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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5310 –


Quote from: DJC on
I have to ask, where did your 99% figure come from?  I don't think it's based on any of the scientific modelling. 

There's more chance of getting COVID by getting together with folk in someone's home.  The chances of getting COVID by shopping in a supermarket while wearing a mask and social distancing are pretty low but checking in with the QR code means that you'll be tracked if you're exposed. 

The chances of getting COVID by taking part in protest/riot and not wearing a mask and/or social distancing may not be high but, because no-one knows who was there and the participants are unlikely to be tested, we won't know whether it was a super-spreader event until folk are in ICU or are found dead at home. 

Considering there are hundreds (not an assumption, Brett Sutton's words) of exposure sites including homes and workplaces that are not publicly listed  yes the protests are less than 1%.


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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5311 –
Quote from: madbluboy on

Considering there are hundreds (not an assumption, Brett Sutton's words) of exposure sites including homes and workplaces that are not publicly listed  yes the protests are less than 1%.
Not all exposures are equal.

Although any incidents can cause a transmission, walking past someone at arms length in a sparsely populated supermarket is not the same as standing shoulder to shoulder packed in together screaming at the police for 2 hrs. That's pretty obvious!

Of course what happens next is important too, if you get in a car alone and go straight home and isolate, or if you hop on a tram or train ignoring social distancing and mask rules.

All incidents are reported as an exposure site, but it's obvious all are not equal!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5312 –


The funniest part is I have been accused by the lefties on here of questioning scientific minds and their modelling (which I didn't) but only one poster on here puts up their own modelling and they never question him.

Oh wait is LP the scientific mind I shouldn't be questioning?

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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5313 –
Quote from: madbluboy on

The funniest part is I have been accused by the lefties on here of questioning scientific minds and their modelling (which I didn't) but only one poster on here puts up their own modelling and they never question him.

Oh wait is LP the scientific mind I shouldn't be questioning?
I'm not sure you need science to tell the difference between those events, can I ask why you specifically believe all exposure sites are equal?

Have we had a supermarket based super spreader event yet?

Most commercial retail have had density caps and new ventilation guidelines they have to follow, and have been doing so for more than a year now, so do schools now. The two main events from schools that have caused super-spreading are because they largely ignored social distancing guidelines and packed too many students and staff into confined poorly ventilated spaces for an event.

Of course limiting the spread all only works if everyone obey the basic rules, ........... Doh!
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5314 –
Quote from: LP on
I'm not sure you need science to tell the difference between those events, can I ask why you specifically believe all exposure sites are equal?

No. Indoors is worse than outdoors.

That's why we are allowed to catch up in parks but not homes. Unless you are holding up an anti Dan sign then it's dangerous.
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Reply #5315 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
No. Indoors is worse than outdoors.

That's why we are allowed to catch up in parks but not homes. Unless you are holding up an anti Dan sign then it's dangerous.
While obeying social distancing rules and still wearing your mask, it's pretty obvious.

They were mostly protesting Setka weren't they, at least I think that is what the non-Murdoch news showed me?

They are free to protest and conduct themselves as they like, they don't get shot for protesting like in China. I suppose it's why we don't randomly walk through parks attacking young picnicking families who are wearing their masks while getting the kids some outdoor time, we don't want to be hypocrites! ;)
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5316 –
Tarring every protester with that brush is like saying every cop is like that coward who walked up behind that guy and slam tackled his head into the ground.

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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5317 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Tarring every protester with that brush is like saying every cop is like that coward who walked up behind that guy and slam tackled his head into the ground.



Was that one of the guys who put a cop in the hospital first?

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5318 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Was that one of the guys who put a cop in the hospital first?


No and he didn't have a knife either that Dan's Facebook army tried to pretend.

The cop was suspended. If you or I did it we would be serving prison time.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

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Young men who were at the rally on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday are now being picked up in rapid tests as they are taken to hospital, the Herald Sun reports.
https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/australia-covid-news-live-lockdown-restrictions-cases-and-vaccinations/news-story/379c7b11ac05da50fcfd8c5dfc3c9090

That qualifies as an admission against interest by Murdoch.

Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5320 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
The cop was suspended.
A police officer or other public official being suspended as part of an investigation is procedural, part of the investigation routine, and it means nothing in terms of guilt or innocence, but the media like to imply that it means guilt.
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5321 –
Quote from: Mav on
That qualifies as an admission against interest by Murdoch.
There is some considerable irony in workers falling in line behind the opinions of the hard right, commentators like Credlin, Jones, Bolt, Panahi and Murdoch Media, now it seems when times suit the defenders of the working class people! :o

To borrow a phrase from @madbluboy‍;

Wapping happened! ;D
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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5322 –
And the left using a wife beating scumbag like Setka to preach about how to behave.

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Re: CV and mad panic behaviour

Reply #5324 –
I agree the suspension doesn't mean guilt. But the policeman who slam-tackled that guy would need to have a pretty good reason for doing that if he's to avoid being found guilty. If the concern was that he was armed or in other ways dangerous to apprehend in a less violent fashion, maybe this is one of those situations in which a taser may have been less injurious.

I am tickled the tackle evoked much pearl-clutching from right-wingers though. They're quite happy to see a bit of retribution or "attitude adjustment" inflicted on leftwing protesters, e.g. BLM protesters.  But when it's one of their own "freedom fighters", the strongarm tactics they love to see police use are suddenly inhumane. As always, this is best exemplified by Trump and his disciples. Trump even encouraged the police to slam the heads of suspects into police cars as they were loading them in, telling the police they were being too nice to them. And the Trumpists were incensed that the police opposed their insurrection (although in truth they were much less muscular than they would have been if it had been a mob of leftwing protesters trying to storm the Capitol). One insurrectionist shot and killed by a Capitol police officer as she was trying to break through into the Capitol building was so much worse than the series of shootings of blacks by police.