agency it is important your readers have the facts about the CSIRO and our research. Accusations around lack of transparency are both misinformed and offensive to the researchers who have worked to safeguard Australia for the last century.

Since the pandemic began, our researchers have worked tirelessly to help protect Australia. This has included pre-clinical testing of potential vaccines, tracking emerging variants of concern, monitoring wastewater to detect hotspots, and supporting domestic manufacturing and testing of surgical masks. This is in addition to our regular work protecting Australia from a host of other diseases like avian flu, zika, white spot prawn, and foot and mouth disease.

CSIRO has never shied away from talking about its research, including with bats. This research underpins much of our understanding of infectious diseases, and enabled us to help create a successful vaccine to treat Hendra virus. All our infectious disease research is conducted in line with strict ethical, biosecurity and regulatory requirements. All research is fully transparent and publicly available.
 
Our involvement in bat research was first raised by Ms Markson early last year. On 28 April 2020 I issued a statement (Statement from CSIRO regarding bat research) that acknowledged that research into bats underpins much of our understanding of zoonotic diseases, but that we don’t currently undertake research on live bats at the Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness (ACDP).

Like people, bats are mammals, except unlike people, bats can carry viruses like Ebola, rabies or SARS, without becoming sick. Understanding more about the immune system of bats, the viruses they may carry, and how these viruses affect them, holds huge potential for how we might be able to protect Australians.

Infectious diseases need a global response. CSIRO has worked with China, the US and other countries on bat research because bat viruses in Asia pose a threat to Australia. CSIRO also works with the US, Japan, Malaysia, France, Indonesia, India, the UK and PNG on a range of other infectious diseases. All of this is done to help protect Australians from potential future pandemics. The speed of the global response to COVID-19 has been attributed to excellent international scientific collaboration.

The ACDP is internationally recognised as a world class, global laboratory, and is one of Australia’s major defence systems against the increasing threat of infectious diseases. I am proud of the work that our teams at this facility do to keep Australians safe.

As the national science agency, we support the pursuit of knowledge, whether that be by scientists, the public or media, however this reporting is speculative and misleading. The Australian’s readers and our public deserve better.

Dr Larry Marshall
Chief Executive, CSIRO

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3378
Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.

Nothing to do with the science, all about the politics...just like the bug.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3379
Greg Hunt ordering an enquiry into CSIRO?  That's weird because Christian Porter is the responsible Minister ... but then, the report is in a Murdoch paper.

It's interesting to hear what CSIRO has to say:

I think that I will place my trust in CSIRO rather than the anti-science organs of the Oligarch.
Not really weird given Christian Porter might have a few more problems than the CSIRO's participation in live bat research with the Chinese with an issue of a legal nature hanging over his head.
The CSIRO issued a statement they didn't have any involvement in live bat research but later after being caught out lying the Chief Operating Officer had to admit it was true.
The answers provided to Senator Matt Canavan indicated involvement in the main with Hendra virus research but in fact the CSIRO had been involved in research with the infamous Bat lady since 2010 with the Covid virus. Of course all roads lead back to Anthony Fauci who supported gain of function research and didn't tell senior White House officials he was lifting the ban on that type of research.
Fauci in 2012 said that this type of research could cause a pandemic.. He wrote in the American society for Microbiology, he said the benefits outweighed the risks.
Given all that I think its reasonable to be skeptical and wanting some answers but I dont expect the truth to come out given all the politics involved.

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Reply #3380
This is all about politics and false flags pointing blame for the mismanagement of the pandemic.

Hard to believe anything News Ltd, you can cherry-pick your line in their rags because they flip from Covid-19 is a hoax to Covid-19 is weapons research in just a couple of pages.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3383
Singapore has vaccinated 86% of it's 5.7M population.

Politically it wants to convince other countries to open up now so that it doesn't suffer further economic damage, that is as mercenary as it gets!

But the concept of living with Sars-CoV-2 or some other variant makes sense, because it's endemic so it is not going away, just get vaccinated and we can all get mostly back to normal, but we might not get back to 100% normal ever so do not expect it.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3384
It's interesting to hear some social media and News Ltd spiel about banning research on gain of function, beating the drums to encourage throwing of rocks at Fauci.

I notice some of it coming from the USA and many ardent Pfizer boosters AZ denigrators, which seems a tad odd in that mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna are basically built out of gain of function research, while there competitors AZ and J&J are basically traditional. No gain of function probably no mRNA vaccines.

Ironic isn't it?

While here in Oz the right wing has even more ironically jumped into bed with Extinction Rebellion and Peta align politicians drumming up hysteria to point the finger at the mostly scientific left, with the sympathetic politicians seeing it as a backdoor to totally banning live animal research. Of course all this masks the ineptitude of the Federal government, they get there political false flag to blame somebody else for our circumstance. In the meantime I gather the crooked politicians won't divest themselves of shares in companies that import medicine and vaccine from China.

Australia is already just about the most heavily regulated bioresearch locality on the planet. We lose billion of dollar$ and hundreds of valuable researchers every year to OS destinations like the UK, Europe, China and the USA. Not due to funding as many suspect, but because our heavily regulated sector has failed to keep it's laws up to date with the ever increasing technology, globally we are seen as legal luddites which forces our researchers to move their research OS to allow it to continue. In fact if we updated the laws many of the big trusts would fund the research to continue here because it's cheaper than doing it in London or New York. No amount of money will fix it, and Scotty from Marketing hasn't that willpower to go against his Happy Clapping supporter base to move those laws.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3385
This is all about politics and false flags pointing blame for the mismanagement of the pandemic.

Hard to believe anything News Ltd, you can cherry-pick your line in their rags because they flip from Covid-19 is a hoax to Covid-19 is weapons research in just a couple of pages.
CSIRO lied in their statement and misled a senator when questioned... Not cherry picking
at all. Greg Hunt has been forced to order an enquiry. If the CSIRO have nothing to hide then it shouldn't be a problem...
The Who investigation into the Wuhan Labs was your political sham. They never asked or pushed the live bats being used or stored angle as they didn't want to upset the Who's no2 funding source in China.
That Bat woman is about as trustworthy as those worms they were feeding in those live bat's in the Video and the USA are trying to hide their own involvement and interest in what is chemical weapons research under the guise of scientific research.
However the Chinese fecked it up at that lab and we know the rest... Even their vaccine is a dud and doesn't work and was just a PR stunt. Their behaviour is deplorable with tariffs, trying to bully us economically and their sabre rattling antics need to be met head on. They need to be held to account and made to pay..



Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3386
Interesting development:
https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/singapores-surprising-new-plan-to-live-with-covid-revealed/news-story/52fa2c29252daeb4a3c634e1658f6901
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Vaccination first, then reduce restrictions
Vaccination was key. The road map out of the current measures couldn’t begin until more people had been jabbed.
Singapore is set to have given two-thirds of its residents at least one jab within weeks and to have two thirds fully vaccinated by early August.
Singapore has recorded some fully vaccinated locals getting Covid-19, but none of them have had serious symptoms.
Meanwhile, in Australia only 2.8% of the population has been fully vaccinated & 23.91% have had 1 dose (according to a graphic in The Age). For us to think about following Singapore’s lead without doing the work is like a 200 kg couch potato being inspired by the story of a long distance runner to enter a marathon tomorrow without any preparation.

Why has the “rollout” been so poor? Here’s Michelle Grattan’s take: View from the Hill: COVID battle on a knife edge, The Conversation.


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Reply #3387
Some wag referred to it as a "stroll out" rather than a roll out.


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Reply #3389
CSIRO lied in their statement and misled a senator when questioned... Not cherry picking
at all. Greg Hunt has been forced to order an enquiry. If the CSIRO have nothing to hide then it shouldn't be a problem...
The Who investigation into the Wuhan Labs was your political sham. They never asked or pushed the live bats being used or stored angle as they didn't want to upset the Who's no2 funding source in China.
That Bat woman is about as trustworthy as those worms they were feeding in those live bat's in the Video and the USA are trying to hide their own involvement and interest in what is chemical weapons research under the guise of scientific research.
However the Chinese fecked it up at that lab and we know the rest... Even their vaccine is a dud and doesn't work and was just a PR stunt. Their behaviour is deplorable with tariffs, trying to bully us economically and their sabre rattling antics need to be met head on. They need to be held to account and made to pay..

Sarah Henderson, another stooge of the Oligarch, is now calling for an enquiry into the CSIRO.  I'm not sure that she would be doing that if one had already been announced  :-\   And Christian Porter, the responsible Minister, has said nothing  ::)

This article has been overtaken by events (vaccine availability) and was published well before the WHO investigation but it does give a good account of the likely origins of COVID-19:

https://www.publish.csiro.au/ma/pdf/MA20013

There are very few organisations that I trust less than the Oligarch's media empire.  The CCP is one of them, but it's a close-run race.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball