Carlton Supporters Club

69 cases of TTS from 4.8M doses. That's pretty low risk IMO. Still limited information coming to us about pre existing illnesses, health status etc. of the unlucky 69. To my reading, those numbers don't indicate that we should forego the vaccine and choose a White King Frappe instead. There's definitely a risk, but there is with anything in life, even the Pfizer. It's a major problem IMO that big numbers of AZ doses are being wasted when way too many in developing countries don't have any vaccines at all.

69 cases of TTS from 4.8M doses. That's pretty low risk IMO. Still limited information coming to us about pre existing illnesses, health status etc. of the unlucky 69. To my reading, those numbers don't indicate that we should forego the vaccine and choose a White King Frappe instead. There's definitely a risk, but there is with anything in life, even the Pfizer. It's a major problem IMO that big numbers of AZ doses are being wasted when way too many in developing countries don't have any vaccines at all.

Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.

I don't know of anyone who's been turned away from receiving a jab and 25 million doses were ordered in April and May 2021.  So who is this Annandale dickhead?

Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.

...the woman had another very serious and recent underlying health condition, and UK authorities have ordered a post-mortem to assess whether this condition, along with the impact of long plane and car travel from Australia to the UK, had a role in her death...

Serious underlying health issues and boards a long haul flight after AZ vaccination!

Thats all fine as long as its not you or a loved one who lucks out....my daughters MIL has a clot behind her eye and is partially blind in that eye, she has been told no to any of the available vaccines by her specialist.

I agree. Nobody wants to admit it, but sometimes in life you get unlucky. I'd be pretty pissed if I or one of my loved ones was one of those 69, but not pissed with the science or the vaccines, just pissed with the firmament, and lucking out big time. The vaccines do way more good than harm, but no doubt there are casualties along the way. I wish it weren't the case.

Reminds me of arguments about compulsory seat belts. Opponents seized on the freak cases where someone not wearing a seat belt was thrown clear of a car that burst into flames after a crash to say that it should be up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.

Don't like to read that @ElwoodBlues1 ... worrying.  My best. 

Reminds me of arguments about compulsory seat belts. Opponents seized on the freak cases where someone not wearing a seat belt was thrown clear of a car that burst into flames after a crash to say that it should be up to each person to weigh the pros and cons.

My father wrapped his Valiant around a pole (Drivers side) in Brunswick Rd Brunswick just after I was born in 1967. If he was wearing a seatbelt he wouldn't have survived (they found him on the passenger side part of the bench seat). Never stopped him wearing one when it became compulsory.

Yep, 1970.  Sir Arthur Rylah and 1st country in the world to do it. 

Interesting bloke was Artie Rylah....I remember he was the one to allow Sunday Sport which everyone now takes for granted.
Did a lot of stuff people didnt like too but what he did escapes my memory as I was very young.