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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4425
Greed comes to the forefront again.  People waiting for a possible $300 handout (thanks Albanese for sowing that seed of uncertainty you idiot) and those that simply won't accept a vaccine.  Dumb as.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4426
The NSW premier just said even if they had 80% vaccination we would still have restrictions with 400 cases a day.
We are going to be locked up for a long time.
NSW are in all sorts of shizen, her announcement is about softening the coming blows, within the next week or two there is a better than 50/50 chance they'll be wishing they still had only 400 a day!

I heard a Sydney based Doc on the radio today saying the metro ICU's are just about cooked, not just because of patient numbers, but because they have so so many staff unavailable in isolation, with the remainder working OT double and triple shifts. He said it can't continue, and if the public don't break from it's hell bent track then the health system will break!

It's quite hard to get hold of confirmed NSW stats, I have no idea why, they seem to guard everything making it very hard to cross check those claims!

This is exactly a consequence of not locking down early enough or hard enough, and as a result the @Thryleon predictions about things getting much much worse for the health sector before they get better will likely come true!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4427
NSW are in all sorts of shizen, her announcement is about softening the coming blows, within the next week or two there is a better than 50/50 chance they'll be wishing they still had only 400 a day!

I heard a Sydney based Doc on the radio today saying the metro ICU's are just about cooked, not just because of patient numbers, but because they have so so many staff unavailable in isolation, with the remainder working OT double and triple shifts. He said it can't continue, and if the public don't break from it's hell bent track then the health system will break!

It's quite hard to get hold of confirmed NSW stats, I have no idea why, they seem to guard everything making it very hard to cross check those claims!

This is exactly a consequence of not locking down early enough or hard enough, and as a result the @Thryleon predictions about things getting much much worse for the health sector before they get better will likely come true!
Thry is right about getting worse, Frankston Hospital had a lot of staff infected last year at the peak and had to go on bypass, close wards etc but those stats wont make the news, same this year with Western health at Sunshine Footscray as I remarked before.
One of the problems with ICU staff is they take a while to train up, you just cant pick nurses up off any ward and dump them in ICU and expect them to do the job properly...you can have the beds and equipment but you get staff sick/infected and then you dont have many backups in those specialty areas.
Pandemics quickly highlight the gaps in the healthcare system and the lack of resources, State Premier's and the Fed Government need to fund the building of more hospitals, train and pay specialist staff properly and stop relying on the good nature of these caregivers to save the day. Ditto for Paramedics....they found money to increase the drug testing of these life savers but cant be bothered fixing the problems in the system which lead to the mental breakdowns and staff leaving the job..

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4428
McGowan is determined to isolate WA.  Lot of tit for tat at the moment.  But is this gets outta hand in remote western NSW communities, Berejiklian will really have a problem.

And she knows it.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4429
Thry is right about getting worse, Frankston Hospital had a lot of staff infected last year at the peak and had to go on bypass, close wards etc but those stats wont make the news, same this year with Western health at Sunshine Footscray as I remarked before.
I saw a news item about that after your post, so were 100% on the money. Sadly, that gives credibility to your other observations.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4430
I saw a news item about that after your post, so were 100% on the money. Sadly, that gives credibility to your other observations.
It is sad the people who staff our hospitals are some of the best in the world but funding and administration of the system is crippled by politics, unfortunately the poorer areas in the West in both Melbourne and Sydney get the scraps,  yet are usually the ones with the highest need and in this case the area with the highest infections rates and lowest take up of vaccinations.
You then get these party pub crawl fwits who want to defy the law, create more infections and drain more resources....same drunk clowns beat up on paramedics, attack nurses then they leave the system or turn to addictive solutions.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4431
If we'd have slapped on $5000 fines from day one, the message might have got through to most of these bastards.  Just like we should at airports with lying foreigners on Border control.


Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4432
If we'd have slapped on $5000 fines from day one, the message might have got through to most of these bastards.  Just like we should at airports with lying foreigners on Border control.


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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4434
Thry is right about getting worse, Frankston Hospital had a lot of staff infected last year at the peak and had to go on bypass, close wards etc but those stats wont make the news, same this year with Western health at Sunshine Footscray as I remarked before.
One of the problems with ICU staff is they take a while to train up, you just cant pick nurses up off any ward and dump them in ICU and expect them to do the job properly...you can have the beds and equipment but you get staff sick/infected and then you dont have many backups in those specialty areas.
Pandemics quickly highlight the gaps in the healthcare system and the lack of resources, State Premier's and the Fed Government need to fund the building of more hospitals, train and pay specialist staff properly and stop relying on the good nature of these caregivers to save the day. Ditto for Paramedics....they found money to increase the drug testing of these life savers but cant be bothered fixing the problems in the system which lead to the mental breakdowns and staff leaving the job..

I spoke to a bloke at work today which i've known for years, but only see occasionally. He had Covid. He said it took him 5 months to actually get over. No hospital stay required, but knocked him about pretty bad. He'd be late 40's and in decent shape.

He caught it from his wife who is a nurse....and caught it with plenty of other people through contact with Covid positive patients.
I'm not sure what hospital his wife works at but he works out of bayswater and i know he's further out of the CBD than that. Chances are, she works at Frankston hospital. Plenty of nurses and doctors got it at the same time.

I remember reading such stuff on here, but i don't recall hearing about it in the media.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4435
I spoke to a bloke at work today which i've known for years, but only see occasionally. He had Covid. He said it took him 5 months to actually get over. No hospital stay required, but knocked him about pretty bad. He'd be late 40's and in decent shape.

He caught it from his wife who is a nurse....and caught it with plenty of other people through contact with Covid positive patients.
I'm not sure what hospital his wife works at but he works out of bayswater and i know he's further out of the CBD than that. Chances are, she works at Frankston hospital. Plenty of nurses and doctors got it at the same time.

I remember reading such stuff on here, but i don't recall hearing about it in the media.
Yep, a lot of stuff doesnt make the media, my daughter lives out West and doesnt even bother with Sunshine Hospital, goes straight into the City for the Royal Womens or Royal Melbourne.
She wants to start a family next year but isnt happy with being in the Sunshine hospital zone and wants to move....its not the Hospital as such it just the lack of staff and overcrowding in ER etc. One Public Hospital serving such a large growing area is a disgrace and when the ER is full you have a mile long line of people waiting.
Its like the Police where she lives...you make a call after 8pm and they arrive half an hour later as there is no local manned station after a certain time.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4436
Yep, a lot of stuff doesnt make the media, my daughter lives out West and doesnt even bother with Sunshine Hospital, goes straight into the City for the Royal Womens or Royal Melbourne.
She wants to start a family next year but isnt happy with being in the Sunshine hospital zone and wants to move....its not the Hospital as such it just the lack of staff and overcrowding in ER etc. One Public Hospital serving such a large growing area is a disgrace and when the ER is full you have a mile long line of people waiting.
Its like the Police where she lives...you make a call after 8pm and they arrive half an hour later as there is no local manned station after a certain time.

Well said, EB1.

Disgrace is a good and appropriate word.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4437
Well it’s 3:30 am and I can’t sleep, just pondering zero covid, the new lockdown and curfew, the latest world events and wondering where all of this stuff is leading us. A lot seems to rest on the vaccination program.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4438
Well it’s 3:30 am and I can’t sleep, just pondering zero covid, the new lockdown and curfew, the latest world events and wondering where all of this stuff is leading us. A lot seems to rest on the vaccination program.

Israel thought that at one time. Now it's booster shots. We do live in interesting times.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #4439
Well it’s 3:30 am and I can’t sleep, just pondering zero covid, the new lockdown and curfew, the latest world events and wondering where all of this stuff is leading us. A lot seems to rest on the vaccination program.
It's not healthy to think about these things at 3am, I know I do it too!

In fairness to the experts, I'm not sure I've ever heard a real expert claim extinction is a possibility, at least as things stand at the moment. In fact I'd say experts now state the exact opposite, extinction is impossible. The real experts called for early action, some of the experts have been calling for preparative action for almost two decades, and politicians vacillated, then when the virus hit and spread when it was way too late to go for extinction, long after the virus had become endemic and part of our genome, the politicians then called for extinction, ironic isn't the right word!

Zero COVID will be learning to live with Sars-CoV_2, and the next version of Sars, learning to manage them and it, Sars, Sars-CoV-2 and the next are now part of our evolution! After all, it seems much of our very DNA is a collection of virus fragments.

We hate lockdowns, but the lockdowns aren't about extinction, they buy time, time needed by experts to make sure our loved ones are not the price paid for the freedom of everyone!
The Force Awakens!