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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3810 –
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Yes, as a posted weeks ago I've been vaccinated.

I missed that post.

Which one did you get, AZ or Pfizer?
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson
 

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3811 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
I missed that post.

Which one did you get, AZ or Pfizer?
AZ was the only vaccine available in the country at the time I was vaccinated, there was no choice, and in any case I took the official recommendation and talked to my GP first who advised it makes no difference.

Interestingly, my GP mentioned just last week that all the vaccines now look like they'll need a booster at about 12 to 18 months after the first doses. When I asked him what happens if availability changes, because no doubt it will, he said it doesn't matter it can be whatever is available. He says the official position of no cross vaccination will eventually change because it's politically driven not health and science driven.

(I note as discussed with @ElwoodBlues1 above about Hep B, and like our common as muck Flu vaccines, many everyday vaccines are actually a blend of more than one type.)

But you may recall, I mentioned my GP volunteers(When I say volunteer, he is paid but freely chooses to do that work above his own commitments.) in Emergency Medicine at some big regional hospitals and has worked first hand in COVID ICU, without graphically stating it he thinks the non-vaccination alternative is unspeakable.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3812 –
Quote from: LP on
AZ was the only vaccine available in the country at the time I was vaccinated, there was no choice, and in any case I took the official recommendation and talked to my GP first who advised it makes no difference.

Interestingly, my GP mentioned just last week that all the vaccines now look like they'll need a booster at about 12 to 18 months after the first doses. When I asked him what happens if availability changes, because no doubt it will, he said it doesn't matter it can be whatever is available. He says the official position of no cross vaccination will eventually change because it's politically driven not health and science driven.

But you may recall, I mentioned my GP volunteers in Emergency Medicine at some big regional hospitals and has worked first hand in COVID ICU, without graphically stating it he thinks the non-vaccination alternative is unspeakable.

I did something similar with my doc. I explained to him that within an hour of my first AZ jab, I could feel the effects, especially in tender areas of my carcass, areas of mild arthritis. He explained that wasn't the vaccine directly but my immune system responding/kicking into action - a normal, healthy response.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3813 –
Quote from: Baggers on
I did something similar with my doc. I explained to him that within an hour of my first AZ jab, I could feel the effects, especially in tender areas of my carcass, areas of mild arthritis. He explained that wasn't the vaccine directly but my immune system responding/kicking into action - a normal, healthy response.
Yes, you can take comfort from that, because it means your own immune system is reacting. People who get no response at all are really left in a grey area about the vaccines usefulness for them, unless they eventually do an antibody test!

btw., I notice the UK is talking about rolling out antibody tests on a massive scale, the cheap swipe it on your tongue type, dribble on a stick type or diabetes like pin prick tests, that shows coloured lines like a pregnancy test. I think they are called lateral flow tests, or something like that. They want to find the people who are not yet protected by vaccination so they change try and things up for them.
The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3814 –
How did you go with it any side effects?

When I got my second Pfizer, 48 hours later I felt a bit dizzy, loss of appetite, a bit nauseous, a bit hot cold, not feverish, but like I was subject to one, and didnt sleep very soundly (thanks to hot cold).  Sore arm, all the way up to the shoulder.

The nurse told me that they still arent sure how people of different genetic diversity will respond and that they are working hard to capture this information.


I got mine more out of duty to the workplace, and public than anything else.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3815 –
Nice line in an article in The Monthly underneath pictures of Gladys and SloMo:
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The woman who refused to learn from the past and the man who failed to plan for the future.
Unfortunately, I can’t find the article to make sure I got the quote 100% right.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3816 –
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How did you go with it any side effects?
For me I only had some localised swelling, perhaps I had some sore joints a few days later like a flu shot but at my age I get that anyway from any number of causes so how could I tell what caused it? I can't report any specific side effects other than the swelling without them being classed subjective.

My wife got some chills, and the next day had a few aches and pains again similar to the flu shot. She was a bit fatigued but she worries about that stuff, too much doom scrolling, so is it the shot or is it keeping herself awake worrying about it?

I've a colleague who has been on and off work after getting his shot, he claims it's the vaccine but I don't know which one he got, except that his symptoms started after he had a cardiac stress test and nearly fainted. He suffers from very low heart rate. It turns out the poor bastard, they got the stress test wrong the first time they did it and made him do it again a few minutes later, two in a row inside an hour, then after he got nausea and nearly fainted so they told him his feeling unwell wasn't normal it must be the vaccine. So now he thinks it's the vaccine and not their stuff up! :o
The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3818 –
Gladys is slowly and softly lowering NSW into the pit hell by a rope, while at the same time claiming that she's trying to save them.

Scotty, I have no idea what Scotty is doing, primarily because it seems on close inspection he is doing nothing at all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz40vwcTGFo
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3819 –
Thanks Paul

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3821 –
It'll be interesting to see how many people get their 2nd shots on some modified schedule other than the official schedule.

It turns out most of those timings are merely recommendations and not hard rules, 12 weeks, 6 weeks, 4 weeks whatever you've had or been told is not global or universal. It seems beyond about 4 weeks it is perhaps more about managing availability of the vaccine, than the efficacy of the treatment regime.

I do know it takes about 4 weeks for Antibodies or Killer-t cells to form, so about 4 weeks is the minimum.

An interesting thought, if the bulk of the population get vaccinated and someone doesn't, where does that leave them if the rest of the population can still be infected and transmissive without any obvious symptoms? I think this is where the Preppers will claim they should have already prepared the bomb shelter, because they are left surrounded by the Zombie masses!
The Force Awakens!

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3822 –
I got my second AZ jab today (actually it was yesterday).  Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), lockdown caused a rush at the old Ford factory and there was a queue snaking around the carpark. 

Folk like me who were getting their second AZ jab were called to a separate queue.  Although our queue was much shorter than the Pfizer queue, it moved at snail's pace and the Pfizer folk were getting done quickly.  Anyway, I got out of there an hour and a half after my scheduled appointment and that's not really worth complaining about in the overall scheme of things.

It was interesting to read Barwon Health posters confirming what my perusal of the scientific literature and the raw data indicate; there's virtually no difference between the efficacy and risks of AZ and Pfizer ... but that horse has bolted through the Government's inept handling.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #3824 –
Wow! Gladys' idea of tougher restrictions is asking people to "do x y an z if they can please" (ie a half pregnant lockdown). She has also shut down the construction industry which should cause some anarchy amongst the militant construction unions.
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