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Reply #4350 –
Quote from: Mav on
I'd also like to ask Dr Nick why he singles out Victoria. In what way are the Govts (and their advisors) in SA, Qld, & WA more relaxed about living with Covid? I would have thought WA is just about the most extreme. The fact he tries to limit his attack to 1 State suggests he's following military doctrine of not opening up wars on multiple fronts. Trying to otherise 1 State is pretty shabby from a public health advocate.
Lots of politics going on here, is this something to do with Canberra being stuck in the middle of NSW?
 
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Reply #4351 –
Quote from: LP on
Lots of politics going on here, is this something to do with Canberra being stuck in the middle of NSW?
 
Bit like the cricket, its easier to get a game in the test team if you play for NSW....of course Dangerous Dan being hardcore Labor doesnt help either and you have ScoMo looking after his Liberal lacky in Gladys..
 

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Moves against Berejiklian tomorrow ...

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Reply #4354 –
Don't think New South Wales folk are as forgiving as Victorians.  Lord of the flies moment.

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Reply #4356 –
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Sobering data from Iceland: Iceland deals with growing Delta outbreak as high vaccination rates stop deaths, News.com.au.
For a small nation Iceland have a very good and modern free health care system. Family friend did a teacher exchange position for 12 months there and said its a very well run country.

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Reply #4357 –
Quote from: Mav on
Sobering data from Iceland: Iceland deals with growing Delta outbreak as high vaccination rates stop deaths, News.com.au.

Terrific article, thank you Wing Man MAV, very real important information can be easily gleaned from what is happening there.

I've had the thought for a while now that masks will become a part of our lives for some time to come. The apparent dramatic reduction in seasonal the flu suggests the effectiveness of masks and social distancing.

I think most of us know that the vaccinations won't have an enormous impact on transmissiblility (but masks/distancing etc., do) but do have an important impact on severity of symptoms once infected - this was my primary reason for getting vaccinated, to lessen symptoms therefore aiding me to remain working and not ending up a burden on the hospital system.
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The worst of this crap show is yet to come.  Irrespective of vaccinations.
"everything you know is wrong"

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Reply #4359 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
The worst of this crap show is yet to come.  Irrespective of vaccinations.
Yes no doubt, the issues of long COVID-19 are really just starting, the need for effective treatments should be a priority but it is not getting the political attention it needs. Long COVID-19 has no age barriers.

The two sets of interviews below are worth listening to, they are interviews of doctors in the UK who also happen to be COVID-19 patients, a bit dark in spots but they also have some very positive moments. Twenty somethings should be listening to these stories.

Science Friction Podcast.
The long COVID doctors (Part 1 of 2) (35mins)
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/sciencefriction/long-covid-doctors-patients-uk-symptoms-coronavirus-pandemic/13467564

The long COVID doctors (Part 2 of 2) (32mins)
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/sciencefriction/long-covid-doctors-a-year-on-uk-symptoms-coronavirus-pandemic/13477284
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4360 –
Quote from: Thryleon on
The worst of this crap show is yet to come.  Irrespective of vaccinations.

Yep, even with a vaccinated population life isnt going back to normal anytime soon ,as Iceland shows you can still have a lot of sick people in Hospital even if you get low death rates leading to a strain on resources. Opening up Australia for travel etc is still a long way off imho...

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For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.
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Reply #4362 –
Quote from: LP on
For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.
AZ are taking profits when the pandemic is under control....

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Reply #4363 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
AZ are taking profits when the pandemic is under control....
I think they publicly stated they "Reserved the right to take profits once the pandemic was under control", but it's a bit meaningless in the context of what is happening now.

Money is motive$ ;D
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4364 –
Quote from: LP on
For those of you who wonder why the political and social media war of words relating to efficacy and safety or AZ vs Pfizer, despite there being much evidence for better or safer performance form one or the other.

Pfizer / Moderna reported $9.6B profit for the year just finished.

Pfizer forecast $26B for the coming financial year, then after the various social media and political AZ backlash, Pfizer revised the forecast to $45.6B!

AZ do the vaccine at cost.
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